"Nanny slain in hotel room was moonlighting as prostitute": Toronto Sun

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http://www.torontosun.com/2014/10/16/arrest-in-murder-of-woman-in-mississauga-hotel

A 43-year-old nanny found slain in a burning Mississauga hotel room on Thanksgiving weekend was moonlighting as a prostitute when she was killed by one of her clients, Peel Regional Police allege.
An arrest was made in Evelyn Bumatay-Castillo’s death Wednesday, police said.

“Our investigation did reveal that Miss Castillo, in addition to being employed as a caregiver, was also working as a sex trade worker,” homicide Insp. George Koekoek said, after revealing the arrest in the grisly case. “This was the nature of the (alleged) relationship between her and the accused.”

Bumatay-Castillo, originally from the Philippines, moved to Canada early last year and was caring for a Thornhill couple’s kids.

But investigators only learned of her nanny job after determining she was performing sex acts for money, Koekoek said.

Police do not believe she was employed by an escort agency but she did advertise her services online, he said.

It’s alleged her killer met up with Bumatay-Castillo for a date last weekend at a Quality Inn on Brittania Rd. E., just east of Hurontario St.

Emergency crews responded to a fire call at the hotel and found a second-floor room engulfed in flames on Saturday, shortly after 6:30 p.m.

Once the fire was out, they discovered Bumatay-Castillo unconscious in the room. She was pronounced dead in hospital soon after.

“Post-mortem results revealed that the victim had died as a result of injuries received prior to the fire being set,” Koekoek said. “This confirmed to investigators ... that this was indeed a case of homicide.”
The cause of death has not yet been revealed.

The investigation is ongoing and police are appealing for witnesses in the region’s fifth murder of the year.
Koekoek said there is concern others may have been victimized by the accused.

Niran Vade “Nick” Murray, 32, of Toronto, was arrested Wednesday and charged with first-degree murder.
“While we certainly have no evidence that Murray was involved in other homicides, nor are we suggesting that, we do have reason to believe that he may have assaulted other women in the past, specifically sex trade workers,” he said.

Koekoek said investigators learned he is currently before the courts for assault and mischief charges stemming from an alleged incident in July in York Region.

“The victim in that case was also a sex trade worker and the offences are alleged to have occurred in a hotel as well,” he said.

Anyone with information regarding the murder, or those who believe they are also victims, should call the homicide bureau at 905-453-2121, ext. 3205, or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477).
 

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Sadly, this is another example of the dangerous and potentially deadly working conditions. If stuff like this doesn't incite a bigger response in here against bill C-36, I can't imagine what would.
 

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Sadly, this is another example of the dangerous and potentially deadly working conditions. If stuff like this doesn't incite a bigger response in here against bill C-36, I can't imagine what would.
Terrible incident, may she rest in peace.

On the C36 front - the dimwit cons will see it as a reason to have c36 - when we all know full well, c36 would not make a difference at all, what would is a safe place, rather than a random place.
 

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Terrible incident, may she rest in peace.

On the C36 front - the dimwit cons will see it as a reason to have c36 - when we all know full well, c36 would not make a difference at all, what would is a safe place, rather than a random place.
Yep. Incidents like this happen because the industry is already effectively illegal, and many of the people in it are operating on the fringes, but no doubt this event will be used as ammunition by C36 supporters for why even tougher laws are needed.
 

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So I'm on the bus the other day and a bunch of regular guys r talking about the upcoming Toronto election. U could tell by the way they talked they weren't Road Scholars. So one guy says to the other that some days it takes him over an hour to get from keele and Wilson to Jane and trethewey. Then he says that these guys running for mayor have no frickin idea about how hard that is on him and how the roads r so congested with traffic and there's never enough buses.
Same thing with this story and c36. The politicians haven't the slightest ideas what goes on in high end escort and massage places vs girls on their own or girls on a street corner. . They have not got the slightest clue what they're talking about.
After c36 there will be more innocent girls abused or killed while the rest of us innocent guys go to jail for getting a hand job at a MP. FUCKING ludicrous
 

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So I'm on the bus the other day and a bunch of regular guys r talking about the upcoming Toronto election. U could tell by the way they talked they weren't Road Scholars. So one guy says to the other that some days it takes him over an hour to get from keele and Wilson to Jane and trethewey. Then he says that these guys running for mayor have no frickin idea about how hard that is on him and how the roads r so congested with traffic and there's never enough buses.
Same thing with this story and c36. The politicians haven't the slightest ideas what goes on in high end escort and massage places vs girls on their own or girls on a street corner. . They have not got the slightest clue what they're talking about.
After c36 there will be more innocent girls abused or killed while the rest of us innocent guys go to jail for getting a hand job at a MP. FUCKING ludicrous
Don't be so sure. Many politicians partake in the world's oldest profession, and their posing as moral civic arbiters is a ruse. They know an escort from a streetwalker, believe me.
 

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Yes you're right as well. Some of them are downright two faced hypocrites. Just full of bullshit. Remember Spitzer? He prosecuted johns and prostitutes with a vengeance until he got caught red handed for his act of Janus.

How many lives he must have ruined going after people for the very thing he was engaged in on a regular basis. I know someone like this at work, does all sorts of sketchy unethical stuff himself but quick to divert attention to others for minor mistakes... Mainly to cover up his own bullshit.
How about Kennedy. He loved women!! But he was also an insperation for people, back in the early 60's..
 

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Very sad story. I hope they can convict the criminal. Of course C-36 would not stop someone like that. ''Oh, I should really stop killing prostitutes, because then I could be accused of buying sex and be fined 500$''

"Nanny slain in hotel room was moonlighting as prostitute"
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But investigators only learned of her nanny job after determining she was performing sex acts for money, Koekoek said.
This illustrates how the job is perceived and portrayed as a shameful secret. What does it matter if she had another job (like many of them do)? Shouldn't she be called a prostitute working as a nanny on the side? Which one they think was her biggest income?
 

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Did he not realize he'd be all over security footage, and eventually apprehended?
We don't know how it happened. Maybe it was an argument that turned bad and not premeditation. It's not even certain that he was a client based on this article. Some months ago in Montreal there was a young woman killed in a hotel by her boyfriend (not related to prostitution). People talk about violence toward escorts, but rarely compare with the violence that happens with the general population.
 

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I figured with a charge of first degree murder there must be some evidence of premeditation,
After checking, first decree is not just for premeditation. It also applies to murder that occur during other crimes such as sexual assault, criminal harrassment, kidnapping, etc. even if killing was not premeditated. Since it happened in a sexual context, maybe they consider it 1st degree by default.
 

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''Oh, I should really stop killing prostitutes, because then I could be accused of buying sex and be fined 500$''
Bill C-36 won't stop criminals like him but it will make law abiding citizens like you criminals. (Shit, I sound like a gunowner using this argument.)
 

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Bill C-36 won't stop criminals like him but it will make law abiding citizens like you criminals. (Shit, I sound like a gunowner using this argument.)
There are parallels to being a gun owner and a person who partakes in paid sex. There is the conflated notion that every client who buys sex brutalises and exploits vulnerable women. Same as the conflated notion that legal gun owners are latent homicidal maniacs, despite the fact that you cannot have a firearms license if you have a criminal record or are a violent spouse.

During the parliamentary committee sessions about the abolition of the gun registry, MP's like Francoise Boivin were predicting widespread mass gun violence against women if the long-gun registry was abolished. Now, with the debates on the sex-for-money issue, the same person is arguing sanity, and it is the Conservatives who are conflating sex-worker clients as evil and violent exploiters of vulnerable women.

This goes to show that politicians of all parties are opportunistic, and are either stupid or lack integrity. I wouldn't describe politicians as prostituting themselves, as doing so would be an insult to sex-workers.
 

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During the parliamentary committee sessions about the abolition of the gun registry, MP's like Francoise Boivin were predicting widespread mass gun violence against women if the long-gun registry was abolished. Now, with the debates on the sex-for-money issue, the same person is arguing sanity, and it is the Conservatives who are conflating sex-worker clients as evil and violent exploiters of vulnerable women.
Sex is not inherently violent or dangerous, but the concept of a gun is inherently violent and dangerous. There's not much you can actually do with a gun except blast holes in things. Note that Boisvin was not talking about making guns illegal. In both cases she is debating about the best way of regulating a potentially dangerous situation. Guns are objects that people cannot build for themselves. They are easy to ban and control to ensure safety. Sex is an activity that any adult can freely do as much as they want. It is impossible to effectively prevent the sale of it. Her argument for decriminalizing prostitution is pragmatic, to protect the safety of workers. For guns the argument is to protect the safety of the population (I don't know enough about guns to say if her argument is true but to me it does not seem to be in contradiction with views on sex work).
 

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I figured with a charge of first degree murder there must be some evidence of premeditation, or can they just drop it to second degree if they can't prove that's the case?

It appears they assume he was a client, we will have to wait for more details to confirm that theory.... "...was also working as a sex trade worker,” .... “This was the nature of the (alleged) relationship between her and the accused.”
All I can say is this horrendous crime, doesn't look good for our cause, against C36
 

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After checking, first decree is not just for premeditation. It also applies to murder that occur during other crimes such as sexual assault, criminal harrassment, kidnapping, etc. even if killing was not premeditated. Since it happened in a sexual context, maybe they consider it 1st degree by default.
Also factors in the physical evidence of the arson - how the fire was started, how fast, how extensively and how hot the room burned - evidence of an accelerant which wouldn't normally be found in a motel room might influence police to suspect a planned intention to conceal the manner in which the victim died.
 

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Sex is not inherently violent or dangerous, but the concept of a gun is inherently violent and dangerous. There's not much you can actually do with a gun except blast holes in things. Note that Boisvin was not talking about making guns illegal. In both cases she is debating about the best way of regulating a potentially dangerous situation. Guns are objects that people cannot build for themselves. They are easy to ban and control to ensure safety. Sex is an activity that any adult can freely do as much as they want. It is impossible to effectively prevent the sale of it. Her argument for decriminalizing prostitution is pragmatic, to protect the safety of workers. For guns the argument is to protect the safety of the population (I don't know enough about guns to say if her argument is true but to me it does not seem to be in contradiction with views on sex work).
Sex is not violent of dangerous, but prostitution is (at least, according to the premise of C36 and the view of the cons)

in a similar fundamental disagreement of belief, I do not see guns as inherently dangerous. They are tools. No different than a sharp knife or a sledgehammer. They can be used safely, or to do harm.

as long as we keep talking in absolutes, we don't recognize where the other opinions are coming from, and no consensus can be reached.
 

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The premise that prostitution is inherently dangerous is simply a lie and demonstrably false. The majority of transaction happens without any violence and occasional violence also happens in relationships when there is no money involved.

You can't really compare a gun with a knife or hammer. The only thing a gun can be used for is as a weapon to harm or threaten. That violence can be used for good or evil: hunting, target practice, robbing banks or stopping criminals; but it remains violent. That's why I said it is inherently violent, although it is not inherently evil.
 

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If prostitution didn't have a stigma this Nanny may still be alive today. If she worked for a reputable agency as opposed to being an indy she may still be alive today. This new bill just based on it's premise that prostitution is illegal, anyone involved in it is a criminal and should be eliminated further stigmatizes the working ladies and leaves them open to psychopaths who feel they are marginalized people.
 
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