Ah. That makes it better. Of course one of those schools was immediately beside another school being used as a shelter.
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Contrived. Yep.Oh yea....he'll supply the Indian reporter who contrived that whole video about a missile site....
Add the CBC, France 24, the Finnish reporter, the Archbishop of Gaza, the Italian reporter, the FPA...
In addition to the many sources mentioned by BC, Washington Post as well: "It is not unusual for militants to launch rockets from sites near my hotel. "
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...i-strike-kills-four-children-at-a-gaza-beach/
It happens so often that Hamas launch from around hotels and hospitals that it isn't even really news, which is why the Finnish reporter mentioned it in an offhand way in her story as well.
Most mentions of it are reporting on other events and mention the Hamas practice of using civilian locations to launch missiles just in passing because it happens all the time.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...i-strike-kills-four-children-at-a-gaza-beach/
It happens so often that Hamas launch from around hotels and hospitals that it isn't even really news, which is why the Finnish reporter mentioned it in an offhand way in her story as well.
Most mentions of it are reporting on other events and mention the Hamas practice of using civilian locations to launch missiles just in passing because it happens all the time.
4 days later and 'near my hotel' is the best you can come up with?In addition to the many sources mentioned by BC, Washington Post as well: "It is not unusual for militants to launch rockets from sites near my hotel. "
This debate is over, you've had plenty of chance to provide real evidence.
Israel is the only side that has been shown to have a policy of using human shields in the past and continues on to this day.
Sure thing Mr. Ostrich.4 days later and 'near my hotel' is the best you can come up with?....
BC gave you half a dozen more, but really any one of them alone wins the debate. Hamas frequently fires rockets from near a hotel. Case closed.4 days later and 'near my hotel' is the best you can come up with?
The last time I opened a BC post he proved himself so full of shit that I won't bother again.BC gave you half a dozen more, but really any one of them alone wins the debate. Hamas frequently fires rockets from near a hotel. Case closed.
You're free to feel that he's won some argument that I'm not part of.
But in the meantime:
This debate is over, you've had plenty of chance to provide real evidence.
Israel is the only side that has been shown to have a policy of using human shields in the past and continues on to this day.
Avoidance of facts doesn't help you win arguments.The last time I opened a BC post he proved himself so full of shit that I won't bother again.....
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-rocket-launched-during-cbc-interview-1.2731201
http://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-archbishop-says-rockets-fired-from-church/
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/3...ion-misfired-rocket-killed-children-in-shati/
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/06/w...re-video-of-rocket-launch-from-gaza.html?_r=0
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prot...de-into-Israel-says-foreign-journalist-369804
http://www.france24.com/en/20140805...et-launching-pad-near-gaza-homes-un-building/
And the Foreign Press Association
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...asts-Hamas-for-threatening-journalists-370755
And of course it is open news that Hamas uses a hospital as their HQ.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...6fd3d7-3c0f-4413-94a9-2ab16af1445d_story.html
Fail.Avoidance of facts doesn't help you win arguments.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/gaza-rocket-launched-during-cbc-interview-1.2731201
The report is guessing and has no real evidence.This particular rocket was fired from a good distance from where we were recording.
...Samer, who knows Gaza very well, thinks militants would have launched it from somewhere in northern Gaza City.
As usual, open up a Basketcase post and the claim is shown to be baseless in the first supplied link.
Back to ignore, if that's all you've got, I've no time for timewasting posters who don't even read their own links.
Fail is right when you ignore the next sentences.Fail.....
Samer, who knows Gaza very well, thinks militants would have launched it from somewhere in northern Gaza City. This is clearly a residential area. The hotel our crew stayed at during our last few Gaza assignments is in the same neighbourhood, and I've witnessed several rocket launches.
And the rest.
Gaza City’s Greek Orthodox church compound, a site that sheltered hundreds of Palestinians who fled their homes during IDF shelling in the area, was used by members of Hamas to launch rockets at Israeli territory, a prominent Christian leader in the Strip said Wednesday.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-archbishop-says-rockets-fired-from-church/
On Twitter, Barbati, Jerusalem Correspondent for Radio Popolare Milano, and a former reporter for Sky Italia, in Beijing, said, “Out of #Gaza far from #Hamas retaliation: misfired rocket killed children yday [yesterday] in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris.”
He said, “@IDFSpokesperson said truth in communique released yesterday about Shati camp massacre. It was not #Israel behind it.”
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/07/3...ion-misfired-rocket-killed-children-in-shati/
Shortly before a cease-fire went into effect in Gaza on Tuesday morning, a crew from India’s NDTV captured rare footage of Islamist militants quietly preparing to fire a rocket at Israel from a densely populated area of the Palestinian territory.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/06/w...re-video-of-rocket-launch-from-gaza.html?_r=1
Aishi Zidan said a rocket was fired at Israel at 2:00 a.m., “right in the back parking lot of the Shifa Hospital in Gaza."
http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prot...de-into-Israel-says-foreign-journalist-369804
FRANCE 24 has exclusive footage of a Hamas rocket-launching pad that appears to show that the Islamist militant group has been firing from areas heavily populated with civilians.
http://www.france24.com/en/20140805...et-launching-pad-near-gaza-homes-un-building/
Keep on pretending the truth doesn't exist ostrich man.
The Washington Post report is real evidence.This debate is over, you've had plenty of chance to provide real evidence.
Twice, I posted all the conspicuous evidence of fraud, and not once did you refute any of it.Contrived. Yep....
I will refute it: NDTV, India's 24/7 news channel, is an independent and highly respected news agency who can be taken at their word as reliable, honest reporters. Their statements are credible evidence even without the video they shot.Twice, I posted all the conspicuous evidence of fraud, and not once did you refute any of it.
You attempted to misinterpret the video and suggest it could be showing something different than what the NDTV reporters said it showed, as if the video were the product of a partisan agency. The NDTV reporters, however, represent a well known media outlet with high journalistic standards ehi are neutral in the conflict with no reason to misrepresent their reports.
They are believable, you are not. The video shows a Palestinian rocket launch from a crowded civilian area because that is what they report it does. Just their word alone as to what they witnessed is enough to establish their report as a credible, factual account.
Add that to the reports from the Washington Post, the CBC, the Finnish journalist, etc., etc.
It is an irrefutable fact that Hamas fire rockets from crowded civilian areas in order to use hotel guests, hospital patients, and residents as human shields.
The shot of the 'rocket' being fired depicts a different building then the one that's next to the tent.I will refute it: NDTV, India's 24/7 news channel, is an independent and highly respected news agency who can be taken at their word as reliable, honest reporters. Their statements are credible evidence even without the video they shot.
You attempted to misinterpret the video and suggest it could be showing something different than what the NDTV reporters said it showed, as if the video were the product of a partisan agency. The NDTV reporters, however, represent a well known media outlet with high journalistic standards ehi are neutral in the conflict with no reason to misrepresent their reports.
They are believable, you are not. The video shows a Palestinian rocket launch from a crowded civilian area because that is what they report it does. Just their word alone as to what they witnessed is enough to establish their report as a credible, factual account.
Add that to the reports from the Washington Post, the CBC, the Finnish journalist, etc., etc.
It is an irrefutable fact that Hamas fire rockets from crowded civilian areas in order to use hotel guests, hospital patients, and residents as human shields.
Why do you keep posting bad fake videos?
You'd think the IDF could do a better job with their fake videos, the flotilla video's were really lame, the first IDF video that claimed to show rocket fire from a school used the wrong building and now this one has an obvious insert of a different explosion shot.
Lame.
Meanwhile we have the words of HRW:
Israel's response?The evidence Human Rights Watch uncovered in its on-the-ground investigations refutes [Israel’s] argument…we found strong evidence that Hezbollah stored most of its rockets in bunkers and weapon storage facilities located in uninhabited fields and valleys, that in the vast majority of cases Hezbollah fighters left populated civilian areas as soon as the fighting started, and that Hezbollah fired the vast majority of its rockets from pre-prepared positions outside villages.
They ban HRW from entering Gaza.
Case closed.
Your trying to pick apart news from major news organization is pretty sad.Twice, I posted all the conspicuous evidence of fraud, and not once did you refute any of it.
It also seems to be an excuse for you to ignore the multiple news organizations reporting on the same thing.
Words such as this?...
Meanwhile we have the words of HRW:
...
Human Rights Watch: Hamas must stop extrajudicial execution of collaborators
http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-east/1.612379
Or this?
Palestinian armed groups in Gaza have launched scores of rockets into Israel since June 13, 2014. When fired indiscriminately or targeted at Israeli population centers – as these attacks seem to be – they are serious violations of the law of armed conflicts.
http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/09/palestineisrael-indiscriminate-palestinian-rocket-attacks
or
Forces deployed in populated areas must avoid locating military objectives – including fighters, ammunition and weapons -- in or near densely populated areas, and endeavor to remove civilians from the vicinity of military objectives. Belligerents are prohibited from using civilians to shield military objectives or operations from attack. "Shielding" refers to purposefully using the presence of civilians to render military forces or areas immune from attack.
http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/03/qa-2014-hostilities-between-israel-and-hamas
and
Human Rights Watch research in Gaza found that armed groups repeatedly fired rockets from densely populated areas, near homes, businesses, and a hotel, unnecessarily placing civilians in the vicinity at grave risk from Israeli counter-fire.
http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/12/24/gaza-palestinian-rockets-unlawfully-targeted-israeli-civilians
(from the last conflict but on point)
Your attempts at presenting conspicuously fraudulent reporting only underscores your desperation in continuing toYour trying to pick apart news from major news organization is pretty sad.
It also seems to be an excuse for you to ignore the multiple news organizations reporting on the same thing.
promote a completely untenable and racist policy.
Yep, the news is a fraud because it actually criticizes the actions of Hamas etc.Your attempts at presenting conspicuously fraudulent reporting only underscores your desperation in continuing to
promote a completely untenable and racist policy.
Care to parse the reports from CBC, France 24, the Archbishop of Gaza....or for that matter the HRW quotes above?
Don't want to address that Indian report do you.Yep, the news is a fraud because it actually criticizes the actions of Hamas etc.
Care to parse the reports from CBC, France 24, the Archbishop of Gaza....or for that matter the HRW quotes above?
NDTV are one of India's best media outlets, they have high journalistic standards. Uf they say Hamas fired rockets from next to their hotel that is what happened. Considering the Washington Post says the same thing there is no doubt about it.Don't want to address that Indian report do you.
You are the conspicuous fraud, refusing to believe the widely and multiply reported news.
You also still owe us an answer as to whether you think Hamas have a right to fire rockets at civilians.
