You were talking about Gaza, idiot.It is based on race in Syria and Lebanon.
I was talking about all the camps outside Jordan. Jordan kicked out the PLO and normalized their status. Everywhere else the camp dwellers are second class.You were talking about Gaza, idiot.
Clearly you don't give a fuck about them, or you would be arguing for Israel to honour their right of return and allow them back or give them legit restitution.Clearly you do not give a flying fuck about Palestinians. It is reprehensible what the Arabs have done to them! Don't you even care?
Only about 30,000 have a right of return and I have agreed that upon signing a peace treaty they ought to be able to.Clearly you don't give a fuck about them, or you would be arguing for Israel to honour their right of return and allow them back or give them legit restitution.
Instead you're just backing shooting Palestinian children, establishing an Apartheid state and committing war crimes.
Clearly you are a racist sicko.
They have provided what was supposed to be temporary humanitarian aid for almost 70 years now.Again, you are changing the topic and squirming away from discussing the way the Arab nations and the PLO abuse these people.
They have not, UNRWA provides the aid, with US and EU money. Thank the Americans.They have provided what was supposed to be temporary humanitarian aid for almost 70 years now.
They should be celebrated for their humanitarian actions as opposed to Israel's pariah state attitude and refusals to abide by UN resolutions for over half a century.
The one state solution has not been packaged and sold to the sheeple. If it is proposed in the right manner by the right leadership and $upported by the US their minds will change. For example - if Israel does not agree to a one state solution, the US will end all military and economic support......The Palestinians and Israelis are overwhelmingly opposed to a one state solution. You've preached democracy to criticize the US and Canada. Why do you suddenly refuse to accept the democratic rights of the Israelis and Palestinians?
Right, back to accusing the PLO of racism on their own people.They have not, UNRWA provides the aid, with US and EU money. Thank the Americans.
What the PLO has done in combination with the Arab league is prevent those people from settling, deny them status, prevent then from using the same hospitals and schools as others, prevent them from applying for jobs.
Why don't you ask him to comment on Palestinian refugees?I’m glad people have come to have this disgust about apartheid and one wants to acknowledge just how much we were supported by the international community. But surely if I, having experienced apartheid go to another part of the world and see things that reflect almost uncannily the sort of things that happened to us – I mean you could be stopped as a black person by police at roadblocks and it didn’t matter. I was bishop of Johannesburg when police would stop our car and want to body-search my wife and children … and I go and I visit the Holy Land and I see things that are a mirror image of the sort of things I experienced under the apartheid. How can you stop me from the right to describe as I feel? You go anywhere in the world and if I see things that mirror the kind of experience that I know first hand I think it’s a cheek in a way for someone else to tell you ‘no you are wrong in feeling as you feel about what you have seen.
The Palestinians want a Palestinian state. The Israelis want an Israeli state. That's how democracy should work. There is polling data out there that shows how little support a one state solution has among Palestinians and among Israelis.The one state solution has not been packaged and sold to the sheeple. If it is proposed in the right manner by the right leadership and $upported by the US their minds will change. For example - if Israel does not agree to a one state solution, the US will end all military and economic support......
Your hatred for Palis keeps you fanning the hatred. I don't think it should be imposed on anyone, but many Palis want the right of return. WTF do you think that means?The Palestinians want a Palestinian state. The Israelis want an Israeli state. That's how democracy should work. There is polling data out there that shows how little support a one state solution has among Palestinians and among Israelis.
Too bad your hatred has you trying to subvert the desires of the Palestinians and Israelis.
The PLO abuses them for cynical reasons. It is a continuation of the policy of asking Arabs to reject Jewish rule by leaving in 48. That want to herd as many people as possible into camps to try and put pressure on Israel.Right, back to accusing the PLO of racism on their own people.
And how does the PLO force them to do this?The PLO abuses them for cynical reasons.... In EVERY SINGLE POST you flail around trying to discuss Israel instead.
By making it illegal for Palestinians in the camps to gain status.And how does the PLO force them to do this?
Illegal in what court of law?By making it illegal for Palestinians in the camps to gain status.
The Lebanese, Syrian, and Palestinian Authority law courts. They have made it illegal for the camp dwellers to gain status in the country of their birth, their parents birth, grandparents birth. As a result they cannot own property, hold jobs, access normal schools and hospitals.Illegal in what court of law?
Oh it see.The Lebanese, Syrian, and Palestinian Authority law courts. They have made it illegal for the camp dwellers to gain status in the country of their birth, their parents birth, grandparents birth. As a result they cannot own property, hold jobs, access normal schools and hospitals. In Lebanon, for example, a third generation Palestinian cannot own the home they grew up in and live in, cannot leave it to their children. It becomes the property of the State when they die or move, ensuring that the Palestinian family remains locked in poverty with no means to amass wealth or savings assuming that they overcome the anti Palestinian employment laws. The camps in Lebanon are essentially decaying prisons.
They are permanent persons. They are third generation Lebanese, but they are kept in prison and subjected to violence and extreme discrimination by their Arab captors. It is systemic cradle to grave exploitative discrimination against a second class that, if you accept that Palestinians are a people, is brutal, racist apartheid.You want to make them into permanent prisons in order to avoid Israel having to fulfill their legal and moral obligations.
Yes, Israeli ethnic cleansing and apartheid has caused horrible situations in Israel and around as well.They are permanent persons. They are third generation Lebanese, but they are kept in prison and subjected to violence and extreme discrimination by their Arab captors. It is systemic cradle to grave exploitative discrimination against a second class that, if you accept that Palestinians are a people, is brutal, racist apartheid. I do think that their grandparents should be compensated for lost property, which compensation they could leave to their heirs, probably their children or whoever else they choose. That does not excuse Lebanese apartheid.
