George Galloway 'beaten over Israel comments'
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Please show me CNN's translation of the full interview by Hamdan, not just the MEMRI clip.CNN's quote was fact checked by CNN, which means CNN is standing behind its accuracy.
If they only checked the edited clip MEMRI gave them its worthless, since the largest issue is editing.
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"Worthless"?Please show me CNN's translation of the full interview by Hamdan, not just the MEMRI clip.
If they only checked the edited clip MEMRI gave them its worthless, since the largest issue is editing.
The four sentences are more than enough to confirm that Hamdan was promoting hatred against the Jews for being Jewish.
Your "full interview" argument is quite intellectually dishonest, even by your standards.
I don't need to fact check CNN's work, I trust CNN. Stop being ridiculous.Please show me CNN's translation of the full interview by Hamdan, not just the MEMRI clip.
"Worthless"?
The four sentences are more than enough to confirm that Hamdan was promoting hatred against the Jews for being Jewish.
Your "full interview" argument is quite intellectually dishonest, even by your standards.
So you think CNN confirmed only the MEMRI edited clip?
This issue is editing, as Hamdan claimed.
Unless you have a full, third party translation of the full interview, you are relying only on propandists, ex-IDF members, MEMRI.
The claim that Hamdan is racist based on edited clips is as strong as my claim:
Moviefan2 is racist!
And of course, my case is made stronger by your excusing a plan for concentration camps to focus only on one edited statement.
Your use of the word "edited" is dishonest. Most clips are taken from longer interviews or footage. However, the clip itself was not altered. Hamdan's blood libel has been accurately depicted in the media.So you think CNN confirmed only the MEMRI edited clip?
I've never been to the Holocaust Museum but I have no doubts in my mind that the Holocaust occurred.Unless you have a full, third party translation of the full interview, you are relying only on propandists, ex-IDF members, MEMRI.
Similarly, I've never seen the full Hamdan interview. But I've seen enough of the blood libel part to know that he was promoting hatred of the Jews for being Jewish.
You know it, too.
The people at CNN are not "propagandists."
And while you and Gryfin have tried to float this idea that there's some bigger context that would make Hamdan's blood libel acceptable, you've never explained -- or even speculated -- what that context might be. Because, of course, there isn't any bigger context that would change the meaning of Hamdan's blood libel.
Most of us are able to accept reality. Unfortunately, you seem to struggle with reality when it comes to Jew-hating terrorist organizations.
No, Hamdan says in the interview that the clip was edited and not presented in context.Your use of the word "edited" is dishonest.
That is dishonest, but MEMRI has a track record of dishonest to false representations, that is what they do as a propaganda wing.
Claiming that CNN confirmed the MEMRI edited clip doesn't make the clip legit.
CNN aren't propagandists, but if all they had to translate was a MEMRI clip, they didn't see the whole picture.
Meanwhile you are still more worried about a MEMRI claim then you are about an Israeli MP calling for concentration camps.
Moviefan2 is racist!
There are no jump cuts in the clip. No dissolves. No cutaway shots. And the audio and video are in sync.No, Hamdan says in the interview that the clip was edited and not presented in context.
If Hamdan was claiming the clip was altered, he was lying. The clip is legit.
As for the "context" argument, you know it's B.S.
You and Gryfin have both been challenged to come up with an example of a context that would somehow make Hamdan's blood libel acceptable. You have both come up with nothing. Because there is nothing.
Hamdan was promoting hatred of the Jews for being Jewish. And you know it.
Its a 12 second clip.There are no jump cuts in the clip. No dissolves. No cutaway shots. And the audio and video are in sync.
If Hamdan was claiming the clip was altered, he was lying.
MEMRI has a history, as Israeli government operation run by ex-IDF members, of producing propaganda claims.
Everything they release is suspect.
Hamdan claims the comments were taken out of context, given MEMRI's history you have to take his claim as legit.
Using only that section out of context is as accurate as me posting this over and over again, based on you spouting off what you clearly identified as racist speech.Moviefan2 is racist!
Where is your evidence that CNN didn't see the whole thing? CNN are pro's, they know what they are doing. They confirmed the clip. I trust they did a proper job.Claiming that CNN confirmed the MEMRI edited clip doesn't make the clip legit.
CNN aren't propagandists, but if all they had to translate was a MEMRI clip, they didn't see the whole picture.
Really, you haven't even given a shred of evidence that there is anything being taken out of context. Hamdan had has lots of time by now to set the record straight, and he hasn't provided any additional information.
I think you are just doing your usual idiot denial of blatantly obvious and well documented facts.
Like how you went on for pages and pages flailing around trying to say the UN Special Rapporteurs speak for the UN even though we have a definitive, formal, and official statement saying they are independent.
You are never more stupid and clownish then when you are jabbering around denying that fire is hot.
Where is the proof they saw anything other then the 12 second edited clip?Where is your evidence that CNN didn't see the whole thing?
That's all they said they did, confirm the MEMRI translation of the 12 second clip.
I've heard Moviefan say the exact same clip here.
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I trust CNN. I don't need to see proof that they did their job properly.Where is the proof they saw anything other then the 12 second edited clip?
Nothing was taken out of context.Really, you haven't even given a shred of evidence that there is anything being taken out of context.
The four sentences in the clip provide more than enough evidence that Hamdan was promoting hatred of the Jews for being Jewish. Groggy knows that is the case.
I'll repeat what I have said before: I wonder if he is lying to himself. He's certainly not fooling anyone else.
Those your words?Nothing was taken out of context promoting hatred of the Jews for being Jewish.
I'll repeat what I have said before.
Hamdan's words were not altered. Anyone who claims Hamdan's words were altered when he stated the blood libel is lying.Those your words?
Are those your words?Anyone who claims he stated the blood libel is lying.
So you admit you don't need proof.CNN said the quote checked out.
Your arguments are faith based.
