Sure, except in the long run, the numbers are with the Palis.....as they were with the enemies of Rome eventually.
More Israeli douchbaggery....
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No that is just one example, are you saying Israel has been conflict free since then? You mean all the wars in the last 5 decades never happened? You think killing 1200 innocent civilians in Palestine and thousands of others since the formation of Israel never happened...did you take a look at the link I posted of all Jewish terror attacks in the middle east? Also when you look at linkages between WW1 and WWII the Jews in the middle east, in particular the Aaron Aaronson spy ring played a big part in the defeat of the Turks and Germans in the middle east. Now, of course they were correct to do so, and I admire their courage and resourcefulness in doing so, but that kinda action creates enemies.
PA did ask for Israeli help to wipe out Hamas, they refused.....and now Hamas is entrenched in Gaza, exactly what some factions in Israel want.
First they are terrorists and deserve to be 'liquidated'... then they are war heros, and in the process of becoming such should expect to be hated.
Get your head on straight.
Of course.
They have a boogie man to point to, to justify stealing Palestinian land.
They are soldiers and terrorists depending on which side they are fighting on, that is the point. Terrorists are just a made up word. The Jews were fighting on the side of the British as they felt it was the best way they could get a homeland. That is pretty much it. The British and triple entente powers were fighting for money. In fact the Ottoman empire in the middle east was referred quite openly as the "great loot". The problem is, by siding with the British against the Germans, they made it very dangerous to be Jewish in Germany. The Jewish terrorists I referred to as being liquidated were in the era of the Roman Empire.. so get your dates straight or don't try and follow this thread while you are drinking. If you do some reading about the wars between Jewish rebels and the Romans, it is pretty fascinating and incredibly brutal as was typical of the time.
You really don't know when to quit.
Here's the original conspiracy theory you posted that claimed the Arabs may have attacked the Jews to thwart a secret Jewish military offensive.
But your latest source -- the one you tried to use to defend that statement -- says no such thing. In fact, it clearly says the Jews were focused on self-defence. There is nothing in your source that points to Jewish plans to launch a proactive attack.
Even worse, your own source is quite clear about the reasons for the Arab attacks.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/riots29.html
Your own source makes it quite clear that el-Husseini's goal was to "terrorize" the Jews and run them off the land, not to defend Arabs from any military build-up.
Don't be a "coward." Acknowledge that Jew hatred is at the heart of the dispute.
I know, tool.
You are comparing Adam & Eve to space exploration. Please try and be consistent, you cannot use details that are over 2000 years old to justify actions that are happening now.
Aaaannndd... if their 'brutal' actions were 'typical of the time', what is the big deal? If they were 'typical', then everyone else was doing it and they were just doing what everyone else was doing, so they really are only 'brutal' to us looking back on them. Their contemporaries should have been fine with their actions, because they were 'typical of the time'. And modern society shouldn't hold those actions against them, because 'everyone was doing it'.
Sure, except the pali stone throwers were attacking their big dog, the Israeli soldiers, they may get bit.
They put themselves in harm's way which by your logic absolves the Israeli soldiers of any wrongdoing.
Isn't the historical existence of ancient Isreal in that area a major cornerstone to Israels claim to existence? oops. I was not using the acts of that era I was relying on acts committed during the gestation of modern Isreal. No the contemporaries were not "fine" with them. They were put to death in especially cruel manners to punish them for the way they conducted battle.
I am not really to troubled by what happens in war. I have already said that. I only point out the hypocrisy. You can't really expect to be too concerned about 4 civilians being killed when you just slaughtered over a thousand a few months ago for example.
So if you're going to defend yourself from terrorist attacks, you shouldn't expect any sympathy when your civilians are killed by more terrorists.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
So if you're going to defend yourself from terrorist attacks, you shouldn't expect any sympathy when your civilians are killed by more terrorists.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
So when people see their loved ones killed by Israelis, you expect them to just accept it? How would you feel if your loved ones were blown to pieces and the country that did it issues a statement of regret, then killed the family next door. All ok with you I suppose? Stick to your movies. Obviously your fantasy world had detached you from human nature and emotion.
Is killing 1300 innocent people a legitimate "defence" against terror? Also terror and terrorist are just made up words. Nelson Mandela was labeled a terrorist. Both sides have no reservations about killing civilians. In Israel, some people cheer, the govt issues some patronizing regret and then drops more bombs. In Palestine, Hamas cheers and the PLA may issue some patronizing regret. So why should anyone else give a fuck?
Wrong again.
Israel goes out of its way to try to prevent civilian casualties.
Hamas is looking for civilian casualties, including using human shields to try to jack up the number of Palestinian casualties.
Do you understand the difference?
Unfortunately, the documentary evidence proves otherwise. 1523 civilians killed during the latest pogrom conducted by Israel against Gaza. That includes 519 children of which 70% were under 12.
Fortunately, we have extensive documentation of widespread use of human shields by Israel. Here's just a snippet where the Defence Minister admits Israel has used Palestinians as human shields on 1200 occasions.
"Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz on Tuesday demanded that the High Court review a ruling it issued last Thursday in which it declared that the 'human shield' procedure employed by the IDF when detaining Palestinian terror suspects is illegal and violates international law.
Sources at the Ministry of Defense said that Mofaz’ comments are not an attempt to subvert the Court’s decision, adding that the defense minister intends to use democratic means to revoke the ruling.
According to defense officials, the Israel Defense Forces made use of the ‘human shield’ procedure on 1,200 occasions over the last five years, and only on one occasion did a Palestinian civilian get hurt."
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3154142,00.html
You need to do your research before make such comical claims. You are beginning to behave like Ernst Zundel.
Wow... the IDF really should get some schooling on the use of human shields from Hamas... a 0.08% casualty rate is pretty pathetic. With some quick lessons from Hamas, I'm sure they can get that up to 95%+.
One thing that Israel can teach Hamas about human shields though, is NOT to use your own people. It tends to be counter-productive.
Please don't give me that rubbish about human shields, since Israel does not give a shit about human shields, why would they have any shielding value. Don't give me nonsense about minimizing civilian casualties. When someone fires 25,000 155mm rounds into an urban area, saying you are concerned about civilians casualties if a FUCKING JOKE. But you didn't answer.. how do YOU think you would react if your family was blown to pieces by another country? Would you just get over the fact you saw your childs body in pieces or do you think you'd get angry? Hate filled, want revenge like about 95% of people out there?
That's funny. I have read other posts on TERB that claimed the overwhelming majority of people who were killed were Palestinians, not Israelis.
Who was it who posted those stats?
Oh, yes, now I remember ... it was Gryfin.
Assuming Gryfin's death counts are accurate, the claim that Israel is using human shields is clearly bogus.
Every informed person knows that what I posted was accurate. Frankly, your feeble attempts to defend Jew-hating terrorism are appalling.
Naturally, I would want to replace the Jew-hating terrorists who were responsible for the conflict. I would hope you would feel the same way.
That's much easier said than done, though. If you're living in a place like Gaza, it's not all that easy to speak out against Hamas if you value your life.
Try suggesting that to the Arab League. Israel doesn't even let that enter into any peace talks because they know it is just another distraction (and they did the moral thing and integrated those refugees instead of locking them in camps).
