Preliminary inquiry commits James Forcillio to stand trial for 2nd degree murder.

[rafterman]

http://news.ca.msn.com/top-stories/officer-to-stand-trial-in-sammy-yatim-death-2

"The standard for committing someone to trial after a preliminary inquiry is whether there is evidence by which a reasonable, properly instructed jury could convict them — different than the guilty beyond a reasonable doubt standard at trial." Evidence sealed at this point although the cell phone video of the shooting had to be a big part of why the judge ruled the case is going to trial sometime in 2015.

 

[BlueLaser]

Where are all the people saying cops are above the law, judges and lawyers always side with them and no one will ever go to trial for anything?

 

[destillat]

Where are all the people saying cops are above the law, judges and lawyers always side with them and no one will ever go to trial for anything?

If there wasn't a video this news article wouldn't even have existed... eyewitness accounts would have been ignored and he would be back on the streets with a gun.

 

[blackrock13]

Where are all the people saying cops are above the law, judges and lawyers always side with them and no one will ever go to trial for anything?

Shhhhhhh!! They'll surface soon enough, queue Nuttyboi.

 

[blackrock13]

So the inquiry has stated that JF will go to trial for the charges he's been accused of. Wow.

A large number of members thought this wouldn't happen. Then again, there are some on here who believe if he's found guilty, his sentence should be spent in General Population,

 

[blackrock13]

Such as? I recall more members saying that a 2nd degree murder charge will not hold up in trial, not that there will never be a trial.

Then you have a better memory than I.

 

[blackrock13]

I believe the argument was that it is impossible to prove that JF had any malice towards SY, because JF was there as a part of his job as a police officer. Anyways, we`ll see what happens.

and that`s why the 2nd degree charge for sure.

Six posts in, Nuttyboi was claiming the the whole thing would be whitewashed and swept under the carpet. He went downhill from there after buffing off his Magic 8 Ball.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...race-shot-by-police&highlight=James+Forcillio

 

[rafterman]

Are you saying that prosecutors charged JF with this knowing that it will be difficult (if not impossible) to convict?

Isn't this the point of the preliminary inquiry committing the charge to trial?

 

[blackrock13]

Are you saying that prosecutors charged JF with this knowing that it will be difficult (if not impossible) to convict?

No, they charged him based on the facts at hand.

 

[blackrock13]

Sure, but imagine the outrage if they decided that JF could not, for whatever reason, be charged with 2nd degree murder?



So you're saying that the prosecution found fault with the way JF conducted himself during this incident?

Since I don't have all the evidence in front of me, i can't answer that properly.

 

[blackrock13]

Pretty hard to charge someone with 2nd degree murder if you thought their actions were justified, don'tcha think? No need for an answer.

I'll let the real lawyers answer that one. Nuttyboi and FUJI need not reply.

 

[lewd]

Me thinks this is purely for optics...he'll likely walk.

 

[blackrock13]

Me thinks this is purely for optics...he'll likely walk.

So you have no faith in our legal system? Sure lets just waste $2.5 million dollar for a show.

 

[elise]

So you have no faith in our legal system? Sure lets just waste $2.5 million dollar for a show.

Ok. I'll bite.

Who told you it would cost $2.5 million?

 

[nottyboi]

Of course the show needs to go on. If they really wanted to convict him, the judge would say the 2nd degree would not stand at this point and the crown would have been FORCED to change the charge to Criminal Negligence or Manslaughter. Those are 2 charges on which there is actually a risk of conviction. 2nd degree, zero risk of conviction. Guaranteed walk. 2.5M for a show? You really think they care about 2.5M? BWAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

 

[blackrock13]

Ok. I'll bite.

Who told you it would cost $2.5 million?

You don't seriously expect him to answer that, do you?

It's a well known figure offered up for the average cost of a capital case in Canada and most recently, a conservative guess in a Waterloo regional murder trial. Yes, we don't know the exact cost, but an average is a good start.

Robert Picton's trail cost in excess of $70 million.

Also mentioned in past threads about murder cases and death penalty case.


DB's opinion isn't always on the mark,

 

[elise]

You don't seriously expect him to answer that, do you?

Actually he probably would, claiming it to be the truth by some convoluted logic only a troll could understand.

 

[blackrock13]

Of course the show needs to go on. If they really wanted to convict him, the judge would say the 2nd degree would not stand at this point and the crown would have been FORCED to change the charge to Criminal Negligence or Manslaughter. Those are 2 charges on which there is actually a risk of conviction. 2nd degree, zero risk of conviction. Guaranteed walk. 2.5M for a show? You really think they care about 2.5M? BWAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

How's your accident reconstruction coming along?

 

[blackrock13]

Actually he probably would, claiming it to be the truth by some convoluted logic only a troll could understand.

Feel free too offer up a better estimate. Then again, DB wasn't around during the death penalty threads

 

[elise]

See I told you. Conjecture, nothing but conjecture.