Do I need a lawyer, or just contact police?

[buttercup]

. . manipulative men like you who prey on the poverty stricken. .

If she thinks of herself as 'poverty stricken', she's probably been claiming welfare.

You can't rule it out that she told the welfare people she was receiving an income from being an SP. But I bet she didn't. So that's something else you can counter with, to persuade her to keep shtum. (I take it, since she knows your name and address and some of your family circumstances, that you know much the same about her.)

 

[DB123]

Basically, with details omitted, here's her email

I have been doing a lot of thinking over the past while, the past long while… My life has been truly shattered by the world of escorting and manipulative men like you who prey on the poverty stricken. It must be nice to go on living your life as you do with your lovely wife, the kids, your home and business as well as your other involvement. Having me along on business trips for the only purpose to fuck me. These are things I could never do to the future father of my children; these are things I hope most people could never do…

It’s not fair that people like yourself succeed in life and people like me just fall apart, all used up and fade away…

I want a new life, a life men like yourself have denied me the chance of having … I want you to fund my 10 K run to freedom…

You have until February 14th 2014. I’m sure you will figure it out… I should hope for both are sakes you are able to figure it out…

It's your life, but to me that's b.s., ignore her. Don't tell her to fuck off, don't threaten her back (no offence to those who made suggestions along those lines, but that's beyond stupid, same with lawyer letter, which will literally do nothing and presupposes that you know her residential address).

My guess is you don't respond and you wont hear back.

Lastly, is it possible she literally means a 10 k (kilometre) run to freedom?

 

[cavalo]

February 14.. the deadline ...

That's Valentines Day...she wants you to be her valentine...LOL!

Maybe you can work something out with her for old times sake...you must have a soft spot for her...she did make you happy...

But tell her in no uncertain terms that any future demands or deadlines will result in the police being notified right away..

She obviously needs help and support, from you... from somebody...

 

[Aardvark154]

Basically, with details omitted, here's her email

I have been doing a lot of thinking over the past while, the past long while… My life has been truly shattered by the world of escorting and manipulative men like you who prey on the poverty stricken. It must be nice to go on living your life as you do with your lovely wife, the kids, your home and business as well as your other involvement. Having me along on business trips for the only purpose to fuck me. These are things I could never do to the future father of my children; these are things I hope most people could never do…

It’s not fair that people like yourself succeed in life and people like me just fall apart, all used up and fade away…

I want a new life, a life men like yourself have denied me the chance of having … I want you to fund my 10 K run to freedom…

You have until February 14th 2014. I’m sure you will figure it out… I should hope for both are sakes you are able to figure it out…

That certainly meets the common law elements of Blackmail/Extortion and more importantly of § 346 of the Criminal Code.


§ 346. (1) Every one commits extortion who, without reasonable justification or excuse and with intent to obtain anything, by threats, accusations, menaces or violence induces or attempts to induce any person, whether or not he is the person threatened, accused or menaced or to whom violence is shown, to do anything or cause anything to be done. . . .

Certainly you should contact police, the problem, however, is the 'ticking time bomb' aspect, I leave it to my learned friends of the Upper Canada Bar whether you need to simultaneously explore a civil suppression order/injunction or whether the crown will move rapidly enough to take care of that.

 

[spaman]

are you kidding. she sent it in an email? have your lawyer respond reminding this person that this is a clear case of extortion and to reconsider or he will forward this email to police. wtf

 

[Aardvark154]

Lastly, is it possible she literally means a 10 k (kilometre) run to freedom?

Given the rest of the e-mail making that argument would be one one heck of a stretch that I doubt any judge or jury would buy.

 

[DB123]

That certainly meets the common law elements of Blackmail/Extortion and more importantly of § 346 of the Criminal Code.


§ 346. (1) Every one commits extortion who, without reasonable justification or excuse and with intent to obtain anything, by threats, accusations, menaces or violence induces or attempts to induce any person, whether or not he is the person threatened, accused or menaced or to whom violence is shown, to do anything or cause anything to be done. . . .

Certainly you should contact police, the problem, however, is the 'ticking time bomb' aspect, I leave it to my learned friends of the Upper Canada Bar whether you need to simultaneously explore a civil suppression order/injunction or whether the crown will move rapidly enough to take care of that.

If you're going to do that, you may as well call her bluff and say no money. Result will be the same in terms of publicity

 

[DB123]

I'm sure you had feelings for her and all so forgive the expression, but are you trusting a blackmailing whore to respect an injunction, that will takes weeks to schedule regardless of urgency and need to be brought on notice?

 

[Tiger]

What is the priority here? Keeping this under wraps from the wifey/family or the $10K

If it were me, I'd think the privacy issue is most important. If I could guarantee the extortion would be hush hush then I'd negotiate if it were a small sum, say $1000, however...

I am wary about blackmail and extortion - it seems to be a never ending cycle, and with some psycho lady like you're dealing with, who's to say she won't threaten you again in the future? You'll never have assurances that your payoff money will be the end of it. My stance would be tough and firm, even though it would stress the hell out of me, and say no payout = call the police and let them deal with it.

And for sure, deny deny deny. I agree that you may want to mention something to your wife about some crazy email you've been getting, and tip her off ONLY IF you feel the psycho will actually spill the beans. Wait until the last minute, but wifey should hear it from you first. No one likes surprises. (My wife found my Ashley Madison account on her own, and she was pissed... took a lot of explaining to get out of that one)

 

[danmand]

That certainly meets the common law elements of Blackmail/Extortion and more importantly of § 346 of the Criminal Code.


§ 346. (1) Every one commits extortion who, without reasonable justification or excuse and with intent to obtain anything, by threats, accusations, menaces or violence induces or attempts to induce any person, whether or not he is the person threatened, accused or menaced or to whom violence is shown, to do anything or cause anything to be done. . . .

Certainly you should contact police, the problem, however, is the 'ticking time bomb' aspect, I leave it to my learned friends of the Upper Canada Bar whether you need to simultaneously explore a civil suppression order/injunction or whether the crown will move rapidly enough to take care of that.

Dosn't look like a clear case of extortion to me.

Aardie, you have verbally assaulted me and caused me anguish during the last many years. I would like you to send me $500 so I can have a fresh start in life. I hope that you will send me the money by february 15.

 

[DB123]

What is the priority here? Keeping this under wraps from the wifey/family or the $10K

If it were me, I'd think the privacy issue is most important. If I could guarantee the extortion would be hush hush then I'd negotiate if it were a small sum, say $1000, however...

I am wary about blackmail and extortion - it seems to be a never ending cycle, and with some psycho lady like you're dealing with, who's to say she won't threaten you again in the future? You'll never have assurances that your payoff money will be the end of it. My stance would be tough and firm, even though it would stress the hell out of me, and say no payout = call the police and let them deal with it.

And for sure, deny deny deny. I agree that you may want to mention something to your wife about some crazy email you've been getting, and tip her off ONLY IF you feel the psycho will actually spill the beans. Wait until the last minute, but wifey should hear it from you first. No one likes surprises. (My wife found my Ashley Madison account on her own, and she was pissed... took a lot of explaining to get out of that one)

You got out of having an Ashley Madison account? Bravo sir

 

[Aardvark154]

If you're going to do that, you may as well call her bluff and say no money. Result will be the same in terms of publicity

The courts take the nature of blackmail into account. It would rather defeat the purpose of laws against blackmail if we then facilitated the blackmail by putting out the information wouldn't it.

 

[Stoo]

Yet another reason to use a pay as you go phone with a fake name and email to go with it. I have one, but only use it with "unknown/BP" ladies, but for $20 a month in prepaid cards, we should all be using these things.

In this situation, I am mostly inclined to agree that it's perhaps a bf or someone, but an old favorite in the Falls has fallen hard due to drugs and is a great example of "yesterdays Sweetheart" becoming "today's nightmare"...

 

[Aardvark154]

Dosn't look like a clear case of extortion to me.

Aardie, you have verbally assaulted me and caused me anguish during the last many years. I would like you to send me $500 so I can have a fresh start in life. I hope that you will send me the money by february 15.

Not nearly as much anguish as you've caused all the rest of us.

You have changed the wording there was no "I hope" rather there was a demand "you have until" further the threat "I should hope for both are (sic) sakes you are able to figure it out…"

 

[peter4025]

(My wife found my Ashley Madison account on her own, and she was pissed... took a lot of explaining to get out of that one)

You are my new hero! How did you do it?

 

[danmand]

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Not nearly as much anguish as you've caused all the rest of us.

You have changed the wording there was no "I hope" rather there was a demand "you have until" further the threat "I should hope for both are (sic) sakes you are able to figure it out…"

I hope for the sake of both of us that you are sending the money.

 

[DB123]

The courts take the nature of blackmail into account. It would rather defeat the purpose of laws against blackmail if we then facilitated the blackmail by putting out the information wouldn't it.

......

publicity from her, by virtue of receiving a letter from a lawyer. Its poking the bear when this bear is likely just a scavenger that will vanish when she can't find a meal (ticket)

 

[Tiger]

You are my new hero! How did you do it?

You got out of having an Ashley Madison account? Bravo sir

Don't applaud me... I was an idiot and left it on my laptop. I should have been crucified by her, honestly. She's not good with computers, but somehow pressed "reopen last closed window" and found my page

With pure luck, and alot of explaining and convincing, she's let the issue drop. I've never done anything remotely unfaithful that she knows of, so my record was clean. We don't have kids, so that's another plus. I deleted the account right in front of her, she saw me push the button. Promised never to do it again. And, honestly there was a magazine article about Ashley Madison that came out a few months prior, so I showed it to her and tried to convince her I was just being curious and that nothing "happened". She seemed to get that most of the girls postings were fake anyway. She still brings it up when we fight, she calls it the time when I cheated on her...

Oh, I also bought her a $5000 eternity diamond ring. That might have helped ease the pain

 

[D-Fens]

Yikes... this is why I don't tell sps where I work, or anything about my family. It's stuff they really don't need to know anyway.

 

[Stoo]

Yikes... this is why I don't tell sps where I work, or anything about my family.

I tell them all of that stuff and more. It's just that none of it is real...