Why do pooners lie about their reason for hobbying?

[Laird]

They always give the same reasons:

"I don't want to be tied down."
"I don't want to fake commitment just to get a girl to sleep with me."
"I'm shy and lack confidence."
"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

Just lol. Makes about as much sense as saying you pay your mechanic to leave. The real reason men pay (in the vast majority of cases)... *drum roll*... we can't get hot girls for free. In fact, most of us can't even get semi-cute ones. And what's wrong with that? A woman's choice of man is not a reflection on the self-worth of the man, nor on the men she did not choose. Just their faces.

My attitude when I first got into this hobby: "Wait, so the pretty boy with the narrow eyes, small nose, and flat profile gets to fuck 6's and above, while I'm stuck with 3's and below? His penis and brain gets to experience untold pleasure, while I'm stuck on the sidelines? Just because of some trivial facial dimensions? That's bullshit. I'm taking ownership of my sex life". And that's why I pay.

 

[TeasePlease]

Most guys have enough game to bed a girl (maybe not 8s and up, but....)

but many guys are also just too lazy and/or impatient.

we live in an era of immediate gratification.

but seriously, I can get super hot girls. I just can't get them to leave. They never get enough of the TP D.

 

[Butler1000]

I don't lie. I'm in a great relationship. I'm just a bastard who every once in a while likes to have hot monkey sex with a young spinner.

I've had offers for free too. And took some up. Some of these ladies like older guys. I've had girls say so me when I say I'm married they don't care. But in the end I want to keep my SO so I remove the "drama" aspect with the hobby.

Of course I probably couldn't get some of these ladies. So what? Its an attraction thing when it has happened. Can't be explained. Just like with a great session chemistry is key.

 

[Butler1000]

never fails to amaze me that because someone finds themselves unattractive they assume every man who hobbies is equally unattractive.

bizarre.

Thank you Jess. As usual you get it.

 

[DB123]

I don't lie. I'm in a great relationship. I'm just a bastard who every once in a while likes to have hot monkey sex with a young spinner.

I've had offers for free too. And took some up. Some of these ladies like older guys. I've had girls say so me when I say I'm married they don't care. But in the end I want to keep my SO so I remove the "drama" aspect with the hobby.

Of course I probably couldn't get some of these ladies. So what? Its an attraction thing when it has happened. Can't be explained. Just like with a great session chemistry is key.

Other than the 'older' part, that pretty much sums it up for me too.

 

[anon1]

It's not lying, it's rationalizing.
Lying is when we know the truth and tell something else instead.
Rationalizing is when we don't know the truth and tell something that protects our psyche.

 

[Toronto`s Finest]

They always give the same reasons:

"I don't want to be tied down."
"I don't want to fake commitment just to get a girl to sleep with me."
"I'm shy and lack confidence."
"I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

Just lol. Makes about as much sense as saying you pay your mechanic to leave. The real reason men pay (in the vast majority of cases)... *drum roll*... we can't get hot girls for free. In fact, most of us can't even get semi-cute ones. And what's wrong with that? A woman's choice of man is not a reflection on the self-worth of the man, nor on the men she did not choose. Just their faces.

My attitude when I first got into this hobby: "Wait, so the pretty boy with the narrow eyes, small nose, and flat profile gets to fuck 6's and above, while I'm stuck with 3's and below? His penis and brain gets to experience untold pleasure, while I'm stuck on the sidelines? Just because of some trivial facial dimensions? That's bullshit. I'm taking ownership of my sex life". And that's why I pay.

THIS IS PARTIALLY TRUE ....... BUT ..... Ok, I am a male owner of agency. Many clients have asked the Escorts ... to meet the owner. So I have. I am amazed at how many Hot guys come to see the escorts. I also have heard from many of the escorts about this or that HOT client ..... SOOOOO it is NOT always the case that guys see escorts cause they are not attractive enough to hook up with pretty girls. I GET YOUR POINT. I think atleast 60% of guys are in the position that they are not attractive enough. I ALSO agree that this is not a reflection of them as persons BUT ... MORE SO a reflection of our modern Western Developed Nations standard of what is a sexy guy. Indeed is narrowly defined as the TALL HUNKY Guy ..... with a certain range of facial looks. You will find in Italy, Latin & Asian countries these standards are not strictly adhered to. For Eg : In Italy average Height of Guy= 5'8" Average Height of Girl= 5'4.5" Girl in Nightclub with 5-6" heels ( The Italian Girls love their stilletos) Girl= Height about 5'10" ..... TALLER than the average height of guy ... YET you will see in Nightclub about 30% of girls out with their Boyfriend .... standing 2-3" Taller than him. Here in North America you be lucky to see 1% of girls in Nightclub taller than their boyfriend. It would be a cold day in Hell before a North American girl would be caught in that situation

 

[thumper18474]

I once dumped a guy because he was shorter than me.

NOW THATS SHORT!!!:rofl:

 

[Jacklyn7]

After seeing this stunningly gorgeous young stud, I had to ask.. he said girls (civvies) his age (he was considerably younger) are awful in bed. They do the whole dead fish thing, expecting him to do all the work. There are LOADS of reasons why men hobby, and laying perfect 10's/outta their league is far from the only reason.

never fails to amaze me that because someone finds themselves unattractive they assume every man who hobbies is equally unattractive.

bizarre.

 

[Laird]

THIS IS PARTIALLY TRUE ....... BUT ..... Ok, I am a male owner of agency. Many clients have asked the Escorts ... to meet the owner. So I have. I am amazed at how many Hot guys come to see the escorts. I also have heard from many of the escorts about this or that HOT client ..... SOOOOO it is NOT always the case that guys see escorts cause they are not attractive enough to hook up with pretty girls. I GET YOUR POINT. I think atleast 60% of guys are in the position that they are not attractive enough. I ALSO agree that this is not a reflection of them as persons BUT ... MORE SO a reflection of our modern Western Developed Nations standard of what is a sexy guy. Indeed is narrowly defined as the TALL HUNKY Guy ..... with a certain range of facial looks. You will find in Italy, Latin & Asian countries these standards are not strictly adhered to. For Eg : In Italy average Height of Guy= 5'8" Average Height of Girl= 5'4.5" Girl in Nightclub with 5-6" heels ( The Italian Girls love their stilletos) Girl= Height about 5'10" ..... TALLER than the average height of guy ... YET you will see in Nightclub about 30% of girls out with their Boyfriend .... standing 2-3" Taller than him. Here in North America you be lucky to see 1% of girls in Nightclub taller than their boyfriend. It would be a cold day in Hell before a North American girl would be caught in that situation

Doesn't surprise me. I've befriended hot guys before, and one thing they complain about is girls making them wait weeks, or even months, before sex. Not something I can relate to personally (as girls always rejected me in the first few milliseconds), but I understand how it would be frustrating.

Also, at least 95% of girls at any given time aren't sexually available to anyone, including hot guys. For example, my very good looking friend from NYC admits he has to approach countless girls before finding one who's interested. But he's not being rejected for his looks. He's being rejected because these girls aren't looking to meet guys period.

However, I don't believe the above situations apply to most guys - most pooners. Most of us could spend all our free time chasing tail and still get nowhere. It's like you said: if a guy doesn't fit that very specific mold, he's s.o.l. Everything from his midface length to jaw angle better be ON POINT. Otherwise it's incelville for him.

Men who say looks don't matter generally suck at judging male looks. They see any young lean guy and automatically think, "He's a decent looking fellow. He must do okay for himself." But you and I know girls judge much, much more harshly than that. Eyebrows not perfectly straight? Ew, yuck! And there are no "types," because all girls think the same way.

Anywhere is better than North America. However, due to the world becoming increasingly globalized, even Eastern European girls are starting to become quite picky from what I hear. Who knows? Maybe there are still remote towns where getting a looks-matched girl is still possible for an average guy. Towns where girls don't have 24/7 access to social networking, their iPhones, and an endless line of male models waiting to do their bidding.

As far height, I'm a legit 6'2.75" at my lowest, and it's never gotten me anything. Maybe if I were 6'5"...? *shrugs* Though being short is certainly one reason a guy might get rejected.

 

[Toronto`s Finest]

I'm 5'1" ... so I can wear heels with anyone

except him ... he was really freakin short.

Plus he had bad toenails.

REALLY ..... how short was " freakin short " ??? You are 5'1" . Was he shorter or You just GOTTA have a guy that is seen as the BIG HUNKY Guy ... as Big as or bigger than average guys. If he is a few inches taller THAN YOU ..... does this still turn you off cause he is SHORTER than average guys????
..... Plus you back up my claim North American & many Developed Nations Girls are OBSESSED with Height.
LAIRD: 6' -6'2" is the GOLD standard to Western Women as evidenced by research . Now if you are Frankinstien scarry THAT could be a detrament !!

 

[Titalian]

I once dumped a guy because he was shorter than me.

I'm 5'1" ... so I can wear heels with anyone

except him ... he was really freakin short.

Plus he had bad toenails.

Shit, what attracted you to him, to begin with ?

 

[Toronto`s Finest]

couple of things....

I'm 5'1" and he was shorter than me, somewhere around 4'10" I would guess .....and don't forget about the toenails...
I'm not North American either....

sorry to blow holes in your theory ..... I'm sure it is basically a sound one. Many women are attracted to a man capable of protecting them, providing security, and size plays a part in that

HAVE YOU BEEN TO ITALY?? I would say I have seen about a good 30% of ladies in the nightclubs taller than their guy. So obviously .... & I can say first hand.... they were not obsessed with height. Here in North America any given time in a nightclub I would be hard pressed to find .5% of ladies taller than their man when wearing heels.

 

[DB123]

HAVE YOU BEEN TO ITALY?? I would say I have seen about a good 30% of ladies in the nightclubs taller than their guy. So obviously .... & I can say first hand.... they were not obsessed with height. Here in North America any given time in a nightclub I would be hard pressed to find .5% of ladies taller than their man when wearing heels.

And?

Dude, you must be tiny to be getting this worked up.

 

[TeasePlease]

HAVE YOU BEEN TO ITALY?? I would say I have seen about a good 30% of ladies in the nightclubs taller than their guy. So obviously .... & I can say first hand.... they were not obsessed with height. Here in North America any given time in a nightclub I would be hard pressed to find .5% of ladies taller than their man when wearing heels.

it may also have something to do with charm and personality...aka swag....

 

[jen99]

it may also have something to do with charm and personality...aka swag....

Short men in European countries such as Italy carry themselves with confidence , charm and like you said swag. I have yet to meet a short confident man in Toronto except for one. I'm not saying that they are not out there just not one I've met. Another reason maybe that in general Canadian women are short or average in stature and see getting a tall guy as some kind of prize.

 

[Carmen Jonesxo]

it may also have something to do with charm and personality...aka swag....

Very true. I've dated guys shorter than me because honestly looks are secondary to me. I think being an SP makes you able to look past a person's looks. How a man presents himself (hygiene, manners, personality,etc.) are more important to me when I first meet him. Those things are what makes him attractive to me, along with confidence. There are a lot of "hunky" douchebags out there.

I have however experienced what they call "little man syndrome" with shorter guys. That's no fun to deal with as confidence is a big turn on for me and I think most women. Maybe that could be a reason women say no to the short guys lol

 

[Titalian]

it may also have something to do with charm and personality...aka swag....

Yup, and coupled also, with a good sense of humour!!

 

[DanJ]

First of all ... this was many years ago ... I was working in a strip club and he was sitting on a barstool when he asked me out. He was cute, had a nice personality, etc. When he stood up I noticed the height difference. Didn't bother me at first....

maybe it had more to do with the toenails than the height

At what point in this relationship did you discover the toenails? lol.

I get a pedi done every month btw, and you already know how tall and charming I am lol.

 

[D-Fens]

So because you're unatrractive you assume every guy who hobbies is just as unattractive?

Nevermind the fact that most hobbyists are married, obviously they can't be that bad of a prospect if they got a woman to marry them.

When it comes to looks, most women whether escort or civilian would probably rate me as average. and I agree, I am average. However I recently started working out again and hopefully in a few months my body will look like GSP's I'll be way above average. Hell I've already gained 3 pounds of muscle.