Who Are The Pedophiles?
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Actually, I think this thread should stay open so we can identify the sickos.
And then report them to the PoPo
Honestly ? i dont freaking know. What i do know is that i am frustrated with our lame slap on the wrist justice system and speaking out of frustration. Obviously its not the civil thing to do, but when someone takes matters into their own hands i can empathize. How in the lords prayer can they give these pedos such light sentences then put them back in society steps away from other children.
Andy
I get what you are saying and I would have the same issues. What really interests me is how many lives are ruined by repeat offenders.
Of course those figures are probably not kept, because our system does not really care about the victims. Those numbers are not sensationalized as the wrongful convictions are.
I would be interested to compare those numbers versus the # of wrongful convictions. Lets say we find out that for every 1 wrongful conviction there is 100 victims of repeat offenders, can you live with those numbers?
I have already decided that when I am really old, and have nothing to lose, I am going to form a group that specializes in finding pedophiles and preventing them from hurting more kids. Andy, will you join me?
Im in. i am old, kids are grown and doin their own thing. Have always been intrigued with vigilantes going way back to the early Death Wish movies many moons ago. Picture this......bunch of old guys running amuck on the side of justice lol
Andy
How many lives is that. I asked earlier if someone knew how many registered sex offenders there were in TO, and he never got back to me. your surely are pulling those numbers out of your hat. Hanging the pedos won't decrease the number of victims, just like executing murderers didn't lessen the number of murders.
Apparently hanging an innocent man is okay with you. There are many ways of dealing with child abuse and it starts with taking away the shame of being a victim.
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Andy I think we are of similar age so we have another 15 to 20 years of good stuff left in us. It is definitely a part of my plan. Will flesh it out
over the next few years and get back to you.
I am, and always have been a greater good kind of person. Let me ask you (or anyone else who cares to respond) a question: Why do you feel its ok to send soldiers into warzone but have a problem with a few "innocent" people receiving capital punishment?
Are you serious ? instead of being proactive in dealing with these sick fucks, you would focus on making the children feel better after being abused ? why put them in that situation in the first place ? Why put these parasites back in society to begin with.
Andy
I guess you still haven't got a figure for how many lives are ruined by pedophiles, so you're off on another tangent.
You analog is whacked, big time. It's not 'okay', whatever the hell that means, it's is more often than not one of the hardest decisions good government and its people make. As Wynn Dyers put it in his award winning anti war series WAR, in most cases soldiers volunteer to put themselves in harms way and heading into a war zone is often part of that of that decision. No one is volunteering to be put on trial erroneously found guilty of a crime they didn't commit.
I didn't say focus on that and only that. It is only one of the ways. It's not just feel better, it's don't feel alone, dirty, and that it's your fault.
So I ask you, how many of these sick fucks are there in TO? Three people haven't been able to answer the simple question so far. The eye for an eye atitude went out of style with the prison strap, lopping off of hands and the door cage. It's been proven, capital punishment will not diminish the occurrence of serious crime. It just make 'you' feel good.
How are we supposed to know, blackrock?? Does the police make public a list of names of all sex-offenders in Toronto and where they live?? AFAIK they dont.
I do know however when Holly Jones went missing cops said there were approximately 100 sex-offenders living within a 2 mile radius of her house. Thats a fuck of a lot of sex-offenders, dont you think??
I'll see if I can dig up the original news article on google
As long as you are willing to keep an open mind, then lets discuss. This is not just to blackrock, anyone else feel free to jump in only if you have something intelligent to add.
As I said in my earlier post, I don't know what those numbers are. Even if someone pulls up some numbers, you would have to really did down deep to get a realistic picture of the
potential destruction caused by repeat offenders or maybe not caused by repeat offenders. If I was a PHD student or worked in some government organization or knew of a way to get funding to conduct the research, I would gladly do it. In the meantime, we have to rely on what we have to work with.
You seem to misunderstand my 1 vs 100 figure. It was not pulled out of a hat, it was a starting point to ask you the question of what would it take to convince you of the damage
that is being done to innocent people vs. sentencing an innocent person to death. So if I said to you that I could prove (within certain error margins), that for every 1 person
who is wrongly sentenced to death, you could save 100 children from being abused, would you find that acceptable? Would that number be 1 (death penalty) vs. 2, 1 vs. 5, 1 vs. 10.
I hope that none of you have family members who have been abused or have been abused yourself (but if you have, please feel free to share your stories), but for Blackrock,
I ask you to really try to think of one of those victims (1death penalty vs. 100 victims) not as a nameless, faceless face in a crowd. Think of them as the child in your family, or your friends family etc...
Finally, why does everyone these days seem to take for granted the fact that we live in a society does not just mean paying taxes. There are too many assholes out there
who seem to think along the lines of "I kill what I eat, i don't rely on anyone else to feed my family, I go out and work my ass off to provide for them, and everyone else should do the same. If you can't then it's your fault". I agree with these statements to a certain degree, but not the complete implication of it. To take the "I kill what i eat" analogy,
in a society, you do kill what you eat, but the reality is that "society" has rounded up the game that you are killing and put them in a pen. All you have to do is
start shooting, and you will eventually hit something. Cows and chickens do not shoot back.
Take another example. Some people will say, "I pay my taxes, I have a right to drive wherever I want". The reality is that if you drove on the road that you paid for
with your taxes, you would probably drive a few car lenghts before you run out of road.
Everyday in our society decisions are made that affect peoples lives. Take the recent example of the woman who is fighting with OHIP for cancer drugs to extend her life.
Why is a person who is convicted of serious crime given more status than our everyday person?
Living in a society we all have a responsibility to each other, and there might be some costs involved in that membership.
You really are a lazy sob. The answer is available for those willing to look, even offered in an earlier thread the last time we talked about capital punishment and WWG favourites the Scout and the RCC, but it's clear that those who posted earlier don't know the answer. It's surprisingly low considering the size GTA.
Okay fine, could you please post the website link where we can look up the info on sex-offenders in Toronto??
It's simply a variation of the mice vs baby question on research. There is no winning answer. If you are a member of a family who father, son, or whomever is wrongly executed or jailed, one doe in error is too many.
The tax example is another example of how ignorant people can think, little more. People in prison do not have more status/rights. One very important right was taken away, their ability to come and go as they wish. They ware told when to eat, when to sleep and when they can do something as simple as watch tv. Try it some day, see how you feel.
Your 'kill what you eat' analogy is off the chart silly, sorry.
Like I said lazy. You continuously want other people to do your work. I'll admit, hanks to the recent international bust and Rob Ford it's a little tougher to find but it is there.
And one child harmed by a repeat offender is too many. Ask the family members of those who have committed suicide by not being able to cope with being abused.
Andy
