Roger Goodell - Everyone needs to pay a price and be accountable, but not him!

demien2k5

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Wow. This guys doesn't seem willing to accept any real personal accountability whatsoever for his part in recent NFL scandals. When other people make mistakes, he's always made sure they paid a painful personal/financial price for their mistakes. When it comes to him personally, apparently all he needs for absolution is to say he made a mistake, but no further punishment or accountabilty seems necessary or appropriate in his mind. Has not even remotely considered resignation, and appears to be placing the majority of blame on pre-existing NFL policies and procedures he is presently tasked with overseeing for all current issues. Never seen such a massive double standard. I sincerely hope a tidal wave of social media and public pressure actually FORCES the NFL to take quick and decisive punitive action against this douche, and see him removed from his current position.

Frankly, if he's to keep any professional credibility whatsoever, he should independently resign.
 

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It looks like no policy changes for months...super bowl time. He should announce that the policy will be retroactive to today. I also hope that all the players are being told by their teams that such behaviour is unacceptable.
 

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I understand that Roger Goodell is guilty of not making swift, decisive decisions, but, why is he being treated as the bad guy? Is he the one who is guilty of domestic violence? Did he slug his girlfriend in the face? Let's keep the focus where it should be, on the guilty parties. The NFLPA is keeping eerily quiet on this as well, why are they not being held to the same standards of accountability everyone wants to hold Goodell to?

Playing a sport and being paid handsomely is not a right, it is a privilege. Many athletes seem to forget this. The loss of this privilege forever is the price they need to be made to pay.
 

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I understand that Roger Goodell is guilty of not making swift, decisive decisions, but, why is he being treated as the bad guy? Is he the one who is guilty of domestic violence? Did he slug his girlfriend in the face? Let's keep the focus where it should be, on the guilty parties.
Roger is guilty of the "Joe Paterno Rule". Roger should have called the police and the FBI (as Joe should have done). If you are NFL Commissioner and you get 3rd hand report that one of your players assaulted his GF, you should immediately call the police and the FBI and suspend the player until he proves his innocence.

I think Roger should stay. It's not as if he said that yoga pants might not be suitable for some women or that he voted against gay marriage.
 

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Maybe Allan Rock had the right idea. Suspend the whole team for a full year. So, did Roger consider suspending the entire Ravens and/or Vikings team for a full year? If not, why not?
 

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Roger only does what the owners tell him to do.....
....and the owners are the ones who will decide whether he should be held accountable.

Everyone is saying he handled it poorly, however there is no consensus on exactly how he should have handled it, meaning there is/was no clear cut solution.

It is obviously a complicated situation and no matter what approach was/is taken there will be lots of dissatisfied people. Basically a no win situation for RG.
 

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.... If you ... get 3rd hand report that one of your players assaulted his GF, you should immediately call the police and the FBI and suspend the player until he proves his innocence.
Here's an even better idea. Why not tie anyone accused of anything to a chair, and hold them under water for ten minutes? If they're still alive when you bring them up, then you have proof that they're a witch, and you have God's implicit consent to burn them alive at the stake. If they're dead, then somebody goofed, and the poor soul deserves to be buried in consecrated ground.
 

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On the clips I heard Goodell said including him. He full accepts part of the blame.
I heard him say he made a mistake and is now trying to correct it.
 

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On the clips I heard Goodell said including him. He full accepts part of the blame.
I heard him say he made a mistake and is now trying to correct it.
Nothing but lip service without a shred of substance whatsoever.

Adrian Peterson said publicly he now realizes he made a mistake in how he disciplined his son, and will try to correct his parenting methods going forward. But the NFL still won't let him play, will they? Why not? He accepted the blame and is going to try and correct it, just like Goodell! But......

When Goodell lectured Sean Payton with his famous 'Ignorance is no excuse' he felt Payton should be held accountable to the tune of a full season's suspension (that's a lot of $) even though Payton wasn't directly involved, and the Saints organization had to cough up $500,000 fine and were stripped of two successive second round picks, and had to go with an interim coach for a year. What consequences will Goodell face for pretending to be an ignorant sack of shit? (everyone knows he saw the Ray Rice video evidence a long time ago!) Probably none...unless public opinion and sponsorship money puts sufficient pressure on the owners to eventually take action. Goodell is nothing more than an NFL stooge who has lost all credibility with fans, players, and the NFLPA. He should show some professionalism and class, and resign for the good of everyone concerned.
 

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Adrian Peterson said publicly he now realizes he made a mistake in how he disciplined his son, and will try to correct his parenting methods going forward. But the NFL still won't let him play, will they? Why not? He accepted the blame and is going to try and correct it, just like Goodell! But......
No buts.

Peterson works for the Vikings/league. They decided his punishment.

Goodell works for the the owners. They decide if he should suffer consequences. Any harsh criticisms should be directed at the owners as a group, not RG.
 

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Football is not ice dancing.

No one talks about the gorilla in the room, what part does head trauma play in the conduct of players. Football is a brutal game with more impact per motion than any other sport athletes train for. Remember when they attempted to wire the line of scrimmage for sound - it wasn't pretty. They soon stopped that in a hurry!

 

demien2k5

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Goodell works for the the owners. They decide if he should suffer consequences. Any harsh criticisms should be directed at the owners as a group, not RG.
Sounds like you're endorsing a moral and ethical double standard here. Goodell is paid to do a job. As the man in charge, he alone is ultimately accountable for the decisions he and his underlings in the league office make. Not the owners, who are in most cases far removed from the day to day opertions of the league which they pay Goodell to oversee. He fucked up badly, and he knows it, to the point of lying to cover his own ass. By not independently resigning, all he's doing is showing that his sound judgement is badly impaired. Waiting to be canned by the league just shows how mercenary he is. He wants to ensure he maxes out on compensation which would go out the window if he quits on his own. At $44M per year, we already knew what Goodell was really all about. Now he's just re-confirming his own lack of integrity.
 

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Sounds like you're endorsing a moral and ethical double standard here. Goodell is paid to do a job. As the man in charge, he alone is ultimately accountable for the decisions he and his underlings in the league office make. Not the owners, who are in most cases far removed from the day to day opertions of the league which they pay Goodell to oversee. He fucked up badly, and he knows it, to the point of lying to cover his own ass. By not independently resigning, all he's doing is showing that his sound judgement is badly impaired. Waiting to be canned by the league just shows how mercenary he is. He wants to ensure he maxes out on compensation which would go out the window if he quits on his own. At $44M per year, we already knew what Goodell was really all about. Now he's just re-confirming his own lack of integrity.
He ain't worth $44M per year, that's for sure.
 

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Sounds like you're endorsing a moral and ethical double standard here. Goodell is paid to do a job. As the man in charge, he alone is ultimately accountable for the decisions he and his underlings in the league office make. Not the owners, who are in most cases far removed from the day to day opertions of the league which they pay Goodell to oversee. He fucked up badly, and he knows it, to the point of lying to cover his own ass. By not independently resigning, all he's doing is showing that his sound judgement is badly impaired. Waiting to be canned by the league just shows how mercenary he is. He wants to ensure he maxes out on compensation which would go out the window if he quits on his own. At $44M per year, we already knew what Goodell was really all about. Now he's just re-confirming his own lack of integrity.
Everything you brought up is for his bosses to decide.

We can have our opinions. Only their collective opinion will determine if he pays a price. You can debate 'til you are blue in the face but that is the reality of the situation.
 

SkyRider

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Here is the $64 question:

How much involvement should your employer have in your private life?

For example, if you are a grade school teacher, are you "hurting the brand" if you take a nude photo of yourself while on vacation in Spain and post it to your Facebook page? True story. The teacher was fired.
 

demien2k5

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Here is the $64 question:

How much involvement should your employer have in your private life?

For example, if you are a grade school teacher, are you "hurting the brand" if you take a nude photo of yourself while on vacation in Spain and post it to your Facebook page? True story. The teacher was fired.
It's not really up for debate anymore. Most employers have Code of Conduct agreements in place with employees from time of hire to address any perceived maifeasance downstream. You either sign it, or look for work elsewhere. All the major sports leagues and sponsors have gone this route for years.
 

SkyRider

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Gloria Allred wants to know why an NFL player was allowed to play in a game last week after a woman had accused him of rape. No, this player was not arrested nor convicted in a court of law.
 
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