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Why do pooners lie about their reason for hobbying?

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Short men in European countries such as Italy carry themselves with confidence , charm and like you said swag. I have yet to meet a short confident man in Toronto except for one. I'm not saying that they are not out there just not one I've met. Another reason maybe that in general Canadian women are short or average in stature and see getting a tall guy as some kind of prize.
It MIGHT BE ..... Because they know & see women do NOT place such high importance on HEIGHT .... & DISMISS them immediately due to height as here in North America. ALSO many women see the short funny /charming guy ..... as just that " nice " " funny " " sweet " .... & friendzone if not the Big Hunky guy.
 

thumper18474

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WOW...THIS IS BULLSHIT...
Heightism at its worst!!!
To look down on someone cus they're vertically challenged..is..um.well..hmmm...
Ok.... so just because you're vertically endowed..is no reason to...ah...hmmm...Nevermind.:frusty:
 

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WOW...THIS IS BULLSHIT...
Heightism at its worst!!!
To look down on someone cus they're vertically challenged..is..um.well..hmmm...
Ok.... so just because you're vertically endowed..is no reason to...ah...hmmm...Nevermind.:frusty:
Its not all sunshine and rainbows up here you know...ever smashed your head on the way to a restaurant bathroom??
 

nottyboi

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Your reasons are true to a degree, but if I really wanted to work at it (and at time I have) I can have a 7-8 girlfriend. But its a lot of work and you do get tired of fucking the same 7-8 girl after a while. Since I never wanted all the trappings (literally) of family life, there isn't that extra component that pushes me to keep the relationship going. So there you have it. I know I am not Charlie Sheen and I don't pay them to leave. I pay them for sex AND to leave after.
 

legmann

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Good god, this thread reads like a showcase of insecurity and fear. Some of you should put yourselves out to pasture now. The world is not that bad, trust me.


On looks: the shallowness on the part of females being portrayed here is not entirely non-existent, but the type of overly-picky, extremely shallow girl referred to here represents only a small subset of the population. If you are going to base your sample on the twentysomething club-goer, you shouldn't expect more to begin with.

Fact: I see more than enough highly attractive girls here in Toronto and in Montreal with guys most would not consider 'conventionally' handsome. I see girls out regularly with guys noticeably shorter than them also.

Point? Outside of that looks-first, meat-market mentality held by a relatively small group of people, girls are (in the long run, at least) attracted to the same things they always have been: confidence, charm, guys with aspirations, someone who can make them laugh, someone who makes them feel comfortable (this is most important, btw). These things haven't changed, and aren't likely to. Approach a girl with confidence, treat her well, be good in bed, and she can be yours.


On height: same applies as above. If you are going to limit your sample to the overly-superficial club-hopper, don't expect more.
Common knowledge on many dating sites, for example, that if you aren't at least 5'10, don't even bother. That might well be true, but dating site are not exactly a representative sample. This city is, though. Look at the diversity here. Asian, Filipino, Mediterranean, etc etc. Girls of these ethnic groups aren't exactly giants. There is a spate of girls barely cresting 5'5, if that. You don't need to be 5'10+ to play here. Insist on trolling clubs and dating sites? You'll need to be able to compete there.

Average height of females in this country is 5'5. Average height of males is 5'9. I'm 5'8. I hardly run across a girl (barefoot, at least) that's taller than me. Those that are, have a whole slew of men taller than they to choose from. Luckily for the rest of us, there are more than enough not as tall out there. Play in your league, and you should be fine.
 

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I hobby because nobody's feelings get hurt. The relationship is very clear cut. There are no complications that arise.
 

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So close and yet so far.
Reality: Men see escorts for a variety of reasons and their reasons can also change over time, especially given changes in their personal circumstances.
Reality: I have been attracted to the different men in my life for a variety of reasons and what I find attractive has evolved over time.
Well, I never lied, and my reasons did change over time.

I started because I wasn't getting nearly enough sex at home, for my liking. My wife, for whatever reason, started having more sex with me in that time. Now I see escorts because I enjoy it, and I still like more sex than my wife is willing to give me. I average once a week with my wife, and once a week with an SP. If I had more disposable income, I would probably see more SP's (or, one special SP more often).
 

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Reality: Men see escorts for a variety of reasons and their reasons can also change over time, especially given changes in their personal circumstances.
Reality: I have been attracted to the different men in my life for a variety of reasons and what I find attractive has evolved over time.
Absolutely. It's hilarious how some men here say females are so shallow in their tastes, yet the only female demographic they acknowledge is svelte pretty twentysomethings. I have repeatedly seen sp's who were actually less attractive than civilian women I've dated, but their bedroom skills put them in a different category, just as I'm sure that most honest sp's will admit to having amazing sexual experiences with clients who were frankly ugly. Desire has many dimensions.
 

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1,000 times this.

Absolutely. It's hilarious how some men here say females are so shallow in their tastes, yet the only female demographic they acknowledge is svelte pretty twentysomethings. I have repeatedly seen sp's who were actually less attractive than civilian women I've dated, but their bedroom skills put them in a different category, just as I'm sure that most honest sp's will admit to having amazing sexual experiences with clients who were frankly ugly. Desire has many dimensions.
 

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They always give the same reasons:

"I don't want to be tied down."
"I don't want to fake commitment just to get a girl to sleep with me."
"I'm shy and lack confidence."
"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

Just lol. Makes about as much sense as saying you pay your mechanic to leave. The real reason men pay (in the vast majority of cases)... *drum roll*... we can't get hot girls for free. In fact, most of us can't even get semi-cute ones. And what's wrong with that? A woman's choice of man is not a reflection on the self-worth of the man, nor on the men she did not choose. Just their faces.

My attitude when I first got into this hobby: "Wait, so the pretty boy with the narrow eyes, small nose, and flat profile gets to fuck 6's and above, while I'm stuck with 3's and below? His penis and brain gets to experience untold pleasure, while I'm stuck on the sidelines? Just because of some trivial facial dimensions? That's bullshit. I'm taking ownership of my sex life". And that's why I pay. :)
This is some full of shit posting right here.

A) You're showing your ignorance if you legitimately believe that there are no guys out there who do this because they don't want to be tied down to dating or a relationship. No, we must all be as unattractive as you infer that you are and have to pay for it. Sorry buddy, but I don't have to pay for it, I want to pay for it. #smh

B) "Gets hot girls for free" ? What does this even mean? Free in what sense? Free in that you're not directly giving them money in an envelope.. but even if you are pursing girls in a dating scenario, you're probably hitting on them and buying them drinks, dinner, etc... which is, guess what? Not free.

C) "His penis and brain gets to experience untold pleasure, while I'm stuck on the sidelines" - are you serious with this? "His penis and brain gets to experience untold pleasure" ??? o_O I'm not going to say what recent current event that this reminds me of, but holy shit. Get a grip.
 

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There, there, Laird. Don't feel too bad. I'm also an ugly bastard who hobbies in order to bed women that are "out of his league". You're not the only one. It's just that there's plenty of other reasons to see SPs and there's no need to project. You and me though, eh? Ya ugly git!
 

legmann

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never fails to amaze me that because someone finds themselves unattractive they assume every man who hobbies is equally unattractive.
Agreed. Only serves to perpetuate the stereotype.


we live in an era of immediate gratification.
The best answer. We hobby becasue we can.

Me, I started (years ago) largely to satisfy 'interests' I was not going to get with any conventional girls (anal sex, for one, as well as certain fetishes now considered mainstream). In fact, for the longest time, I only sought out SP's to engage in these activities, and not at all for the conventional GFE menu so widely available now.
Regular sex, I could get.

Today, though, with hobbying more mainstream, more selection/information than ever before, and a bigger wallet, I do it simply because I can.
 
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zefroggy

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First, who are you lying to. I personally do not go around doing small talk about hobby.

Second, I agree with legmann in the sense that:
1- we can
2- I get to enjoy non-mainstream sexual experiences with amazing girls

Third, I love rush it gives me. Waiting for the room number. Passing the hotel receptionist or lobby attendant. Knocking at the door and seeing her face. Waiting in my room for the knock. I love it!!!
 

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They always give the same reasons:

"I don't want to be tied down."
"I don't want to fake commitment just to get a girl to sleep with me."
"I'm shy and lack confidence."
"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

Just lol. Makes about as much sense as saying you pay your mechanic to leave. The real reason men pay (in the vast majority of cases)... *drum roll*... we can't get hot girls for free. In fact, most of us can't even get semi-cute ones. And what's wrong with that? A woman's choice of man is not a reflection on the self-worth of the man, nor on the men she did not choose. Just their faces.

My attitude when I first got into this hobby: "Wait, so the pretty boy with the narrow eyes, small nose, and flat profile gets to fuck 6's and above, while I'm stuck with 3's and below? His penis and brain gets to experience untold pleasure, while I'm stuck on the sidelines? Just because of some trivial facial dimensions? That's bullshit. I'm taking ownership of my sex life". And that's why I pay. :)
Don't be so jaded brother and undermine yourself and ability. I agree looks has a lot to do with it but there are other things that women really like like confidence, originality, uniqueness...ect. Many people go ugly when they let them self go physically, mentally and spiritually. All guys like to fuck as many pussy as possible. This is a fact and we can never take away this blessing bestowed upon us.

The reason why I pay because I really dig this hobby and find connection with industry girls on top of my primal urge to fuck pussy. When I was 10 years old I had a sign and saw myself in a shower with many beautiful naked women. When I was in university I started flavouring SPs even though I did not have a problem finding dates..I just find civie women boring. After university I picked off a girl from adult finder and dated her heavy for 5 years and she was a sex freak. I settled to marry a civie woman because I needed to disguise my urge for industry women and be "normal". Now I am married and have a craving for industry women and flavour them at my choosing.

It's not all about sex for some even thought guys are programmed like this. Don't u devalue yourself like this. You can do it...whatever you choose or get the girls that are 7and 8 maybe even higher. You just need to work at it...work out,read books, get in touch with your spiritual side be a guy play sports, kick some ass and most importantly be well rounded.

I am franky sick of listening to jaded and cynical hobby brothers undervalue them self and box them self in. There is a lot more to this hobby then just fucking!
 
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