Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 hijacked, official says

GPIDEAL

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Looks like they have found the final resting place of MH370, in the northern part the southern Indian Ocean. Still wondering why there was no debris field, and if it went down and did not explode how could that possibly be? Is it possible not to crash into the ocean, and have the plane stay in tact while it sinks?
As of last night on CNN, nobody said 'final resting place'.

After one month, most debris was widely scattered and would've sank to the bottom is my guess.
 

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At this point, it's a wing and a prayer. Batteries are probably dead by now. They'd be better off doing sonar traces of the ocean bed looking for the fuselage.
I am curious about the tolerances on those batteries. I would expect a battery guaranteed to provide 30 days of power to be over engineered, and most likely exceed that guarantee by 20 percent or more in the field.

Not so?
 

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A largely-intact plane is one of the two most likely reasons for no debris. A nose-dive is another possibility. Alien abduction still isn't off the table.
Serious question. Have you seen UFO 's During air time? If so what is done?.. Are strange objects/lights reported? To whom and what's the follow up?
 

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Australian news networks are claiming that #MH370 black box has been found - Prime Minister Tony Abbott is in China at the moment and is due to make an announcement in a little over 30 minutes
 

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The Australian PM is very confident they pick up signals from the black box, he didn't say the found it. Two weeks ago
he also said very confident they found somethings too. :rolleyes:
 

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Totally agree. Water-logged too if anything was capable of floating at first.
I didn't see fuji's post because I no longer see any of his posts, but when something like this comes up, they do go back to the archived satellite footage to look for anything. The day of the crash they would probably find some semblance of debris if there was any debris on the surface at the time. Perhaps they have and haven't shared it, or perhaps the aircraft didn't break apart.
 

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I didn't see fuji's post because I no longer see any of his posts, but when something like this comes up, they do go back to the archived satellite footage to look for anything. The day of the crash they would probably find some semblance of debris if there was any debris on the surface at the time. Perhaps they have and haven't shared it, or perhaps the aircraft didn't break apart.
They would have to have high resolution satellite images to go back to. They might not. That is not an area that would normally be targeted for satellite imaging, it is pretty remote.
 

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All areas of the world within range of geostationary satellites are targetted for satellite imagery. I know this because I can access satellite imagery for weather data everywhere except near the poles. Australia and the area around it is certainly covered. I find it hard to believe they may not have satellite data available to review.
 

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All areas of the world within range of geostationary satellites are targetted for satellite imagery. I know this because I can access satellite imagery for weather data everywhere except near the poles. Australia and the area around it is certainly covered. I find it hard to believe they may not have satellite data available to review.
What you are missing is that to see wreckage on the sea you need a high resolution image. Like a camera, most of the satellites can take pictures that are zoomed in or out, and often also can point the camera to some degree, with greater resolution directly underneath and less resolution on angles.

The areas of greatest interest are covered by more satellites and so the pictures are telescoped in more and taken on less of an angle. The areas of less interest are covered by fewer satellites so zoomed out pictures on a greater angle.

This doesn't matter for a weather map, but for spotting wreckage the images in that area may be from a greater angle and with too wide a field of view to have the resolution needed to show wreckage.

Moreover, many satellites, particularly Chinese, were tasked to focus on the search areas that were considered interesting at the time and thus these areas might have been getting less coverage then usual.
 

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Hehehe...
He is sore because after lording over us what an expert he is, he was proved dead wrong on council not having all the facts when the entire city council overwhelmingly enacted a motion essentially confirming everything I had said. After all his arrogant claims I guess his egotistical outlook couldn't take hearing "I told you so" from me. So now he is playing ostrich, hoping that nobody will know he was shown up if he doesn't see me say it.
 

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He is sore because after lording over us what an expert he is, he was proved dead wrong on council not having all the facts when the entire city council overwhelmingly enacted a motion essentially confirming everything I had said. After all his arrogant claims I guess his egotistical outlook couldn't take hearing "I told you so" from me. So now he is playing ostrich, hoping that nobody will know he was shown up if he doesn't see me say it.
Fuji and Blackcrack both have the same misconception that they have "won" an argument when somebody else decides that it is futile to argue with them any more.
 
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You and Blackcrack both have the same misconception that you have "won" an argument when somebody else decides that it is futile to argue with you any more.
Meanwhile it is a fact that council passed a motion stating that they would wait until they have all the facts, repudiating BL's silly claim that they had all the facts. He wound up calling the Deputy City Manager a liar and then having his claims smashed by council itself. No wonder he is playing ostrich now.
 

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I am curious about the tolerances on those batteries. I would expect a battery guaranteed to provide 30 days of power to be over engineered, and most likely exceed that guarantee by 20 percent or more in the field.

Not so?

That's what the experts said on CNN cadillac!
 

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You and Blackcrack both have the same misconception that you have "won" an argument when somebody else decides that it is futile to argue with you any more.
Mmm. And the fact that fuji kept changing his mind on what we were discussing, then proceeded to try and dictate what we should be allowed to discuss. Apparently, because City Council wants information from certain sources, we can't discuss the information that's plainly available since it's availability is rejected by council. Here I thought I was on a "discussion forum" where we could engage in discussion. If fuji wants to play politician, I have no desire to speak with him. There's a reason I'm not in politics, so if someone becomes nothing more than a talking head for a politician, I've lost any interest in discussing things with them. I mean, how can you have a discussion with an individual when their response, no matter what's said, is "Go talk to the City Manager." I'm not talking to the city manager, I'm talking on a forum. All the information is available, it just isn't considered "official" yet. And since people are pressuring their representatives based on what they believe based on what they hear in the media and on discussion forums, I just happened to believe they should understand the facts. The details and data for which is all available, even though Council doesn't care to believe it until some other agency confirms that companies the size of Bombardier that have conducted these tests hundreds of times on hundreds of aircraft have managed to conduct them properly.

In any case, since fuji didn't want to participate in the discussion but kept piping up, I just put him on ignore. It was like talking to a kid who puts their fingers in their ears and goes "lalalala I'm not listening". It didn't matter what data I put in front of him, what references where there, he didn't read a single thing. And don't dare ask him for a reference. It'll take 3 pages before he does, and then he'll provide a link and a quote, but the quote won't even come from that link! I'm not OCD, but I am a perfectionist, and it was the easiest way to avoid correcting him at every turn, which seems to be every other post he makes since he figures himself an expert on all subjects.
 

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So what's the latest scoop?

Are they proceeding with an unmanned submersible to scan the ocean floor with sonar? I believe that could take several weeks.
 
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