The $100,000 Club: Who's Really Making The Big Money These Days

shack

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For some people making good money in the private economy is great but making good money in the public domain is bad.


Naive, stupid or ideological. You choose.
Nobody here is more ideological than you and you are lumping it with naive and stupid. :rofl:

Nobody could set you up better than you just did to yourself.
 

JohnLarue

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Teachers DO NOT get a pay cheque during the summer months when they are not working.
If you say so
So $85K is paid over 9 1/2 months, what's the difference.?
It is still $85 K extorted from the taxpayer
They are still getting too much for 12 months work, let alone 9 1/2 months work
 

groggy

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Nobody here is more ideological than you and you are lumping it with naive and stupid. :rofl:

Nobody could set you up better than you just did to yourself.
Is your plan to pay public sector workers much less then private sector so that our schools and services are provided only by people who couldn't get better paying jobs in the private sector?
 

JohnLarue

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For some people making good money in the private economy is great but making good money in the public domain is bad.


Naive, stupid or ideological. You choose.
You are the Naïve one if you think you can sell that pile of steaming bullshit

In the private economy one makes over $100K only if you provide a unique and in demand skill set & only if you create value i.e. you deliver revenue.
One achieves this level only after proving your worth over many years

If you do not produce, it is goodbye

In the public sector your comp is determined by union blackmail, you make a $100K if you put the years in regardless of the value produced
Individuals who do not really create any value can skate through by knowing the union rules or i.e. everyone is PROTECTED
The priority of interests are 1. The union 2. The employee 3. Public receiving the service. 4 The government ...........dead last The taxpayer
If you do not produce, not a whole is going to happen

You are naive if you think anyone buys what you posted, and you are stupid because you refuse to ignore your ideology when applying reason
 

JohnLarue

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The problem with these reports is that many people dont try to see beyond their noses. All they see is a list of names of people who make more more than they do, and immediately stop thinking. Geez, theres CEOs of big companies that make way more for doing way less but you dont see people pointing fingers and crying "evil"!
That's is a foolish argument
I have a choice not to buy the products of those companies & their salaries are determined by the shareholders
I do not have a choice and I am forced to pay taxes to cover what corrupt and self-serving unions extort from my government

Finally comparing a CEOs work to a public sector union employees work displays yor true ignorance of any business sense
Very few people can do what CEOs can
Replacing a union member .... not so tough
 

Lovehobby

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Teachers make 1.05 more than people with the same educational requirements.That is because they have a strong union.

Want to make more money? Here are a couple of tips.

1) Stay in school and study hard.

2) Join or start or support strong unions in your workplace.
 

JohnLarue

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Is your plan to pay public sector workers much less then private sector so that our schools and services are provided only by people who couldn't get better paying jobs in the private sector?
No the plan is not to throw taxpayers money away
Lots of people waiting to obtain a teachers position @ $ 85K
There will still be lots @ $65 - $70K
 

Lovehobby

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That's is a foolish argument
I have a choice not to buy the products of those companies & their salaries are determined by the shareholders
I do not have a choice and I am forced to pay taxes to cover what corrupt and self-serving unions extort from my government

Finally comparing a CEOs work to a public sector union employees work displays yor true ignorance of any business sense
Very few people can do what CEOs can
Replacing a union member .... not so tough
Really? Try teplacing a union carpenter or a union plumber or a union doctor.
 

JohnLarue

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Teachers make 1.05 more than people with the same educational requirements.That is because they have a strong union.

Want to make more money? Here are a couple of tips.

1) Stay in school and study hard.

2) Join or start or support strong unions in your workplace.
That 1.05 is not correct
More like 1.30 - 1.5 after adjusting for the gold plated pension plan & the 2 1/2 months vacation & a quitting time of 3:16
 

JohnLarue

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Really? Try teplacing a union carpenter or a union plumber or a union doctor.
Realtive to replacing a CEO?
Again you know not what you speak

If a union carpenter / plumber are hard to replace that is the unions doing
A doctor is not what I consider a union man ie. they have integrity & will always place the interest of their patients first
 

JohnLarue

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If anyone thinks the health and education systems are not pillars of the economy they are as thick as 2 short planks.
If allowed to be mismanaged by unions those pillars can also become anvils around the neck of an economy
You are so one dimensional in your thinking
 

Lovehobby

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Alberta is the most conservative province in Canada. They pay teachers more than Ontario and way more than BC.

Game set match.
 

blackrock13

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Alberta is the most conservative province in Canada. They pay teachers more than Ontario and way more than BC.

Game set match.
Do they get a better education as a result for that money spend? The NWT territories pay more than anywhere else, $15,000 more than Alberta.
 

JohnLarue

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Alberta is the most conservative province in Canada. They pay teachers more than Ontario and way more than BC.

Game set match.
As usual you think one dimensionally

1. Demanding you get paid the same as others in a different province ignores the ability of a province to pay what is demanded
2. royalties from gushing oil wells in Ont might make this a moot point, however that is not the case, Ontario is going broke paying Teachers & other union parasites way too much
3. What someone else pays is not relevant
4. why do teachers in Chad & Senegal not get the same as Teachers in Ont?
5. Why are also financing teachers retirement before the average taxpayer takes care of his / her retirement?
 

Insidious Von

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I must admit I'm loving John Larue posts, at times he makes me laugh uproariously. See folks, this is what happens when you completely buy into Ayn Rand. May I suggest the masterworks of L Ron Hubbard?

Doctors have integrity? The ones that have not become conduits for Big Pharma, sure I'll accept that. The biggest problem with our health system is too many people are over-medicated. Some doctor's offices are nothing more than cattle calls, write out the prescription -next. You can't even begin to comprehend the amount of prescribed Oxycontin available on the streets.

But don't tell our resident Randist this, he's too busy protecting the rights of the Remy Marten and Cohiba folks.
 

blackrock13

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I must admit I'm loving John Larue posts, at times he makes me laugh uproariously. See folks, this is what happens when you completely buy into Ayn Rand. May I suggest the masterworks of L Ron Hubbard?

Doctors have integrity? The ones that have not become conduits for Big Pharma, sure I'll accept that. The biggest problem with our health system is too many people are over-medicated. Some doctor's offices are nothing more than cattle calls, write out the prescription -next. You can't even begin to comprehend the amount of prescribed Oxycontin available on the streets.

But don't tell our resident Randist this, he's too busy protecting the rights of the Remy Marten and Cohiba folks.
You might want to check any of the trust/integrity study. Doctor rate quite high. You could start here.

Source: Harris Interactive
Sept. 2006


Selected Results

"Would you generally trust each of the following types of people to tell the truth, or not?"
Doctors — 85%-Would Trust
12%-Would Not Trust
3%-Not Sure/No Answer


Police officers — 76%-Would Trust
21%-Would Not Trust
3%-Not Sure/No Answer


Professors — 75%-Would Trust
19%-Would Not Trust
6%-Not Sure/No Answer


Judges — 70%-Would Trust
24%-Would Not Trust
5%-Not Sure/No Answer


Lawyers — 27%-Would Trust
68%-Would Not Trust
5%-Not Sure/No Answer


Journalists — 39%-Would Trust
58%-Would Not Trust
3%-Not Sure/No Answer




Doctors and teachers most trusted among 22 occupations and professions. Actors and lawyers at bottom, with pollsters also fairing poorly. About half (48%) of U.S. adults generally trust that the President tells the truth -- down substantially from 65 percent in 2002. However, 12 of the 22 professions measured by The Harris Poll(R) are trusted to be truthful by 60 percent or more of U.S. adults, with doctors (85%) and teachers (83%) topping the list. In addition, over half of the occupations measured have seen an increase in the eyes of the general public to tell the truth when compared to 2002. This is a turnaround from four years ago when most occupations saw a decrease in feeling about truthfulness.
These are some of the results of The Harris Poll(R) conducted by telephone between July 7 and 10, 2006, by Harris Interactive(R) among a nationwide sample of 1,002 U.S. adults.


In addition to doctors and teachers, those rounding out the top five of generally trusted occupations and professions are scientists (77%), police officers (76%) and professors (75%). Conversely, the five occupations that are least trusted to be truthful include actors (26%), lawyers (27%), stockbrokers (29%), trade union leaders (30%) and opinion pollsters (34%).


Specifically the survey found the following changes in responses since 2002:


* In the past four years the occupations that have received the largest increase in the percentage of U.S. adults who trust that they tell the truth are accountants (up 13 percentage points from 55% in 2002 to the current 68%), bankers (up 11 percentage points to 62%), clergymen or priests (an increase of 10 percentage points to 74%), and scientists (up nine percentage points to 77%). Doctors and military officers have also shown increases. Doctors rose eight points to the current 85 percent, and military officers also increased eight points to 72 percent.


* Others that have shown more modest positive change include police officers (up seven percentage points to 76%), stockbrokers (up six percentage points to 29%), judges (up five percentage points to 70%), teachers (up three percentage points to 83%) and lawyers (up three percentage points to 27%).


* Those who have shown the most substantial drop are the President (a decrease of 17 percentage points from 65% in 2002 to a current 48%) and public opinion pollsters (a drop of 10 points to 34%). Others that had a more modest decrease are civil servants (a drop of three points to 62%) and TV newscasters (down two points to 44%).


* Those that have shown little or no change in the past four years are professors (75%), the ordinary man or woman (66%), journalists (39%), members of Congress (35%), and trade union leaders (30%).


http://www.lexisone.com/balancing/articles/090006i.html

Clearly many more people think differently than you.
 

shack

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Is your plan to pay public sector workers much less then private sector so that our schools and services are provided only by people who couldn't get better paying jobs in the private sector?
You have a wonderful imagination.

All I said was how hypocritical loveharper was to lump ideology in with stupid and naive. Nobody posts more than he does to push his ideologically driven agenda.
 

JohnLarue

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I must admit I'm loving John Larue posts, at times he makes me laugh uproariously. See folks, this is what happens when you completely buy into Ayn Rand. May I suggest the masterworks of L Ron Hubbard?

Doctors have integrity? The ones that have not become conduits for Big Pharma, sure I'll accept that. The biggest problem with our health system is too many people are over-medicated. Some doctor's offices are nothing more than cattle calls, write out the prescription -next. You can't even begin to comprehend the amount of prescribed Oxycontin available on the streets.

But don't tell our resident Randist this, he's too busy protecting the rights of the Remy Marten and Cohiba folks.
It is suppose to be funny sometimes & I do get carried away on occasion
But some of the stuff that is posted here is too much

Do not have a clue who this Rand broad is, nor do I care

Doctors , well I do not recall doctors threatening to strike or threatening to exclude certain procedures until their demands are met
that is integrity, relatively speaking
 

Insidious Von

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Really!....never stop posting.

Most of your posts smack of crackpot Randist philosophy. I read Atlas Shrugged, it is a sloppy comedy. About all I learned from the book is that she likes rough sex. I couldn't remember the lead character's name in the book I had to look it up. It's not John Laurie it's John Galt, you may want to consider changing your handle.

The best democracy is one that blends economic liberalism with a proactive social safety net. Free markets with the protection needed to look after the most vulnerable. American CEO's make five times more than their Japanese and South Korean counterparts, that simply isn't right.

And Blackie, thanks for the data. But I'm a man of the streets, I know what I see. For example %50+ of automotive assembly line workers are addicted to Oxycontin, the car companies have a huge problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sl10b20SoA
 

blackrock13

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Really!....never stop posting.

Most of your posts smack of crackpot Randist philosophy. I read Atlas Shrugged, it is a sloppy comedy. About all I learned from the book is that she likes rough sex. I couldn't remember the lead character's name in the book I had to look it up. It's not John Laurie it's John Galt, you may want to consider changing your handle.

The best democracy is one that blends economic liberalism with a proactive social safety net. Free markets with the protection needed to look after the most vulnerable. American CEO's make five times more than their Japanese and South Korean counterparts, that simply isn't right.

And Blackie, thanks for the data. But I'm a man of the streets, I know what I see. For example %50+ of automotive assembly line workers are addicted to Oxycontin, the car companies have a huge problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sl10b20SoA
Man of the streets, whatever that means? Do you sleep in shelters? Although it might explains a lot. Makes me think of that old celtic saying, 'don't confuse me with the facts, I've already made up my mind'. 50% of auto assembly line workers are on Oxy? Most people would realize the problems in the auto industry is a multi faceted and a deeper problem than drugs.
 
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