If all of these alleged transgressions happened so many years ago, why all of a sudden are we hearing about this now? I get that these women said they didn't call the cops at the time, so what made them suddenly change their mind about going public? What happened to make them come out now and not sooner?
Interesting dismissal at the CBC.......
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This stuff has been the only chuckle worthy part about this whole case.Whats next? One of the girls from CORNER GAS passionately exclaiming he said she had a smelly pussy back in 04'?!?!
I would assume encouragement from the Toronto Star, or from the story that they posted.I'm guessing these women never got paid for their interviews...
Personally this makes a lot of sense to me:
For those inclined to believe Ghomeshi, then, these new accusers are not evidence of his guilt but of the far-reaching female cabal of post-breakup revenge. But there's often a much simpler reason these kinds of accusations tend to come in waves, a combination of safety in numbers and a newfound sense of urgency that comes with finding out that other people have been victims. Many victims stay silent out of fear and a belief that speaking up won't do any good anyway, as the assailant will simply deny the accusations. But when one woman comes forward, other victims not only feel safer about speaking up, but they often realize this man has a pattern of behavior that won't be stopped unless more women tell their own stories and, in doing so, bring added credibility to the original accusations.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_facto...ations_eight_women_have_now_come_forward.html
It sounds like that's exactly what happened with his PR firm Navigator!:
Jian Ghomeshi was dumped by Navigator, the high-profile crisis management firm retained to protect his public image, because the company believed Ghomeshi lied to them, sources have told the Star.
“He lied to the firm,” said a source with knowledge of the situation.
According to the sources, until late Sunday night, Navigator was “buying (Ghomeshi’s) story” that it was a jilted ex-girlfriend who had manufactured lies that Ghomeshi was abusive. One source said the former CBC radio star had convinced the firm that there were no other allegations and there was nothing to be “concerned” about.
Then, as the Star reported between Monday and Thursday that at least eight women were making serious allegations of assault or sexual harassment against Ghomeshi, the firm decided at a series of meetings that it could not represent someone who, in their opinion, had lied.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201..._dumped_by_pr_firm_over_lies_sources_say.html
Surely his PR firm isn't also part of a female conspiracy to destroy him?! Very much seems to me like Jian is the author and source of his own problems...
Back in the early 90's my former family doctor was charged with sexually assaulting one (1) of his young female patients. This guy had been my family doctor since the day I was born. (And my family's as well.) He was very distinguished, always wore the European suits, I remember when my mother was in the hospital, the nurses were obviously flirting with him, he was that good looking a guy.
Anyway, at some point a young girl went to the police and reported that he had behaved inappropriately during an exam. (With me, he was always kind of lax if anything.)
Anyway, it was big news in Hamilton I remember.
Initially he denied it of course. He even phoned my mother asking her for a character reference. She asked me what I thought and I told her that I didn't believe it because a guy like him had all kinds of opportunity and if not that, he could afford to buy it. My mother agreed. But before she could write him a reference, 8 other women came forward, then 32 women. The police eventually laid 32 charges against him and he went to jail for 6 years. (In his case, it was always young teenage girls that went in seeking birth control pills and he would ask what their parents would say if they knew. If he got "my mom brought me in, she's in the waiting room, nothing happened. If he got, "please don't tell my dad, he'd kill me", he assaulted the young girls (he was going down on them during exams)).
Anyway, I didn't believe the first charge, but you can't argue with 8 and then 32 charges.
But with JG, he hasn't been charged. There's just allegations. Is he a freakshow? Based on the ever increasing allegations I'd say definitely. But that's not enough in my books.
Charge the fucker already. If he's a savage, then charge him. (And hopefully convict him.)
But if you're not going to charge him, then what? Destroy him through the internet? It kind of takes away from how the legal system is supposed to work, that whole, "innocent until proven guilty" thing.
My doctor got 6 years for going down on young girls without consent (and probably because he was a doctor). JG is supposedly ripping off clothes, hitting women, strangling women, beating them up, etc. If he's done this, then he needs to get a lot more than 6 years. But put him into the system. Don't just print shit about him on the internet.
The police need someone to come forward and press charges for this to happen. Right now Ghomeshi has his accusers scared.
- There is the embarrassment of it all.
- There is the public scrutiny of these women and their character.
- And the bigger point in my mind is what Lawyer Howard Levine stated in the star. The 50 million dollar law suit is a warning to those making the charges that if they identify themselves they will be served with libel and defamation. He has money to defend himself - the woman I doubt have an appetite for a criminal investigation followed by a lengthy civil trial where every aspect of their character will come under question.
I can see why women are hesitant to come forward.
Out of curiosity, would you be comfortable with your daughter (or sister, or cousin, etc.,.) going out with him at this point?
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The only thing really in question now is whether CBC has a right to fire him for his conduct. What makes you think "innocent until proven guilty" applies to employment law?
The standard is going to be "reasonable grounds to believe on the balance of probabilities".
It's going to be hard to fault the CBC for firing him when the public relations firm he hired to defend his honour has just fired him as a client.
Moreover, his replacement on Q is doing a perfectly fine job.
The CBC has a wealth of talent to draw from and a few months from now nobody will miss him. He was a media personality but he was not that special.
There could be any number of reasons..
I figure the most likely is something along the lines of them each individually worrying that this only happened to them.. Or that nobody would believe them if they were the only ones who came forward.. At least one of them has stated that she was basically willing to let it all go until she saw his pompous attempt at trying to claim that every victim (or in his mind "sexual partner") was a willing participant in the beatings they received..
I honestly think that most of these women weren't even sure they WERE victims until other women started coming forward.. I'm sure many of them walked away from him wondering what they did to lead him to believe that they were into it (blaming themselves).. Then all of a sudden somebody else comes forward and they can finally realize "Hey, that's exactly what happened to me!! I didn't lead him on, he took it upon himself to "assume" I was going to be into it.. And that's not okay!"
September 23 2010, Eye Weekly ran an article called "Toronto's Most Huggable Douchebags" ... kinda tongue-in-cheek, but not entirely. I can't find the original online, though a couple of blogs had links to it.
Among others, it featured Gord Martineau, Ben Mulroney, and Jian Ghomeshi. I remember seeing the article, though I've forgotten most of the details. Kinda makes me wonder who knew how much and when, if they were talking about him 4 years ago.
Among others, it featured Gord Martineau, Ben Mulroney, and Jian Ghomeshi. I remember seeing the article, though I've forgotten most of the details. Kinda makes me wonder who knew how much and when, if they were talking about him 4 years ago.
I don't think this would have gone the way it did had JG not posted on Facebook basically saying "yeah, I'm into BDSM, so what. It was all consensual" and then taunted the Star into printing the story. Had he just kept his mouth shut I suspect things may have gone differently but his enormous ego and arrogance got in the way. This in turn prompted others to come forward with their stories. Is it fair what people are writing? Maybe not, but he poked the bear and he deserves what he gets IMHO.
Which is why CBC has hired a third party to conduct an investigation.
Toronto life wrote about him back in march,apparently he is suffering from anxiety and some other psychological issues. This is what I think happened, there's no question he has been into "rough sex" which by his definition it is beating,choking,abusing women both physically and mentally.He probably discussed that with his partners beforehand in length and details through text, emails or some other sort of commiunications just to built anticipation, excitement for both parties. Most of his partners just went along thinking it is harmless fetishes and fantasies not knowing the extend this guy would go to make his sick fantasies reality. I'm also sure many of them have been audio/video taped knowingly or unknowingly. At all time due to JG 's egoistic,narcissist personality he looked at the encounters as consensual and the women as willing participants.
He really believes he is innocent so he showed emails,texts,tapes to CBC execs in the meeting which got him fired on the spot.
There probably no woman will press charges against him due to the existence of these text,emails,....
He'll be eventually be charged by police because inflicting harms on others even if it is consentual is a crime, that's why euthanasia is a crime.
As for women who came forward,I'd say majority of them are 15 minutes seekers.
But then again I still strongly believe he is innocent until proven guilty and that is why I live in this beautiful country and not my homeland.
Ps. CBC should send a team of investigators to Sochi!!
He really believes he is innocent so he showed emails,texts,tapes to CBC execs in the meeting which got him fired on the spot.
There probably no woman will press charges against him due to the existence of these text,emails,....
He'll be eventually be charged by police because inflicting harms on others even if it is consentual is a crime, that's why euthanasia is a crime.
As for women who came forward,I'd say majority of them are 15 minutes seekers.
But then again I still strongly believe he is innocent until proven guilty and that is why I live in this beautiful country and not my homeland.
Ps. CBC should send a team of investigators to Sochi!!
To the person who's claiming that cbc have already found a replacement, not only that is not the case but it is also interesting to see how the quality of the show has drastically dropped since JG's departure.
I personally doubt this. Getting consent does not feed his narcissism or ego enough. He would more likely take what wasn't offered to him. Consent would simply make this a fantasy and if it's a fantasy, he could find this with a escort willingly with his discretion being protected. No, this guy has issues. What more likely happened is that IF HE discussed things he did them in a vague enough manner so as not to scare away his dates. And when they offered no resistance........ he accepted that as consent. That doesn't however explain those women who have come forward to say he didn't ask.....he just took.
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