Your lack of logic is hard for anyone to follow so I backed both points. I see you haven't bothered to rebut either one.
Bibi puts poison pill in negotiations.... no deal possible now.
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You are slow. Try reading your own post for God's sake. You claimed that Palestinians had full right for 60 years....do you remember that half wit? In what way have you substantiated that?Your lack of logic is hard for anyone to follow so I backed both points. I see you haven't bothered to rebut either one.
That point has been established here over and over again.You are slow. Try reading your own post for God's sake. You claimed that Palestinians had full right for 60 years....do you remember that half wit? In what way have you substantiated that?
Yes, it's been established that you can't come up any Palestinians that say this. It's only Zionists who invent this drivel.That point has been established here over and over again.
Arabs do not have the same rights as Jews in Israel and everybody seems to know that except fuggie and basket boyThat point has been established here over and over again.
This is some propaganda you mindlessly repeat. Every time we ask you for evidence you come up short.Arabs do not have the same rights as Jews in Israel and everybody seems to know that except fuggie and basket boy
It's only Zionist's that invent this drivel. You've come up short in providing the text that says Palestinians say this. We are still waiting.This is some propaganda you mindlessly repeat. Every time we ask you for evidence you come up short.
"Of course, there are non -Jews in Israel that enjoy and will continue to enjoy equal rights. The Arab citizens of Israel vote in the Knesset and are represented in every form of life and have equal political rights." -Ali Yahya, Israeli Ambassador to GreeceIt's only Zionist's that invent this drivel. You've come up short in providing the text that says Palestinians say this. We are still waiting.
http://blogs.eliamep.gr/en/admin/br...dor-of-israel-in-greece/#sthash.M17DbNit.dpuf
I fully expect you to try and change the goal post rather then concede, because you are a hate troll, but you just lost.
A blog posting with comments from one of Netanyahu's spokespeople?"Of course, there are non -Jews in Israel that enjoy and will continue to enjoy equal rights. The Arab citizens of Israel vote in the Knesset and are represented in every form of life and have equal political rights." -Ali Yahya, Israeli Ambassador to Greece
http://blogs.eliamep.gr/en/admin/br...dor-of-israel-in-greece/#sthash.M17DbNit.dpuf
I fully expect you to try and change the goal post rather then concede, because you are a hate troll, but you just lost.
I thought you said blog's weren't credible sources?
It is a transcript of an interview with the Israeli Ambassador to Greece. He happens to be a Muslim Arab Israeli.A blog posting with comments from one of Netanyahu's spokespeople?
I thought you said blog's weren't credible sources?
The request from Gryfin was a statement from an Arab Israeli confirming that Arabs in Israel have equal rights. Here is the requested statement:
"Of course, there are non -Jews in Israel that enjoy and will continue to enjoy equal rights. The Arab citizens of Israel vote in the Knesset and are represented in every form of life and have equal political rights." -Ali Yahya, Israeli Ambassador to Greece
As an aside, the fact that Israel has Arab Israeli ambassadors, cabinet members, supreme court justices, military officers, etc., also proves the point. His existence proves the point. But it was his words that were asked for, and they have been provided.
Unlike you many Israeli Arabs are concerned with life beyond the conflict with the Palestinians and often are members of mainstream parties. Unlike in Iran or Lebanon, people aren't forced to only run or vote along religious lines. In the last election there was support for the religious Jewish party Shas from conservative Muslims and some Jews vote for Arab parties.The right to vote and sit in Knesset is useless if you are always outvoted
Of those parties those mainly focused on the conflict, yes they may lose votes. That's how democracy works. If the people don't like the government there will be another election in a couple years.
Of course on the Palestinian side, Abbas is closing in on his tenth year of his 4 year term and Hamas (kind of) is in their 8th year since the last election.
And beyond the right to vote, they can sit on the Supreme court, in the Cabinet, and in any other public role.
p.s. Still see lovey has neither admitted his OP was wrong nor has he criticized the major Palestinian factions who desire the destruction of Israel.
Not good enough. Israel must eliminate every single law that favours Jews over Arabs even if that were to result in an eventual Arab majority.If you care if Israel retains a Jewish majority you are a racist.Unlike you many Israeli Arabs are concerned with life beyond the conflict with the Palestinians and often are members of mainstream parties. Unlike in Iran or Lebanon, people aren't forced to only run or vote along religious lines. In the last election there was support for the religious Jewish party Shas from conservative Muslims and some Jews vote for Arab parties.
Of those parties those mainly focused on the conflict, yes they may lose votes. That's how democracy works. If the people don't like the government there will be another election in a couple years.
Of course on the Palestinian side, Abbas is closing in on his tenth year of his 4 year term and Hamas (kind of) is in their 8th year since the last election.
And beyond the right to vote, they can sit on the Supreme court, in the Cabinet, and in any other public role.
p.s. Still see lovey has neither admitted his OP was wrong nor has he criticized the major Palestinian factions who desire the destruction of Israel.
It is very safe to allow your 20% minority to vote no problem as long as you use your 80% majority to assure you will always be the majority. Return laws at the top of the list, are out and out racist.
There are no laws that discriminate against Arab Israeli citizens. You are dishonest. The Basic Law of Israel guarantees equality for all citizens regardless of race or religion.Not good enough. Israel must eliminate every single law that favours Jews over Arabs even if that were to result in an eventual Arab majority.If you care if Israel retains a Jewish majority you are a racist.
It is very safe to allow your 20% minority to vote no problem as long as you use your 80% majority to assure you will always be the majority. Return laws at the top of the list, are out and out racist.
Discrimination in immigration policy is something practically every nation does. Canada has all sorts of immigration policy that would be violations of our human rights laws if they were applied to citizens, such as age discrimination.
We are not a nation state, so our immigration policy is relatively open. Most nation states overtly select immigrants based on cultural, religious, linguistic standards.
You don't complain when Japan does it, you single out Israel because you hate Jews.
Yes, you say not enough because you want Israel to cease existing.Not good enough. Israel must eliminate every single law that favours Jews over Arabs even if that were to result in an eventual Arab majority.If you care if Israel retains a Jewish majority you are a racist.
It is very safe to allow your 20% minority to vote no problem as long as you use your 80% majority to assure you will always be the majority. Return laws at the top of the list, are out and out racist.
The funniest thing about your argument is it once again brings us to the Apartheid nature of the Palestinians in that you want a small segment of Israeli society to have a grossly disproportionate say over the majority based purely on their ethnicity.
Fact is that Israel is a vibrant democracy where people are not forced to act along purely ethnic lines. It is not about Jews vs. Arabs. It is about Israelis participating in the democracy and voting as they see in the best interest of themselves and the country.
Israel has strong support for a two state solution based on the Arab league plan, from Israelis of all ethnicity's. In fact one of the biggest fear that Arab Israelis have about a two state peace is they might no longer be Israeli. The fact that Arab Israelis would rather be Israeli than Palestinian speaks volumes about Israeli society.
http://imeu.net/news/article0045.shtmlThere are no laws that discriminate against Arab Israeli citizens. You are dishonest. The Basic Law of Israel guarantees equality for all citizens regardless of race or religion.
Discrimination in immigration policy is something practically every nation does. Canada has all sorts of immigration policy that would be violations of our human rights laws if they were applied to citizens, such as age discrimination.
We are not a nation state, so our immigration policy is relatively open. Most nation states overtly select immigrants based on cultural, religious, linguistic standards.
You don't complain when Japan does it, you single out Israel because you hate Jews.
Israel has many LAWS on tbe books that discriminate against Arabs.
Nope, this was already debunked last time you spammed it. You are just spamming your lies and not bothering to read the replies. You add nothing to this discussion.http://imeu.net/news/article0045.shtml
Israel has many LAWS on tbe books that discriminate against Arabs.
The only laws you were ever able to cite, such as in this link, were immigration policies, which don't even apply to Arab Israelis as they are already citizens.
The other one usually cited is the marriage law, which actually discriminates more against Jews than against Arabs.
It is a fact that the Basic Law guarantees equality and therefore no laws exist that discriminate against citizens based on race.
No doubt you at just repeating the "Russell Tribunal" propaganda (whether you know you are or not) which itself was thoroughly debunked here including by resident lawyers.
Funny but the only thing that article mentions is immigration law which has nothing to do with the rights of citizens.http://imeu.net/news/article0045.shtml
Israel has many LAWS on tbe books that discriminate against Arabs.
Care to explain the other 19 laws they claim are racist?
There you go asking LH for details.Funny but the only thing that article mentions is immigration law which has nothing to do with the rights of citizens.
Care to explain the other 19 laws they claim are racist?
