Gawker Claims Video Exists of Rob Ford Smoking Crack

slowandeasy

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I had mean check the facts of my posting history, not your facts. I have not followed your posting
in this thread.

About Robin Doolittle or the video, I have not said that they lied about seeing a video or that they might have believed the video was real. That was never really the issue.

I don't see why the star would not have wanted to buy the video, but I take your word on it.

Finally, I had alot of respect for the star, and would have agreed with you before they got into a pissing contest over Rob Ford.
 

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Well so far its sources again. I wait to see what the paperwork says.

Also a question. If he was the actual target, does this mean they DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING?
We'll see tomorrow.
Though his mother did visit him at city hall today....

There will still be 160 pages of redacted material, apparently mostly police sources and the names of some innocent people. The papers are arguing that other then the pages dealing with sources and police investigative techniques all else should be revealed on Nov 8.

What are the odds that Ford is one of the 'innocent' and redacted names?
Or was Ford the target of the investigation as the Star reports?

Very exciting.
 

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Well so far its sources again. I wait to see what the paperwork says.

Also a question. If he was the actual target, does this mean they DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING?
Don't ruin his fun. I think he already came in his pants.
 

shack

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We'll see tomorrow.

There will still be 160 pages of redacted material, apparently mostly police sources and the names of some innocent people. The papers are arguing that other then the pages dealing with sources and police investigative techniques all else should be revealed on Nov 8.
That's perfect. In case these 320 show nothing you can still claim the real evidence is in the last 160. And on and on it will go.
 

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That's perfect. In case these 320 show nothing you can still claim the real evidence is in the last 160. And on and on it will go.
Actually he can't. He already stated it has the names of Innocent people. But we shall see.

He wasn't charged with anything though was he?
 

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Actually he can't. He already stated it has the names of Innocent people. But we shall see.

He wasn't charged with anything though was he?
I think Ford paid them off. Plus they like the raise he gave them.
 

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Actually he can't. He already stated it has the names of Innocent people. But we shall see.

He wasn't charged with anything though was he?
I cannot imagine Ford will be charged with drug use. Nobody else would be, it would be a double standard. Users are let go with a warning, usually only dealers are charged.

The issue isn't whether he is criminal, but whether a crack head should be mayor. As such charges are not the measuring stick for whether his behavior is compatible with being mayor.
 

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I cannot imagine Ford will be charged with drug use. Nobody else would be, it would be a double standard. Users are let go with a warning, usually only dealers are charged.

The issue isn't whether he is criminal, but whether a crack head should be mayor. As such charges are not the measuring stick for whether his behavior is compatible with being mayor.
Speaking of that...

Ford’s approval rating way down, new poll finds

Ford's approval rating takes massive hit: new poll

The popularity of Toronto's top politico has taken a massive hit, according to a new poll. CP24's Nneka Elliott has the latest details.

The popularity of Toronto’s top politico has taken a massive hit recently, according to a new poll.
A Forum Research poll released Wednesday puts Toronto Mayor Rob Ford’s approval rating at 39 per cent – down 10 points from last month.
Moreover, 61 per cent of those surveyed disapprove of the job Ford is doing in his role as mayor, while 39 per cent describe him as “one of Toronto’s worst mayors” and another 15 per cent describe him as a “poor mayor.”
 

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There's those elusive un-named sources again... and those special little words... all over the Star's coverage of the document. :hand:

Anyone find the ACTUAL document yet? :confused:
 

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Even if the report even mention's Ford's name several times such as: "During our investigation of the alleged Ford Crack video..." or "Ford's driver..." or "Ford's childhood friend..." or any other mention of Ford, he will only hear: "Ford the crackhead", "Ford the crack addict", or "Ford's crack dealer buddies" etc.

Anyone that sees a picture of a guy standing with three other guys and makes the assumption that he's a crack addict is not playing with a full deck. :Eek::rolleyes:
Perhaps you could quote someone who was stupid enough to make that assumption. Of course this being Hallowe'en, we can let you off on the 'assumption' you're just trying to scare us with imagined terrors.

Nothing imaginary about being suspicious of the judgement, credibility, and recreational activities of a guy posed with murdered drug-dealers in front of a crack-den who won't explain or even comment on how he came to be in that picture. Especially when he has a record of drunkenness, a conviction for driving drunk, and of lying about such things. Alcohol is just a legal drug he can't handle legally.

Indeed, on what we know so far, assuming he's addicted to crack would be as baseless [no pun intended] as an assumption that he's as innocent as we'd expect any ordinary person to be, let alone our Mayor. When and if he faces the machinery of the law, then we will set the dial back to 'Innocent' and make the accuser prove the case. We should all remember that using, or even being addicted to crack is no more a crime in Canada than using the services of SPs.

But at this point, to believe that legal fiction accurately describes him, suggests one really does believe in witches, vampires and fairytales. Good thing you didn't go that far.
 

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Perhaps you could quote someone who was stupid enough to make that assumption.
Apparently you have groggy on ignore... :hand:

He's done nothing but make assumptions about that picture for months.
 

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Perhaps you could quote someone who was stupid enough to make that assumption.
The headline in the Star says something to the effect of: "Lisi was not prime target of investigation".
 

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Apparently you have groggy on ignore... :hand:

He's done nothing but make assumptions about that picture for months.
So you won't have the slightest difficulty quoting that assumption you say he made from the picture your description so tidily whitewashed.
 

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Apparently you have groggy on ignore... :hand:

He's done nothing but make assumptions about that picture for months.
Apparently you have Phil m on ignore, since his signature contains quotes saying I don't think is an addict. Probably just an occasional crackhead, but he's too fat and had good teeth which shows he's not a real addict.
 

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Court documents will be released this morning some time: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...ch-warrant-documents-to-be-released-1.2303146

Rob Ford's friend search warrant documents to be released

About 300 pages of information used by police to obtain a search warrant for Alexander "Sandro" Lisi, Toronto Mayor Rob Ford's friend and occasional driver, will be released this morning.

The move will come a day after an Ontario Superior Court judge ordered the release of select portions of the information used to obtain the search warrant leading up to Lisi's arrest.

Another 170 pages deemed too sensitive will remain sealed when the 300 pages are released Thursday, though media lawyers will be challenging that in submissions to be made on Nov. 8.

During days of arguments, media lawyers opposed attempts to redact from the documents the names of so-called "third parties" — individuals who are associates of Lisi but who were not charged.

Earlier this month, Lisi — described by Ford as a friend — was arrested at a Toronto strip mall and charged with possession and trafficking of marijuana, conspiracy to commit an indictable offence and possession of the proceeds of crime.
More than a 'simple drug bust'

There is speculation about whether Ford, and not Lisi, is the main focus of the police investigation that led to Lisi's arrest.

In making his ruling Wednesday, Justice Ian Nordheimer suggested Lisi is not the focus. Reports in the Toronto Star have suggested that Ford is the real target of the police investigation.

Lawyer Iain MacKinnon, who represented the CBC in submissions to have the material made public, was interviewed Friday on CBC Radio's Metro Morning, and said it's "highly unusual" that police would produce a 480-page submission to obtain a search warrant in what is essentially a simple drug possession and trafficking case.

"A charge of drug possession and trafficking with small amounts generally doesn't justify a document of 480 pages," MacKinnon told host Matt Galloway. "The speculation is there's a lot more going on here than just a simple drug bust."

Ford was asked Wednesday if he expects that the documents will name him.

"I can't comment on anything before the courts," he said.

Ford's relationship with his associates has been at issue since the spring, when the Toronto Star and the U.S. website Gawker reported that someone tried to sell them a video that allegedly shows Ford smoking crack cocaine.

Ford has denied the video exists and has said he does not use crack cocaine.

It was learned last week that Ford wrote a character reference for Lisi, who previously was convicted for threatening to kill his girlfriend
 

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There's those elusive un-named sources again... and those special little words... all over the Star's coverage of the document. :hand:

Anyone find the ACTUAL document yet? :confused:
Unnamed sources, off the record statements, leaked documents, are the stock in trade of the news industry. That is normal practice at any reputable newspaper.

Note that they are not anonymous to the newspaper, the paper had simply agreed to keep their names out of print.
 

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Unnamed sources, off the record statements, leaked documents, are the stock in trade of the news industry. That is normal practice at any reputable newspaper.

Note that they are not anonymous to the newspaper, the paper had simply agreed to keep their names out of print.
Anyone find the ACTUAL document yet?
 
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