People who don't take off their shoes...

afterhours

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What part do you not understand . We are not in England , Paris or Western Europe . Who cares what they do over there ??? If the Queen were to wipe her ass with only her hand after taking a shit does that mean that we have to do the same over here .

Any US house I've been in the shoes come off .

Peasant stock ??? Is that the Queen your talking about or is it Good Old Charlie that was fucking around on his wife with an old bag . Just because one doesn't have any money doesn't make them a peasant . It's people with money , talking like that are the true peasants of society. Money doesn't give you class . It just means that people with no class have money .
maybe not necessarily but in a vast majority of cases it kinda has to though
Mark Twain said: Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society.
 

Samurai Joey

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Pretty much the golden standard as a snap shop of both hygiene and basic medical services is the Neonatal mortality rate. Other factors have huge impacts once you are born.

So how does Canada compare to UK? UK has about 25% lower Neonatal mortality rate. So guess the colonies really need to improve their basic hygiene?
Neonatal mortality rates are influenced by far more than just hygiene and basic medical services (and by basic medical care I'm referring to access to hospitals or family physicians). They are also influenced by such factors as the availability of prenatal care and more generally to other social factors such as poverty, income inequalities (which are often highly correlated to access to available health care sectors) and availability of nutrition.

Therefore, the fact that the neonatal mortality rates between the UK and say, the US and Canada (with equivalent neonatal mortality rates) may not actually have anything to do with hygiene. (And by the way, according to the UN data that you quote, Japan beats all 3 in terms of neonatal mortality rates at 1 per 1000).
 

Samurai Joey

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In England peasant stock goes barefoot in houses. People with at least a bit of money wear shoes. Same in Paris. I believe it is also the same in most western European cities and most of US. And of course we had running water long before they managed it in Canada.
mrsCALoki, it's a little silly to make the comment about England having running water long before Canada given that England is a far older nation than Canada. But I digress.

On another front, I find your attitude about wearing shoes inside homes rather curious given that your mother is half-Chinese (and brought up in Hong Kong, according to your previous posts) since the Chinese, much like other Asians, have strict rules about taking off one's shoes inside homes. I would have thought that you would have been brought up with at least part of those values, even though you were born and raised in England.
 

mrsCALoki

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Neonatal mortality rates are influenced by far more than just hygiene and basic medical services (and by basic medical care I'm referring to access to hospitals or family physicians). They are also influenced by such factors as the availability of prenatal care and more generally to other social factors such as poverty, income inequalities (which are often highly correlated to access to available health care sectors) and availability of nutrition.

Therefore, the fact that the neonatal mortality rates between the UK and say, the US and Canada (with equivalent neonatal mortality rates) may not actually have anything to do with hygiene. (And by the way, according to the UN data that you quote, Japan beats all 3 in terms of neonatal mortality rates at 1 per 1000).
What you say is true. There are a variety of factors in "Children's Health and Safety". By the way the newest UN study released this month has dropped Canada to 27th of 29 Industrial Nations studied when it comes to "Children's Health and Safety"/

Pretty much all we can say with confidence is there is no conclusive studies that show there is an advantage to wearing or not wearing foot ware in homes. And certainly not for people who wear "house shoes" as opposed to stockings. (Ignoring the assorted bunion studies).
 

mrsCALoki

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mrsCALoki, it's a little silly to make the comment about England having running water long before Canada given that England is a far older nation than Canada. But I digress.

On another front, I find your attitude about wearing shoes inside homes rather curious given that your mother is half-Chinese (and brought up in Hong Kong, according to your previous posts) since the Chinese, much like other Asians, have strict rules about taking off one's shoes inside homes. I would have thought that you would have been brought up with at least part of those values, even though you were born and raised in England.
Wearing shoes was also a big discussion with my Canadian husband. LOL

I had not been to Hong Kong till I visited very recently. My relatives did not wander around their homes barefoot. At the step into the house they had house slippers to wear indoors. I did not ask but it seemed the norm to them. They were horrified when Loki entered in his stocking feet.

I have no idea if they are unique, if it is a Hong Kong thing, or whatever. But they did not go barefoot or in their stocking feet.

Growing up in London we were fully westernized and followed the customs of those in our social circle.
 

wigglee

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I usually ask, but if there are no carpets , how does the host know that my sweaty socks are not more toxic than my dry shoes?

....and why would I want to wear some dubious slippers that who knows who has worn before me?
 

mrsCALoki

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I usually ask, but if there are no carpets , how does the host know that my sweaty socks are not more toxic than my dry shoes?

....and why would I want to wear some dubious slippers that who knows who has worn before me?
I think the Hong Kong idea is you wear your own indoor foot wear, not random ones. And you have clean one for guests.

In my childhood home in London, you always wore shoes or slippers except when bathing or getting into bed.

Not better or worse, just different.
 

rev80

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Outdoor shoes inside? In an Italian house? Good luck!

I like to keep my home impeccablly spotless (floors are not just swept and mopped but steam cleaned as well). I cringe at the thought of someone who has been trotting about in all the shit on the street and then then tracking all that dirt, sand and God only knows what else on my radiant heated $50/sq ft. flooring.

Keep your feet clean and if you have a foot odor probkem wear appropriate footwear that allows your feat to breathe so they don't smell (Geox is great for this). If you should arrive barefoot at my house I specifically keep new slippers / sandals For those individuals.

Pretty Simple.



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I'm not here

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Marble floors in the house, so all shoes are removed before entering. Otherwise, we have to get them polished after a few years and it's a real PITA to move all the furniture, flood it with water and have it polished.
 

afterhours

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when my outcalls come they always ask whether they can keep shoes on...
 
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