Men's rights group excluded from Toronto Pride parade
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The opinions on this site on this matter are a bit skewed.
Fact is there are alot of men here who are sexually frustrated/inadequate/cuckolded in loveless miserable relationships or alternately destined to be alone forever.
And there are many who gain a false sense of power and arrogant confidence from the hobby and certainly do not have positive views of women as a result.
Get the two together and you get a whole lot more "fuck the gays and their sexual liberation" and "I'm sick of these women taking over my life" shit.
Not pointing fingers at anyone in particular just a general observation of the strain of bitterness whenever I see subjects like this discussed here.
Fact is there are alot of men here who are sexually frustrated/inadequate/cuckolded in loveless miserable relationships or alternately destined to be alone forever.
And there are many who gain a false sense of power and arrogant confidence from the hobby and certainly do not have positive views of women as a result.
Get the two together and you get a whole lot more "fuck the gays and their sexual liberation" and "I'm sick of these women taking over my life" shit.
Not pointing fingers at anyone in particular just a general observation of the strain of bitterness whenever I see subjects like this discussed here.
Because most guys see it as funny - as long as it's not happening to them. Actually I have known many guys to laugh (afterwards) about it when it does happen to them.
No problem with that. It's not like the St. Paddy's parade or Octoberfest are fighting for rights these days (even though Irish Catholics marching through Toronto would have met more than a touch or violence 100 years ago - I don't care if they pray to the Pope but they better not rub it in my face :eyebrows
In England.... in their 20s.... without children. It's like cherry picking Inception here!
He won't give you anything even remotely relevant, that's obvious. I will though:
Wow...dumbest post in quiet a while. The mens rights movement is very relevant to homosexual men as well. After all, many gay men end up divorced with children and face the same issues as hetrosexual men...maybe even more. How many gay men would be denied custody of children as a result of being in a gay household for example. Such a dumb ass post, quite astonishing in its lack of thought. I think you should update your name to be Nobody#1
So what? How is that calculated? How many women are stay at home mums? How many income split with husbands, how many receive child support and live off it or just to a part time job. Sorry the stats do not tell the whole story. Women have more opportunities then men now, its a fact. Get into the workplace and look around.
Violence towards men is probably one of the last areas that society sees as ok. Just because "most guys see it as funny" doesn't make it right.
Kick a woman in the vulva in a movie and see the reaction of the crowd and stand back and watch the firestorm that ensues in the media.
How is OK to kick a man in the nuts in a movie, but not ok to kick a woman in the vulva?
It's a double standard and it's a double standard that needs to end.
(BTW, I used to think it was funny too, however, in the last maybe 5 years I've become much more aware of male bashing in the media and I don't think it's funny any more.)
And how many gay men are part of or have expressed support for MRA bullshit? Yeah. Thought so. But by all means, find us a token one or two somewhere. If the GOP could do it in their attempts to appropriate MLK and the civil rights movement, it shouldn't be too hard to attempt and fail in a similar way with this.
Why, you're right. It's all so clear to me. After all, men are forbidden by law to stay at home and raise the kids. No, wait. That's silly. It's not law. It's just that they are too important to stall their careers in such a way. And it's not like the wife's job earns as much or is as important, really. Lucky devils! All that opportunity, you see.
When a heterosexual marriage breaks up, the women are seen as victims, the men are seen as wallets. Any children involved invariably end up with the mother and the father's role is reduced to McDonald's on Saturday.
I remember a few years ago CBC Cross Country Checkup, their Father's Day programme was "Deadbeat Dads." Happy Father's Day.
Why are you making this connection? It's a false one. I'm about to be consigned by my government, if it gets its' way, to be destined to be alone forever. I don't see escorts because it gives me a sense of power or domination or whatever. I see escorts because I'm lonely and I miss a women's touch. This is almost like the all Johns are perverts line right of the Conservative playbook.
True, true. If women had any real wage and career equality, and more men were stay-at-home dads, this would be greatly reduced. Didn't peg you for a feminist, but good point.
Yes but we are talking about two different things here. Where did my views on the incoming laws enter the equation. Nor an I accusing anyone specifically to fall into either of these categories.
Do you not see though that there are many here who seem to have this attitude? Homophobia bordering on a strange sexual envy and a general mistrust of women.
Firstly you have no idea how many gay men are part of the MRA, but the issues are not hetro exclusive. Men are not forbidden by law, but social norms are much less accepting of men staying at home. Only an ignoramus would make a statement like that. Why don't you go anywhere and see who is pushing the strollers. Most women CHOOSE to stay at home with their kids, it is the natural order that has been put in place by nature (in case you didn't notice men cannot breast feed) and millions of years of reality is difficult to change. Also, most women are very happy to be with their kids and chose to do it. But you cannot expect no financial or career hit if you take time off from your career.
In many counties men are compelled to do military service while women are not. This leads to major economic disadvantages to men. Even in the tennis world. Women make the same money for playing 3 sets while men have to play 5 in the slams WTF is this nonsense. Not to mention if they had to compete with men there would be ZERO female professional tennis players.... or athletes lol....
contrary to feminist propaganda women engage in slut shaming more than men.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html?ref=science?src=dayp&_r=2&
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/19/science/a-cold-war-fought-by-women.html?ref=science?src=dayp&_r=2&
Of course they do, and most women prefer to work for male supervisors then female. Men love sluts, we venerate them. lol.
Who cares if you are gay? - Certainly not the voters of Ontario.
And that's a good thing.
Do gays now have the same rights and opportunities as straights? If they do, then perhaps pride has achieved its goal, but I still like watching the parade.
"I long for a return to the time when straight white males had all the power; instead of just most of it." Stan Smith, American Dad
You don't like Pride, you hate Maggie's...are you sure you're in the right business because these orgs should be your allies.
Check it out:
https://www.eventbrite.ca/e/worldpride-2014-parade-tickets-6857550117
The page is for this year's parade but I hope you apply to march or for a float next year. Huge live audience, lots of media coverage... and that's what you say you want.
