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Have you filled out the government survey on prostitution yet?

Have you completed the government survey on prostitution yet?

  • Yes

    Votes: 61 73.5%
  • No

    Votes: 22 26.5%

  • Total voters
    83
Jan 24, 2012
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YUP 2x so far DESPITE that it be A POLITICLE TOOL by the Government to SAY it listened to the people / reached out & heard 100's of thousands pleading for criminalization & throw ALL the perverts in JAIL !!!:frusty:
 

spraggamuffin

Well-known member
Oct 6, 2006
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Coming up on ctv news at six a mother talks about her helplessness in getting her daughter out of the business.

They also talk about whether the police are toothless in shutting down brothels.
 

spraggamuffin

Well-known member
Oct 6, 2006
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is the woman's daughter an adult?
That was my first question.

The mother said her daughter is addicted to drugs and may have psychological issues.

The woman running the agency claims this is false and the daughter is neither on drugs nor escorting against her will.

Some John said he went up and came back down and won't be using that agency anymore.

It's great to see another side to these things as we debate the laws here though.

We only see the picture as providers and clients here but can't blame a mother for concern for her daughter.

Daughter is an adult and if not forced into it, mother can't do much and neither should the law.

Otherwise it's just like people imposing their religion on others who are not of that religion or beliefs.

Government already uses biblical mores as it's underlying principle in legislating morality.
 

doggee_01

Active member
Jul 11, 2003
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40% have voted no and obviously they have seen the links to the poll. So I am curious why not???. Is it taking too much of your time?, you don't care? You think it is 100% a sham by the government is wasting time? Some other time? Any other reason please state?
you really think it will matter??? they will make the results fit their legislation!!!
 

T.O.tourist

Just Me
Dec 5, 2008
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Next year on the news:

CTV Exclusive, 3 arrested on charges of living off the avails of prostitution.
A nanny, a house keeper and a landlord have been accused of accepting money from a sex worker.

:rolleyes:
 

T.O.tourist

Just Me
Dec 5, 2008
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you really think it will matter??? they will make the results fit their legislation!!!
True every survey is skewed one way or the other. However, the more people that speak out against a subject the harder it becomes to skew the survey.

Everyone should take the time to fill out this survey at least once a day.
Will this make a difference? Who knows.

Do you think that some people from "the morality squad" are sitting there completing the survey over and over 10 hours a day? Probably.

Everyones voice can make a statement! Please speak up people.
 

JohnHenry

Well-known member
Aug 27, 2003
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rural ontario
Here's the questions:
1. Do you think that purchasing sexual services from an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain.
2. Do you think that selling sexual services by an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain.
3. If you support allowing the sale or purchase of sexual services, what limitations should there be, if any, on where or how this can be conducted? Please explain.
4. Do you think that it should be a criminal offence for a person to benefit economically from the prostitution of an adult? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain.
5. Are there any other comments you wish to offer to inform the Government's response to the Bedford decision?
6. Are you writing on behalf of an organization? If so, please identify the organization and your title or role:

Answers are limited to 500 characters.
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

Behind the camera
Jun 18, 2011
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www.msfemmefatale.com
That was my first question.

The mother said her daughter is addicted to drugs and may have psychological issues.

The woman running the agency claims this is false and the daughter is neither on drugs nor escorting against her will.

Some John said he went up and came back down and won't be using that agency anymore.

It's great to see another side to these things as we debate the laws here though.

We only see the picture as providers and clients here but can't blame a mother for concern for her daughter.

Daughter is an adult and if not forced into it, mother can't do much and neither should the law.

Otherwise it's just like people imposing their religion on others who are not of that religion or beliefs.

Government already uses biblical mores as it's underlying principle in legislating morality.
Actually he mother said SHE BELIEVES> meaning that she has no clue and is grasping at straws because she doesn't like what her daughter has chosen to do. The daughter is 24, grown and should be left alone by mom to live her own life, make her own mistakes etc.

As for the survey, I did fill out it and made it quite clear that the questions they were asking where not related to what they are actually trying to stop with underage sex work and human trafficking.
 

drlove

Ph.D. in Pussyology
Oct 14, 2001
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The doctor is in
Here are my answers. It's somewhat disheartening to discover that only 30 members have completed the survey. Bear in mind that if a Nordic model is passed, it will have a major impact on our freedoms to conduct our affairs where this industry is concerned. I urge everyone to stand up and speak out. Don't be a lemming or you will have Harper's conservative ideology rammed down your throat. I can almost guarantee it.

Consultation Questions

1. Do you think that purchasing sexual services from an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain.

Comment: No. I feel that purchasing of sexual services should not be a criminal offence as it is contrary to the recent SCC ruling which struck down Canada's existing prostitution laws. Criminalizing the purchase of sex violates section seven of the Canadian Charter Of Rights and Freedoms since it does nothing to aid the safety of the person who is engaged in sex work. Criminalization will only relegate prostitution further into the shadows and have the effect of making it less safe for women to conduct their affairs, which rails against the spirit of the SCC's ruling. Of course, exceptions should be made for exploitation of minors and sex trafficking. However there are already current laws in place to effectively deal with these issues.


2. Do you think that selling sexual services by an adult should be a criminal offence? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain.


Comment: No. Selling sexual services should not be a criminal offense. Exceptions should apply in cases where someone is coerced. However, where participants are engaging in sex work of their own volition, there should be no state intervention.


3. If you support allowing the sale or purchase of sexual services, what limitations should there be, if any, on where or how this can be conducted? Please explain.

Comment: I feel that the health and safety of sex workers and their clients should be of paramount importance. To that end, those who engage in sex work should be afforded a safe place to conduct business, and have health access as required. Furthermore, clients should be free to purchase said legal services without impediment.


4. Do you think that it should be a criminal offence for a person to benefit economically from the prostitution of an adult? Should there be any exceptions? Please explain.


Comment: No. As in other legal professions, workers have the right to hire assistants for monetary compensation. The case for willing sex workers should be no different, as anything else would be discriminatory. Sex workers should have the right to hire body guards, drivers, and other aids as they see fit.


5. Are there any other comments you wish to offer to inform the Government's response to the Bedford decision?


Comment: In light of the SCC's ruling, decriminalization is the best possible option. To do otherwise would only subject participants to undue harms pursuant to a misguided ideology. Certainly, if the safety, well being and the right to conduct legal work without duress exists in all other legal professions, sex work cannot be an exception.


6. Are you are writing on behalf of an organization? If so, please identify the organization and your title or role:


Comment: No.
 

Keepingitreal

New member
Jan 24, 2010
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[QUOTE Don't be a lemming or you will have Harper's conservative ideology rammed down your throat.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion it has already been decided, this survey will just be used as ammunition against this industry.
 

lovelatinas

Retired
Sep 30, 2008
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Do you really think this survey will work in our favor? It's a tool for the conservatives to say see all of Canada is against prostitution. If Harper shove this Nordic system down our throats, don't vote conservative in the next election.
 

explorer46

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Aug 10, 2008
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I think the survey is pretty straightforward. Simply asking whether one consider the purchasing, selling, or third-party profiteering criminal. I hope Canada is able to generate a logical law that is not flawed with religious sentiments. The only arguments that can be logically made against providing or purchasing services, in my opinion, is street work which has been shown to be detrimental to providers. Incall and partnerships/groups of providers creating an entity should be legal.
 

poker

Everyone's hero's, tell everyone's lies.
Jun 1, 2006
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IM469

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2012
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I filled it out but I'm guessing that Harper has already drafted the legislation and the poll will be discarded if it doesn't match the legislation.
 
someone who hasn't filled out yet please forward this interesting article for them to read:
Your link didn't work for the article, but I think this is the one you meant ;)

http://rightswork.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Issue-Paper-4.pdf

I have already filled out the form and also wrote a personal letter to the following:
The Right Honourable Stephen Harper, Prime Minister
The Honourable Peter MacKay, Minister of Justice

The Honourable Thomas Mulcair, Leader of the Office Opposition
The Honourable Francoise Boivin, Office Opposition - Shadow Cabinet - Justice

The Honourable Justin Trudeau, Liberal Caucus
The Honourable Libby Davies, MP, Vancouver East

Consultations.Prostitution@justice.gc.ca

Valerie Scott - Legal Coordinator, Sex Professionals of Canada
Amy Lebovitch - Deputy Director, Sex Professionals of Canada
 
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