Gawker Claims Video Exists of Rob Ford Smoking Crack

[Polaris]

The other detail from the Gawker story, regarding the fund raiser was the cutoff date was May 27, which I could not fully understand.

Of course, it hit me later. It is Memorial Day tomorrow in the USA. The financial markets are closed and it is a holiday. This is the holiday where they traditionally mark the beginning of the summer season.

Everyone in the USA will be thinking of their holidays and the summer, not about some crack dude living in a Canadian igloo. They will forget about the fund raiser, forget about Canada, forget about the igloo, forget about Ford, forget about how the ice in the igloo won't melt from the crack pipe, and forgot why did they ever donate to that Gawker fellow? He gave the money to charity, so it was not all bad.

The Gawker thing is beginning to look like one well thought out and well play publicity stunt.

As for the Doug Ford & GlobeandMail battle, rumours are not truth for most people. If they don't have more than that, such as a arrest report, then this is one big bull shit story.

Rumours 30 years later, that's a waste of time.

 

[fmahovalich]

I suspect the Star had the original idea to run with this video story. They had the pics with the dead drug dealer....and then somehow GAVE it to Gawker....in the USA..to blow the lid off.

I think we will all find that gawker is a pawn here.....and in fact....the tape is already in custody of the STAR.....but, not wanting to be seen as 'paying' for it....have left the collection to Gawker.

 

[fmahovalich]

Your posts in this thread are so unbelievably stupid and clueless I don't know how can function in real life.

This from a minority....with 12 posts....who in another thread argues one should not wash their hands after urinating; and in his only SP review readily admits he was rebuffed by her!

Pal...look inside first lad!

 

[fuji]

Manji. The tape hasn't been verified. That's the point. Your post assumes it does. Until it appears it didn't happen. Period.

That is just desperate talk from Ford Nation cultists, everybody else knows there is a video. Disbelieving multiple media outlets is kook talk.

Doug dealt 'em and Rob smokes 'em. The only question is what was in the pipe. The video doesn't lie, the Star, Gawker, and the Globe don't lie. But Somali drug dealers might, and its their word that it was crack.

 

[fuji]

I suspect the Star had the original idea to run with this video story. They had the pics with the dead drug dealer....and then somehow GAVE it to Gawker....in the USA..to blow the lid off.

When you get to this kind of goofy conspiracy theory it's time to look for medications.

 

[Garrett]

my counter offer is 20$ and a hand job. i will wear a glove so it's not gay.

Deal. I will send over Ramone for the handjob... feel free to gay it up as much as you want.

 

[Garrett]

That is just desperate talk from Ford Nation cultists, everybody else knows there is a video. Disbelieving multiple media outlets is kook talk.

Most media outlets explicitly state they have not seen the video,and are only going on claims by The Star and Gawker.

Doug dealt 'em and Rob smokes 'em. The only question is what was in the pipe. The video doesn't lie, the Star, Gawker, and the Globe don't lie. But Somali drug dealers might, and its their word that it was crack.

Of course they lie. They print retractions all the time. Proving malice can be difficult. None of the accusations would hold up in a court of law at this point in time.

 

[gargravarrh]

http://warrenkinsella.com/2013/05/in-sundays-sun-for-the-love-god-just-go/

Totally sums up my viewpoint on the matter.

 

[Fred Zed]

The officer very specifically stated that the Ford name never came up. Ever. So at worst he may have sold a few dimes to a couple of buddies when he picked up some personal.

There is no proof that the caller is ex-police . The fact he said ' God bless Ford Nation' at the end of his call makes me doubt his authenticity. So what if Ford's name never came up in police investigations ?
Sometimes people have committed more serious crimes like murder and their names never came up in investigations for years ?

 

[oldjones]

Of course they were. The Star was being accused of a Ford witch hunt, so they passed their story on to a secondary source (like Gawker). It would also be a lot harder for Ford to potentially sue Gawker because they're located in US

A newspaper gave away a scoop because someone imagined that might lessen the fuming about witch hunts—not even a breath of a lawsuit yet—from Ford, as they report yet more of his fumbles and failures?

You can't really believe that unrealistic, illogical twaddle.

 

[Senshihawk]

There is no proof that the caller is ex-police . The fact he said ' God bless Ford Nation' at the end of his call makes me doubt his authenticity. So what if Ford's name never came up in police investigations ?
Sometimes people have committed more serious crimes like murder and their names never came up in investigations for years ?

To bad the so called "cop" who called in yesterday didn't make mention of this ongoing investigation:

Toronto police spoke to Mayor Ford’s senior staffer after tip linked killing to alleged drug video


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...illing-to-alleged-drug-video/article12163629/

A senior member of Rob Ford’s office was interviewed by police last week about a tip linking a video allegedly showing the mayor smoking illicit drugs to a recent Toronto homicide, two separate sources have confirmed.

The staffer felt compelled to share the tip, which came to him from someone else in the mayor’s office, with police because it could constitute evidence in a homicide investigation.

The staffer did not verify the credibility of the information.

Two officers interviewed the staffer away from City Hall, according to a source with knowledge of the meeting.

The mayor has repeatedly denied the existence of a video.

Toronto police refused to comment on the interview. The mayor’s spokesperson did not respond to requests for comment on the story.

The tip came into the mayor’s office shortly after reports surfaced in the Toronto Star and on Gawker.com regarding the existence of a video allegedly showing Mr. Ford smoking crack cocaine.

The informant in the mayor’s office purported to know the address and unit number where the video was being held.

They went on to say that the video originally belonged to an individual who may have been killed for its potentially valuable contents, according to a source.

The video clip was allegedly offered for sale to the Star and Gawker by men involved in the drug trade, according to reports in both outlets. Gawker is trying to raise $200,000 for the video through an online campaign.

Both media reports were accompanied by a photo, provided by the men selling the video, that allegedly shows Mr. Ford standing with a man believed to be Anthony Smith, a 21-year-old man gunned down in downtown Toronto in March.

Mr. Ford broke a seven-day silence about the allegations on Friday. “I do not use crack cocaine, nor am I an addict of crack cocaine,” he said in a speech at City Hall. “As for a video, I cannot comment on a video that I have never seen or does not exist.”

On Sunday, he was more unequivocal about the video’s existence, telling a caller to his weekly radio show, “There’s no video, so you can’t comment on something that doesn’t exist.”

 

[Ridgeman08]

I didn't read this whole thread... but I have been following the story in the media... here are the facts as I see them:

1. a couple guys claim to have a video
2. video for sale for $200,000 G
3. a media resource that has a history of ragging on the mayor claims to have seen it, and print about its contents
4. no video has surfaced
5. guys who say they had it, and would sell it cannot be located

Conclusion: It doesn't exist and this is a big witch hunt

Come on people... doesn't ANYONE think it is just a little ironic that the bleeding heart loonies at the Toronto Star that are always preaching about innocent until proven guilty are perpetuating this bull shit?

Give yours heads a shake. :frusty:

 

[fun-guy]

Hmm...given that this sounds like 80% of the elected officials out there, I'm having a tough time picturing the guy as a villain because he's an overzealous volunteer.

I mean how many other elected politicians out there are donating their own time to volunteer with a youth sports team? And it's not like he turned his back on them, he was turfed, for what to date is nothing more than conjecture.

Groggy mentioned several failures by Ford but for some reason you only commented on one, which is his volunteer time. So I'll rebut your nonsensical comment on Ford's volunteering with a youth sports team.

I, and tens of thousands of other Canadians, also volunteer their time, but it's not done on Company time. I volunteered to help youth in my younger days but not when my company was paying my salary on their time. I volunteered after my work time, in my personal time. Ford volunteers during his work time when the taxpayers are paying his salary, is that really volunteering when he's getting paid? Not to mention he's the mayor, way more important position than I had when volunteering. Mayors have their plates full to serve the citizens of their city, little time left over to volunteer so Ford does it on company time. How many mayors do you know who regularly volunteer to help youth organizations their time at the expense of taxpayers?

 

[fun-guy]

I didn't read this whole thread... but I have been following the story in the media... here are the facts as I see them:

1. a couple guys claim to have a video
2. video for sale for $200,000 G
3. a media resource that has a history of ragging on the mayor claims to have seen it, and print about its contents
4. no video has surfaced
5. guys who say they had it, and would sell it cannot be located

Conclusion: It doesn't exist and this is a big witch hunt

Come on people... doesn't ANYONE think it is just a little ironic that the bleeding heart loonies at the Toronto Star that are always preaching about innocent until proven guilty are perpetuating this bull shit?

Give yours heads a shake. :frusty:

and you don't think others have thought of this as well?

What bothers us is if someone of such a high profile position feels that he/she is being slandered with complete, udder bullshit and lies that will hurt his/her position in life and the ability to earn future income due to the slander, wouldn't one sue the other party who is slandering them? I find it strange that the Ford's wouldn't sue for millions against the Star, Globe and Gawker. If the Ford's feel the reports are complete lies and have a slam dunk case why don't they sue? Doug's feeble comment on this is how can two little guys go against Goliaths in court when they have way more money. That's bullshit. Perhaps the reason is there is some truth to the reports and they don't want to be stripped clean in courts for the whole world to see.

 

[groggy]

I didn't read this whole thread... but I have been following the story in the media... here are the facts as I see them:

1. a couple guys claim to have a video
2. video for sale for $200,000 G
3. a media resource that has a history of ragging on the mayor claims to have seen it, and print about its contents
4. no video has surfaced
5. guys who say they had it, and would sell it cannot be located

Conclusion: It doesn't exist and this is a big witch hunt

Come on people... doesn't ANYONE think it is just a little ironic that the bleeding heart loonies at the Toronto Star that are always preaching about innocent until proven guilty are perpetuating this bull shit?

Give yours heads a shake. :frusty:

Lets update that list a little.
1. two sources claim that a video exist, both provide similar descriptions, one being a newspaper has quite a bit to risk were it false.
2. the video is offered up for 5 figures, Gawker decides to try to raise $200k to buy it.
3. the mayor offers partial denials, but uses weasel words that leave all media unsatisfied with his answers
4. Gawker says it can't locate the dealer anymore.
5. Globe reports that the police talked to the Mayor's office about knowledge of the location of the video and the death of a drug dealer.
6. Ford goes on radio and claims the video doesn't exist.

 

[fun-guy]

I think we will all find that gawker is a pawn here.....and in fact....the tape is already in custody of the STAR.....but, not wanting to be seen as 'paying' for it....have left the collection to Gawker.

Really? Just as comical as your suggestion that the Star already has the tape, how about this comical theory:

The Ford's have already ensured the tape is in their control by paying off a third party to obtain the tape and is in safekeeping thousands of miles away and never to be seen. The media will never be able to produce it and will look like idiots and the Ford train moves on. Latest polls indicate this recent mess has not hurt Rob in the least, same percentage support but will still lose to either Chow or Tory.

 

[fmahovalich]

These straw polls that are run, two years ahead of an election, really mean nothing. Just some ammunition often used by the media to spice up a current news topic.

Ford was seen to clearly be losing in the last election when he pounded the rest of the field for the decisive victory.

Truth be told, no one knows how the next election will shape up.

Chow has expressed no interest.
Stintz has expressed no interest.
Heck, Im not certain even Ford is going to run again.

So I would only see these polls as fuel to throw on today's fire!

 

[train]

A newspaper gave away a scoop because someone imagined that might lessen the fuming about witch hunts—not even a breath of a lawsuit yet—from Ford, as they report yet more of his fumbles and failures?

You can't really believe that unrealistic, illogical twaddle.

You have to admit that the Star has become more of a tabloid farce than the Sun and that they have a hard-on for Ford. Not exactly Pulitzer stuff given that Ford is such an easy target.

 

[Ridgeman08]

Lets update that list a little.
1. two sources claim that a video exist, both provide similar descriptions, one being a newspaper has quite a bit to risk were it false.
2. the video is offered up for 5 figures, Gawker decides to try to raise $200k to buy it.
3. the mayor offers partial denials, but uses weasel words that leave all media unsatisfied with his answers
4. Gawker says it can't locate the dealer anymore.
5. Globe reports that the police talked to the Mayor's office about knowledge of the location of the video and the death of a drug dealer.
6. Ford goes on radio and claims the video doesn't exist.

Or, maybe the so called "video evidence" was discovered to be falsified...

Either way, I'm guessing he just wants everyone to shut the fuck up about it?

Not to mention... maybe he IS planning on filing suit. (He would likely need a pile of legal council as a result... and maybe he hasn't had time due to all the BS going around... )

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

To bad the so called "cop" who called in yesterday didn't make mention of this ongoing investigation:

Toronto police spoke to Mayor Ford’s senior staffer after tip linked killing to alleged drug video


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...illing-to-alleged-drug-video/article12163629/

A senior member of Rob Ford’s office was interviewed by police last week about a tip linking a video allegedly showing the mayor smoking illicit drugs to a recent Toronto homicide, two separate sources have confirmed.

Tomorrow's Toronto Star headlines:

MAYOR ROB FORD SUSPECTED OF MURDERING DRUG DEALER, AND TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE.

(all this according to anonymous sources which The Star can't reveal)