You need to prove the NYT has been unable to confirm the accuracy of the text that ran in the Daily Star. You said they don't have it, you need to prove your claim that they don't.Why didn't you provide the source again, Robbie? Leaked? In other words, not the report. Are you five years old?
Provide the link. Plus Rob, you've just admitted this is a leak and not the original text.You need to prove the NYT has been unable to confirm the accuracy of the text that ran in the Daily Star. You said they don't have it, you need to prove your claim that they don't.
They certainly published a story with definitive, authoritative statements of what the accord said. I am quite happy to say that the NYT has documented Lebanese complicity in the PLO attacks on Israel.
I am only claiming this is true:Provide the link. Plus Rob, you've just admitted this a leak and not the original text.
What you do you mean "I am only claiming this is true"? You posted this:I am only claiming this is true:
http://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/22/world/lebanese-scrap-plo-accord-barring-bases.html
"The accord with the P.L.O., known as the Cairo Agreement, was signed in the Egyptian capital in 1969 by Yasir Arafat and Gen. Emile Boustany, then commander of the Lebanese Army. It allowed the guerrillas to establish military bases in Lebanon and conduct cross border operations against Israel."
That is of course enough to prove that Lebanon started the war with Israel.
We are waiting for you to prove your clown claim about the information the NYT had in writing that story.
Where did you get this - post the link. If you don't claim this is true, then why did you post it?BTW, here's the text you say was never released:
On Monday, 3rd November 1969, the Lebanese delegation headed by Army Commander General Emile al-Bustani, and the Palestine Liberation Organization delegation, headed by Mr. Yasir 'Arafat, chairman of the organization, met in Cairo in the presence of the United Arab Republic Minister of Foreign Affairs Mahmud Riyad, and the War Minister, General Muhammad Fawzi.
In consonance with the bonds of brotherhood and common destiny, relations between Lebanon and the Palestinian revolution must always be conducted on the bases of confidence, frankness, and positive cooperation for the benefit of Lebanon and the Palestinian revolution and within the framework of Lebanon's sovereignty and security. The two delegations agreed on the following principles and measures:
The Palestinian Presence
It was agreed to reorganize the Palestinian presence in Lebanon on the following bases:
1. The right to work, residence, and movement for Palestinians currently residing in Lebanon;
2. The formation of local committees composed of Palestinians in the camps to care for the interests of Palestinians residing in these camps in cooperation with the local Lebanese authorities within the framework of Lebanese sovereignty;
3. The establishment of posts of the Palestinian Armed Struggle [PASC] inside the camps for the purpose of cooperation with the local committees to ensure good relations with the Lebanese authorities. These posts shall undertake the task of regulating and determining the presence of arms in the camps within the framework of Lebanese security and the interests of the Palestinian revolution;
4. Palestinians resident in Lebanon are to be permitted to participate in the Palestinian revolution through the Armed Struggle and in accordance with the principles of the sovereignty and security of Lebanon.
Commando Activity
It was agreed to facilitate commando activity by means of:
1. Facilitating the passage of commandos and specifying points of passage and reconnaissance in the border areas;
2. Safeguarding the road to the 'Arqub region;
3. The Armed Struggle shall undertake to control the conduct of all the members of its organizations and [to ensure] their non-interference in Lebanese affairs;
4. Establishing a joint command control of the Armed Struggle and the Lebanese Army;
5. Ending the propaganda campaigns by both sides;
6. Conducting a census of Armed Struggle personnel in Lebanon by their command.
7. Appointing Armed Struggle representatives at Lebanese Army headquarters to participate in the resolution of all emergency matters;
8. Studying the distribution of all suitable points of concentration in border areas which will be agreed with the Lebanese Army command;
9. Regulating the entry, exit, and circulation of Armed Struggle personnel;
10. Removal of the Jiyrun base.
11. The Lebanese Army shall facilitate the operation of medical, evacuation, and supply centers for commando activity;
12. Releasing detained personnel and confiscated arms;
13. It is understood that the Lebanese authorities, both civil and military, shall continue to exercise all their prerogatives and responsibilities in all areas of Lebanon in all circumstances;
14. The two delegations affirm that the Palestinian armed struggle is in the interest of Lebanon as well as in that of the Palestinian revolution and all Arabs;
15. This agreement shall remain Top Secret and for the eyes of the commands only.
Head of Lebanese delegation
Emile Bustani
Head of Palestinian delegation
Yasir 'Arafat
You are the only one obsessed with the complete text. I simply claimed the accord made Lebanon complicit in the PLO attacks that started the war with Israel, and that has been totally confirmed with credible sources linked and quoted above.What you do you mean "I am only claiming this is true"?
Give us the link to the source for the text you copied and pasted in post #277.You are the only one obsessed with the complete text. I simply claimed the accord made Lebanon complicit in the PLO attacks that started the war with Israel, and that has been totally confirmed with credible sources linked and quoted above.
You made this strong claim that the NYT doesn't have the text and I found it difficult to believe you really have any way to know that. All it would take is a single confidential source verifying to them that the Daily Star's version is accurate and they do have it. I wondered how you can prove they haven't done that?
Note: I am not claiming they have done that, just challenging your claim that they haven't. How do you know they haven't?
Why, so you can try to distract from the real topic with a side conversation about something irrelevant and pedantic?Give us the link to the source for the text you copied and pasted in post #277.
You posted it and clearly there is something wrong with this. That's why you are evading.Why, so you can try to distract from the real topic with a side conversation about something irrelevant and pedantic?
Let's return to the topic at hand: I have already proved that Lebanon started the war with Lebanon by showing with references to the NYT that Lebanon knowingly allowed the PLO to attack Israel from Lebanese territory.
Case closed.
I'm just saying that rushing to blame anyone before investigations are complete is dangerous.Iran is always blaming Israel.
If you took the time to actually read, you'd see that an AQ link group claimed responsibility. Then again, I'm sure you believe it when Iran says AQ is really Israeli.
If you haven't caught on yet the battles in Syria, Iraq, and much of the ME is a not so cold war between Sunni Saudi Arabia and Shia Iran. Not everything is about Israel. I know it's confusing for you without being able to blame the Jews but they are insignificant to the deaths in Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon.
Just like you call for everyone to wait for an investigation and not rush to blame Israel when some pallywood video is posted by some anti Israeli blog.I'm just saying that rushing to blame anyone before investigations are complete is dangerous.
Just because someone called in and claimed it was AQ doesn't make it so, nor does Iran's accusations.
Wheres your lotto max happy dance? Seems like you hit the jackpot on this one.The Lebanese army recently captured one explosive laden vehicle but it looks like a couple more got away. Seems some terrorists in Lebanon see Iran as a problem.
Iranian cultural office targeted in Lebanon
Suicide blasts in southern suburbs of Lebanese capital, Beirut, kill at least seven, says health minister.
A twin suicide bombing hit the southern suburbs of Beirut during the morning rush hour, killing at least seven people and wounding more than 100 in an attack targeting Iran's cultural centre, the country's health ministry said.
The blasts were caused by two suicide bombers of the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, an al-Qaeda-linked group that claimed responsibility for Wednesday's attacks via Twitter.
"In a little while, God willing, there will be important announcements on the attack of the Iranian cultural centre in Beirut by your brothers in the Abdullah Azzam Brigades, from the Hussein Bin Ali cell," it said.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2014/02/deaths-blast-southern-beirut-20142198538467372.html
I wonder whether Iran and Hezbollah justify terrorism when they're the targets.
In related news, fresh clashes break out in Tripoli and civilians are starting to flee parts of Beirut.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Le...-residents-quietly-flee-southern-suburbs.ashx
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Le...nded-as-fresh-violence-erupts-in-tripoli.ashx
So far you've failed to produce anything of what you've claimed. Give us the link to the text you copied and pasted in post #277.So in summary, we have documented proof that Lebanon started the war with Israel.
How that prediction of a coup by Hezbollah coming along, Nostradamus?And to add, it seems that at least one of the perpetrators was Palestinian and despite the guys father willingly contacting the authorities, his neighbours attacked his house and torched his cars. The authorities are worried about sectarian violence as a result.
http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Le...abinet-rises-to-first-security-challenge.ashx
I wonder if grog et. al. will say that this bombing beside an orphanage is a natural and acceptable result of Lebanon denying rights to generations of Palestinians born there?
Rex probably doesn't want to reveal his sources.So far you've failed to produce anything of what you've claimed. Give us the link to the text you copied and pasted in post #277.
You are doing everything possible to dodge this....why Rob?
I have produced the NYT article that clearly states the Lebanese authorized PLO attacks on Israel from Lebanon. It's indisputable.So far you've failed to produce anything of what you've claimed. Give us the link to the text you copied and pasted in post #277.
You are doing everything possible to dodge this....why Rob?
