Gawker Claims Video Exists of Rob Ford Smoking Crack

[Phil C. McNasty]

Ford's lawyer says it wasnt crack Ford was smoking in video. I mean really, what else is he gonna say at this point.

Also, whats interesting is Ford and his lawyer are at least now admitting there is a video:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/rob-ford-wasn-t-smoking-crack-on-video-lawyer-says-1.2325017

Rob Ford wasn't smoking crack on video, lawyer says

Suggests pipe in the video may have contained marijuana or tobacco

Rob Ford's lawyer urged police to release the video alleged to show the Toronto mayor smoking crack cocaine, and suggested Ford was smoking another substance, such as marijuana or tobacco.

Dennis Morris said in an interview with CBC News that Ford is "innocent of any allegations made about his smoking crack cocaine."

He also said neither police nor the Toronto Star reporters who say they have viewed the video can confirm the substance being smoked on the video is crack.

"No one is going to approach the media with a video saying he's smoking tobacco or marijuana — it's not salacious enough," said Morris. "It's not going to sell newspapers, it's not going to make headlines all over the world."

"In my view the reporters from The Toronto Star have probably never smoked crack cocaine as [have] probably 99 per cent of our citizenry," said Morris. "For someone to approach them asking a large sum of money, would it make more sense to say 'I have a video of the mayor smoking crack cocaine, or have a video of the mayor smoking perhaps tobacco, or marijuana. Which one would you be interested in if you're going to buy a video?"

Morris's comments come one day after Toronto police Chief Bill Blair said police have in their possession "a digital file that contains video images which appear to be those images which were previously reported in the press."

Those statements are thought to confirm the existence of a video the two Star reporters say they've viewed, and that the newspaper has reported shows Ford smoking what appears to be crack cocaine.
Ford denies being crack addict

But speaking with CBC on Friday, Morris suggested the video does not show Ford smoking crack.

"I urge the police chief to state under oath that he has seen a video of the mayor smoking crack cocaine," said Morris.

A week after reports of the tape broke in May, Ford said he could not comment on a tape that doesn't exist and denied he's a crack addict.

On Thursday, reports about the tape triggered a massive police surveillance effort focused on Ford and his associates. Details of that police work made public Thursday show police tracking Ford and others with hidden cameras, undercover officers and airplane surveillance.

Ford's friend and occasional driver Alexander Lisi, who the surveillance shows made multiple calls and conducted clandestine meetings with Ford in the days after the story broke, is facing a charge of extortion and will appear in court today.

Police spokesperson Mark Pugash responded to Morris's comments Friday with a statement saying police do not plan to release the tape.

"Chief Blair has said, repeatedly, that we will put evidence before the courts and it is up to them to decide what is released," he said

 

[acutus]

Think you mean 5331 and 5332. (Someone maybe deleted a preceeding post messing up the numbers maybe...)

Yes, it appears that original posts may have been deleted or otherwise modified after my comments were posted. Thank you for pointing this out, Mr. Ridgeman08. Sincerely, Jon .

 

[Butler1000]

Nope sorry, thats a publicity stunt by AM640. Thats not Rob Ford


What???!! I didnt hear about that.

Lisi kept a copy of the crack video on his computer all this time??! :Eek:

Unbelievable

Modification to this. At some point he must have transfered a copy to his computer from the phone. He did try to delete it but it was recovered from the hard drive. Either way why the hell would he do it? Stupid or nefarious?

 

[AdamH]

Also, whats interesting is Ford and his lawyer are at least now admitting there is a video:

Not a smart move on the lawyer's part.. It does damage to Ford's chances for plausible deniability...

Ford - "There is no video"
Blair - "Yes there is.. I saw it."
Ford - "No way... And even if there was.. I happen to know that in that specific video that exists that I am not smoking crack.. OR maybe it's not even me at all (depending on how gullible you are).."
Press - "I thought there was no video?"
Ford - ".... I saved you money!"

 

[Butler1000]

The two issues that you have excitedly raised are distinct from one and other. Homosexual behaviour causes a deadly, infectious, incurable and completely preventable anal disease that has affected the entire World in a profoundly destructive way. Mayor Rob Ford may likely have engaged in recreactional drug use in his private life in which there is, so far, no evidence of any inpropriety in his capacity as a public servant. Sincerely, Jon .

Do yourself a favor people and don't repond to his drivel. Its not worth it. Just ignore and it will eventually go back under its bridge.......

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Not a smart move on the lawyer's part.. It does damage to Ford's chances for plausible deniability...

Ford - "There is no video"
Blair - "Yes there is.. I saw it."
Ford - "No way... And even if there was.. I happen to know that in that specific video that exists that I am not smoking crack.. OR maybe it's not even me at all (depending on how gullible you are).."
Press - "I thought there was no video?"
Ford - ".... I saved you money!"

Ha ha.....good point :biggrin1:

Modification to this. At some point he must have transfered a copy to his computer from the phone. He did try to delete it but it was recovered from the hard drive. Either way why the hell would he do it? Stupid or nefarious?

Maybe Lisi really was trying to extort Rob Ford, and not that Somali drug dealer??

He'd have to be stupid to extort a drug dealer, because they'll just shoot you first chance they get

 

[yeahyeahyeah]

Nope sorry, thats a publicity stunt by AM640. Thats not Rob Ford

You'd be in the minority in that opinion. But hey, in the reality-distortion environment of Ford Nation, whatever..

 

[acutus]

This stupid motherfucker......he was fucking elected with a mandate....a chance to make a difference to the city's finances. And he does this.....I am so angry right now.

This stupidity onhis part is going to put this city back to the old bullshit. This mother fucker needs to resign so the narrative can go back to the message. He needs to fade out now.

At least it didn't happen during an election. Crap like this could put someone like Chow in.

The stipid fuck!

Fuck, eh....? Sounds like an angry troll to me. Sincerely, Jon .

 

[AdamH]

From the Toronto Sun

This is a mayor whose staff told police they suspected Ford’s good friend Lisi and part-time chauffeur “would drive the Mayor around to ‘hot spots’ and facilitate getting drugs for Mayor.”

Another friend, volunteer football coach Payman Aboodowleh, told police he’s angry at Lisi for “fuelling mayor’s drug abuse.” Former staffer Chris Fickle told investigators he “does not know where the Mayor got marijuana from but has heard that ‘Sandro’ may be the person who provides the mayor with marijuana and possibly cocaine.”

This is not a left-wing conspiracy. This can’t be blamed on the Star or any of the Fords’ many other “enemies.” These are the mayor’s own friends and staffers who have made these damning allegations to police.

HEYHEY,

Still a conspiracy against Ford?

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

You'd be in the minority in that opinion

Just because a majority think its true doesnt make it so

But hey, in the reality-distortion environment of Ford Nation, whatever

Since I'm not part of Ford nation your statement becomes null and void

 

[fun-guy]

Well he deleted it. The police recovered it by restoring his deleted files. He probably just wasn't smart enough to realize he needed to destroy the hard drive to make it really gone.

(There are some software tools that claim to delete securely but for something like this I would have used power tools.)

To do it right, you get a 50 lb sledgehammer and pound the shit out of your hard drive. Then you sweep up all the pieces and put it in a large steel, open top drum and pour gasoline inside. Light it and wait for the fire to extinguish. Take whatever remaining ashes are left, roll it up and Ford should smoke it. That should do the trick.

 

[danmand]

To do it right, you get a 50 lb sledgehammer and pound the shit out of your hard drive. Then you sweep up all the pieces and put it in a large steel, open top drum and pour gasoline inside. Light it and wait for the fire to extinguish. Take whatever remaining ashes are left, roll it up and Ford should smoke it. That should do the trick.

I use a .22

 

[slowandeasy]

You're welcome. Please note further that the events that happened or didn't happen- happened in Mayor Ford's private Life. One may note additionally that Mayor Ford may not have been aware that he was being video taped at the time, which is why he would deny any such video tape existed. Sincerely, Jon .

Come on Jon stop trolling. You and I both know it does not matter if Ford (or any other executive) smokes crack and hangs around with drug dealers, or hangs out in drug dens in his private life,
on Mars or Venus. The fact that he is doing it suggest that his judgement in making good decisions is impaired (in Fords case it seems to be completely f'ed up) meaning that we cannot trust him to do his job as the Mayor of our city. I don't want to make this a long drawn out post, so I will end it there.

 

[slowandeasy]

Except when he showed up at the Garrison Ball or Taste of the Danforth.
Come to think of it, he's probably been high at work most of the time.
Its really the only to explain his constant lying.

There are so many bad parts to this, but one that bothers me now is if he really did sexually assault Ms. Thompson while high or drunk or
what ever...

 

[slowandeasy]

I am gonna miss Rob Ford. He's been the most entertaining mayor we ever had

I don't think we have seen the last of Rob Ford just yet. I agree it has been entertaining. I hope he resigns soon, so the Toronto star
can start doing real reporting again.

 

[slowandeasy]

I do think cops should release that video now though. Its kinda unfair to Ford not to. Who knows, maybe there's a small chance its weed Ford is smoking (although I think thats highly unlikely).

Fords lawyer wants Chief Blair to resign....LOL

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/10/31/chief-bill-blair-should-resign-rob-fords-lawyer-says

Whether he is smoking weed, crack, or a cuban cigar, he lied about there not being a video, the police have documented
too many "meetings" with a drug dealer for us to give him the benefit of the doubt now.

When they arrested Lisi for dealing drugs, that was the point where the worm turned for me. Its time for Rob Ford to "mea culpa" and get out of dodge.
Did he learn nothing from Lance Armstrong???

 

[slowandeasy]

Who knew that Ford could find a lawyer stupider then himself?
I'm sure the world will be a better place though, with the Ford internet meme as a cracksmoking racist.

Disturbing that I now find something funny in what you say groggy...

 

[slowandeasy]

Actually a big issue with me now is why did Lisi continue to keep a copy of the video on his computer. It was on a phone and he obviously transfered it. He was supposed to get it presumably and destroy it. He didn't.
At this point I don't care about the Mayors personal life. But now we have a public official who may have been in a position to be blackmailed. And he walked into this situation himself. His ability to govern has been comprimised now. We can't take any initative he might bring to table at face value. Is someone pulling his strings?
I supported the Mayor and his policies as I felt they were the best direction for the city at this ttime.
I still support the policies. But I can't support the man. Not any longer.

First, Was the video they recovered on Lisi's computer? I dont' believe that they have confirmed that fact...

Second, if the video was on Lisi's computer, does that connect to Ford? Does it mean that Ford paid Lisi/Drug Dealers for the video, and was that really
why Ford could say "video does not exist" ? Whole new can of worms.

The Ford boys are actually terrible liars. Sometimes When they lie it is almost so stupid you think you must have missed something.
The other day Rob claims that he cannot comment on something that is before the courts or something like that.

 

[blackrock13]

Whether he is smoking weed, crack, or a cuban cigar, he lied about there not being a video, the police have documented
too many "meetings" with a drug dealer for us to give him the benefit of the doubt now.

When they arrested Lisi for dealing drugs, that was the point where the worm turned for me. Its time for Rob Ford to "mea culpa" and get out of dodge.
Did he learn nothing from Lance Armstrong???

I thought the charge was extortion.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...n-court-on-extortion-charges/article15208534/

 

[givemebrain]

First, Was the video they recovered on Lisi's computer? I dont' believe that they have confirmed that fact...

Second, if the video was on Lisi's computer, does that connect to Ford? Does it mean that Ford paid Lisi/Drug Dealers for the video, and was that really
why Ford could say "video does not exist" ? Whole new can of worms.

The Ford boys are actually terrible liars. Sometimes When they lie it is almost so stupid you think you must have missed something.
The other day Rob claims that he cannot comment on something that is before the courts or something like that.

This is what it looked like to me all along (purely speculative, of course).

1. Gawker and Star stories come out
2. Ford refuses to comment for a week
3. During this week Ford (via his associates) are able to procure the video (buy it, get it via extortion, whatever)
4. Thinking the video will never again be seen by anyone, Ford suddenly decides to comment that he 'can't comment on a video that does not exist' (little does he know, even deleted files can be recovered from HDDs, and the video still actually existed)