The question is do you think describing the universal and unstoppable drive for human freedom as "Jew hatred" appropriate?
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I support freedom for the Palestinians. I do not support attacking civilians to achieve those means. You can be a freedom fighter without being a terrorist. I'd gladly label Hamas as freedom fighters if they limited themselves to only attacking military targets (but the only thing that will get them a state is giving up on their desire to destroy Israel).The question is do you think describing the universal and unstoppable drive for human freedom as "Jew hatred" appropriate?
I certainly think it is appropriate to describe a pathological hatred of Jews for being Jewish as "Jew hatred."The question is do you think describing the universal and unstoppable drive for human freedom as "Jew hatred" appropriate?
You are right. it's not about killing jews. It's about the right of return. It's full equality. It's about dignity. Its about international law. It's about the return of stolen property.Again you have a funny fascist definition of freedom. Freedom does not mean killing Jews.
Only the anti Palestinian crowd says its about killing Jews.
Or many Palestinians themselves such as Hamas TV who publicly broadcast about killing Jews.You are right. it's not about killing jews. It's about the right of return. It's full equality. It's about dignity. Its about international law. It's about the return of stolen property.
Only the anti Palestinian crowd says its about killing Jews.
Try reading the Hamas charter. This time, try reading all of it and not just highlighting the parts about Zionism.You are right. it's not about killing jews. It's about the right of return. It's full equality. It's about dignity. Its about international law. It's about the return of stolen property.
Only the anti Palestinian crowd says its about killing Jews.
Look who's avoiding questions now. Let's try again.I certainly think it is appropriate to describe a pathological hatred of Jews for being Jewish as "Jew hatred."
The question is do you think describing the universal and unstoppable drive for human freedom as "Jew hatred" appropriate?
You are confusing MEMRI and CAMERA for Palestinian television.Or many Palestinians themselves such as Hamas TV who publicly broadcast about killing Jews.
Think about the Palestinian Israelis beaten in the streets of Israel by racist mobs egged on by the virulent anti Palestinian politicians who propose ethnic populations transfers, call Palestinians a cancer, and encourage apartheid.
Try reading the Likud charter and tell us about Eretz Israel.Try reading the Hamas charter. This time, try reading all of it and not just highlighting the parts about Zionism.
Its not a question that needs answering, since your 'evidence' comes from MEMRI.That's astonishing, Groggy.
I asked you twice if you believe it is appropriate to refer to people who are driven by a pathological hatred of Jews as "freedom fighters." Both times, you responded by completely evading the question and trying to change the subject.
It's not -- or shouldn't be -- a difficult question. Is there a reason you refuse to answer it?
If you have real evidence, we can discuss it.
Meanwhile, you refuse to be offended by a call for concentration camps by a sitting member of the Israeli government, or to even consider that someone from Gaza might get angry over calls for concentration camps.
You really don't understand 'never again', do you?
An evasion. If you were to read the Hamas charter properly, you would know that Hamas is all about killing Jews.Try reading the Likud charter and tell us about Eretz Israel.
CNN and the New York Times are not run by MEMRI.Its not a question that needs answering, since your 'evidence' comes from MEMRI.
If you have real evidence, we can discuss it.
In any event, I say the same thing to you that I said to Gryfin: Try reading Hamas' charter. You won't like what you find, but at least you'll know what it is you're defending.
Is it any better then the Likud charter?In any event, I say the same thing to you that I said to Gryfin: Try reading Hamas' charter. You won't like what you find, but at least you'll know what it is you're defending.
The Hamas charter certainly confirms that Hamas is ideologically driven to kill the Jews.Is it any better then the Likud charter?
Did you pull that off of a MEMRI translation of the charter?The Hamas charter certainly confirms that Hamas is ideologically driven to kill the Jews.
Yes, a party that wants a bigger Israel where minority rights are still protected is far better than one that vows to kill religious minorities.Is it any better then the Likud charter?
And Likud's mandate means nothing in coalition governments where the Likud leader has supported a Palestinian state.
You obviously don't like admitting anything Hamas does is bad. Even if you don't like MEMRI or PMW, the Arabic in all of their videos is clearly audible.You are confusing MEMRI and CAMERA for Palestinian television.
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What Hamas is actually about is terrorism. Blowing up buses and restaurants, firing rockets at civilians, kidnappings, murders. They are not remotely interested in things like equality, or dignity, or international law -- Hamas are dedicated to the violation of international law and the persecution of Jews.You are right. it's not about killing jews. It's about the right of return. It's full equality. It's about dignity. Its about international law. It's about the return of stolen property.
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I assume this means you've never read the Hamas charter.Did you pull that off of a MEMRI translation of the charter?
