Did you read it? Nowhere in the blog does it suggest the land was acquired illegally in the lead up to 1948. My reading of actual historians shows that many average Joe Palestinian farmers were kept ignorant of Ottoman law changes and instead the wealthy Arabs gained legal title to the land. Some of that land was later sold to Jews who expected the previous tenants to leave. The wealthy Arabs then turned around and steered their former tenants anger towards the new land owners instead of the rich guys who profited in the first place.
More Israeli douchbaggery....
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So I see you changed the topic from the two way flow of refugees from Israel into Arab lands and from Arab lands into Israel. Is that because you have nothing sensible to add to the discussion?How much has Germany....
And as you likely know, Israel has included compensation for every Palestinian cared for by UNRWA as part of every peace talks.
How dare you try and distract from the topic?Blacks were brought to the US as slaves, so how dare you equate their situation with the Jews. ....
Jews in the late 19th and early 20th century were legal immigrants who legally bought property yet you see it as okay for them to be lynched. Blacks in the Southern US still face the same issue when moving into some traditionally white neighbourhoods. Do you also justify whites attacking blacks because of it?
And if you actually cared about history, the first major attacks incited against Jews in the early 20th century went after the 1000+ year old religious (non-zionist) Jewish communities in Hebron and Jerusalem. Nothing to do with immigration.
Try reading some history. Haganah was formed AFTER organized attacks on Jews began in 1919/1920. The terror group offshoots began AFTER the Arab riots in 1929....
"The Jewish community had anticipated the Arab reaction....
Posting that after being attacked Jews tried to defend themselves should be a criticism on the original attackers (Arabs), not the people who did the reasonable thing by defending themselves. (Since notty repeatedly likes throwing Nazi Germany into the discussion) Do you really expect the Jews to peacefully board those trains again?
See how quickly notty jumped arguments? First he conflates the Palestinians with the Roman Empire (fighting Jews who 'deserve' to be attacked). Then he say Israel is like the Roman Empire. Does he ever wonder why people don't take him seriously.Sure, except in the long run, the numbers are with the Palis.....as they were with the enemies of Rome eventually.
All of which stared with Arab states refusing to accept Israel existing as a place where Jews had full rights....You mean all the wars in the last 5 decades never happened?....
His usual conspiracy shit. Hamas is a Jewish conspiracy.PA did ask for Israeli help to wipe out Hamas, they refused.....and now Hamas is entrenched in Gaza, exactly what some factions in Israel want.
And you complain when modern terrorists have their houses confiscated or are shot in the commission of their crimes....They were put to death in especially cruel manners to punish them for the way they conducted battle.
For someone who thinks that you sure make an inordinate number of posts about the way Israel conducts war (or deals with terror or its very existence).I am not really to troubled by what happens in war....
So when people see their loved ones butchered while praying you expect the to just accept it?So when people see their loved ones killed by Israelis, you expect them to just accept it? ...
If Israel had your (lack of) morals, they would have killed or evicted every Arab from the region. Israel refuses to stoop to the levels despite their enemies such as Hamas openly stating that is their goal.
Wow. 25,000 rounds and only 1,200 dead. If Israel was in fact trying to kill civilians, they really did a poor job..... When someone fires 25,000 155mm rounds into an urban area, ...
No I am sorry I don't believe it. Israel clearly engages in collective punishment. When they attack Gaza they hope to reduce support for Hamas by causing harm to civilians and destruction to their property. Gaza is a small area, you cannot expect to unleash that kind of firepower and not do massive damage and kill a lot of innocent people. You mat believe Israels lies, I think both sides are lying pieces of shit.Wrong again.
Israel goes out of its way to try to prevent civilian casualties.
Hamas is looking for civilian casualties, including using human shields to try to jack up the number of Palestinian casualties.
Do you understand the difference?
Wow. 25,000 rounds and only 1,200 dead. If Israel was in fact trying to kill civilians, they really did a poor job.
I wonder if you would feel the same if your mothers brains were splattered all over your face..... Israel knows roughly at what rate it can kill Palis to keep international outrage at a simmer and not outright rage. The goal is to inflict collective punishment by spreading the casualties around. They killed a very similar number of people when they last attacked Lebanon.
Hamas has acknowledged that Israel tells people when an area is going to be attacked, and that it has encouraged people to ignore the warnings.No I am sorry I don't believe it. Israel clearly engages in collective punishment. When they attack Gaza they hope to reduce support for Hamas by causing harm to civilians and destruction to their property. Gaza is a small area, you cannot expect to unleash that kind of firepower and not do massive damage and kill a lot of innocent people. You mat believe Israels lies, I think both sides are lying pieces of shit.
Furthermore, Israel's military capacity far surpasses Hamas's. If Israel were deliberately looking to kill civilians, the death count would be significantly higher than it is.
You have shown a repeated pattern of choosing not to believe facts that don't conform with what you want to believe. They remain facts, nonetheless.
Drinking early tonight? It was Israel who confirmed they've made use of Palestinian human shields an almost daily occurance. You've got it in black and white. Right from the weasel's mouth. Don't run away. 1200 times in violation of international law.That's funny. I have read other posts on TERB that claimed the overwhelming majority of people who were killed were Palestinians, not Israelis.
Who was it who posted those stats?
Oh, yes, now I remember ... it was Gryfin.
Assuming Gryfin's death counts are accurate, the claim that Israel is using human shields is clearly bogus.
Every informed person knows that what I posted was accurate. Frankly, your feeble attempts to defend Jew-hating terrorism are appalling.
The cowardice of Israeli soldiers is mind boggling isn't it? Using Palestinian men, women, and children as human shields. Over 1000 times.
Try again.
In your own bizarre way, you have further proven my point.Drinking early tonight? It was Israel who confirmed they've made use of Palestinian human shields an almost daily occurance. You've got it in black and white. Right from the weasel's mouth. Don't run away. 1200 times in violation of international law.
The cowardice of Israeli soldiers is mind boggling isn't it? Using Palestinian men, women, and children as human shields. Over 1000 times.
Try again.
Whatever you may have thought of its merits, the "neighbour procedure" that was the subject of the 2005 high court ruling was a tactic that was designed to save lives -- of both Israelis and Palestinians.
It was used to try to defuse situations where terrorists had barricaded themselves inside buildings by having a neighbour that supported the goal of ending the standoff try to talk the terrorist into ending the barricade. The goal was to try to end the situation with no loss of life, including the life of the barricaded terrorist.
In fact, in the one civilian death that did occur, the person killed was wearing a bullet-proof vest that had been provided by the Israelis.
By contrast, Hamas uses human shields to try to increase its number of civilian casualties.
That's not really the same thing, is it?
Israel tries to prevent civilians from being killed. Hamas seeks to increase the number of civilian casualties. That's the difference.
In your own bizarre way, you have further proven my point.
Whatever you may have thought of its merits, the "neighbour procedure" that was the subject of the 2005 high court ruling was a tactic that was designed to save lives -- of both Israelis and Palestinians.
It was used to try to defuse situations where terrorists had barricaded themselves inside buildings by having a neighbour that supported the goal of ending the standoff try to talk the terrorist into ending the barricade. The goal was to try to end the situation with no loss of life, including the life of the barricaded terrorist.
In fact, in the one civilian death that did occur, the person killed was wearing a bullet-proof vest that had been provided by the Israelis.
By contrast, Hamas uses human shields to try to increase its number of civilian casualties.
That's not really the same thing, is it?
Israel tries to prevent civilians from being killed. Hamas seeks to increase the number of civilian casualties. That's the difference.
How was Hamas using palestinians as human shield again?
You forget to mention how many were woundedWow. 25,000 rounds and only 1,200 dead. If Israel was in fact trying to kill civilians, they really did a poor job.
Of course Israel could kill more Palis, and they would like to. But politically they cannot. What they do is punish the Palis collectively. They do not always warn. They do so sometime for the purpose of optics. Also, people sometimes stay on the roof because their house is all they have. And Israel still kills them all while watching clear as day from a drone. In cold blood.Hamas has acknowledged that Israel tells people when an area is going to be attacked, and that it has encouraged people to ignore the warnings.
Furthermore, Israel's military capacity far surpasses Hamas's. If Israel were deliberately looking to kill civilians, the death count would be significantly higher than it is.
You have shown a repeated pattern of choosing not to believe facts that don't conform with what you want to believe. They remain facts, nonetheless.
Here is one case where 6 members of a family including 3 children 12, 7 and 1 were murdered by Israel examined in great detail, with an opinion by a Jewish author:
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...acks-lethal-warnings-2014713162312604305.html
conclusion - ISRAELI DOUCHBAGGERY!!!!!
He concludes the warnings are just an attempt to indemnify them from war crimes. In this case they blew up a families home with no involvement in Hamas or any weapons in the house. Maybe they sent a Hallmark card - OOPS SO SORRY WE BLEW UP YOUR HOUSE AND KILLED YOUR CHILDREN - The IDF. (because the best D is A)
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/op...acks-lethal-warnings-2014713162312604305.html
conclusion - ISRAELI DOUCHBAGGERY!!!!!
He concludes the warnings are just an attempt to indemnify them from war crimes. In this case they blew up a families home with no involvement in Hamas or any weapons in the house. Maybe they sent a Hallmark card - OOPS SO SORRY WE BLEW UP YOUR HOUSE AND KILLED YOUR CHILDREN - The IDF. (because the best D is A)
