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The race to the bottom: Unpaid internships: the most precarious work of all

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Anya Oberdorf has a university degree, a college certificate and experience with two employers in the publishing industry, but still can’t find a paying job. She spent more than a year working two unpaid internships, neither of which led to gainful employment.
After working part-time in a gourmet food store to pay the bills, she left to focus on finding work in her field. Though she’s been able to secure a few freelance editing jobs, the elusive salaried position still eludes her.
“My experience has been really frustrating,” said the Toronto native. “I can’t afford a third internship, but I don’t want to sit around at home, either.”
Oberdorf’s story is far from unique. Young people are stringing together multiple unpaid internships, and it’s not always helping them find a job — breaking an implicit promise that has drawn a generation of workers into offering their work for free.
Unpaid internships that last months or even years make up the most unstable part of an increasingly precarious workforce, which accounts for almost half of employment in the GTA and Hamilton, according to a recent report.
Very few facts are known about unpaid internships. The Ministry of Labour doesn’t regulate or keep statistics on them. Yet, for young people, they seem to be everywhere.
According to Statistics Canada, unemployment in Ontario for those younger than 24 is 16.5 per cent. That’s more than double the rate of 6.3 per cent for those above 24.
“You won’t find the word ‘intern’ in our employment laws at all. It’s an industry term,” said David Doorey, professor of employment law at York University. “There seems to be a widely held belief that an employer avoids our basic employment law rules simply by labelling someone an intern. That’s wrong.”
In many sectors of the economy, internships seem to have replaced entry-level positions, forcing young people to work without pay for years till they gain enough experience to get hired for mid-level jobs, says Toronto lawyer and internship critic Andrew Langille.
“Exploitation of unpaid interns has reached epidemic levels,” Langille said.
Langille estimates tens of thousands of people are misclassified as interns by their employers. “As a result of this mischaracterization these young people forgo wages, can’t collect EI, and aren’t credited with contributions to CPP,” said Langille, who monitors internship job postings on his blog and often intervenes in an attempt to see that minimum wage is paid.
Much of the confusion stems from a Ministry of Labour fact sheet posted in 2011.
“There are no regulations pertaining to unpaid internships,” the fact sheet explains, before going on to outline the exceptions to labour law where less than minimum wage can be paid.
Six conditions must be met, including one that stipulates internships cannot lead to paid work — a promise often used to attract young people to unpaid internships in the first place.
An unpaid intern can’t do work that would otherwise be done by a paid employee, nor can the employer benefit from their work, the fact sheet says.
While it may seem clear, there is lots of wiggle room for employers in current labour law. Exemptions to labour law can be made for many reasons, said the Ministry of Labour’s Gisele Rivet.
People in training, volunteers, co-ops, apprenticeships and a variety of other categories of workers aren’t classified as employees under Ontario labour law, she said.
Yet even the labour ministry can’t clearly explain what a legal or illegal internship would look like. “I can’t say whether it’s a lawful situation. We have to look at the facts of the situation. We’d have to have somebody investigate . . . to determine whether the general rules apply or an exemption or special rule applies,” Rivet said.
With unpaid internships so widespread, critics say it’s time to address them in law instead of treating them as an exception.
“It may be time for governments to consider introducing a permit system,” said York University’s Doorey. “This would allow the government to verify that internships are not being used as a method to obtain free labour.”
Nav Bhandal, a Mississauga labour and employment lawyer, says people fear filing complaints because they want a job and don’t want to anger prospective employers.
There have been very few cases of interns suing for wages — he knows of only one — which makes it hard to interpret exactly what the law means.
“We need people who are going to take a stand,” he said.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/03/05/unpaid_internships_the_most_precarious_work_of_all.html
 

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Unfortunately, very few post-secondary programs come with a practical on the job experience such as a practicum placement or co-op work placement. Students have to really adopt a mindset that they are taking a "volunteer" job, not necessarily an internship. That way, they won't foster as much resentment for not being paid. These kinds of "internships" are notorious especially in certain communities like the Chinese community...where grown adults take jobs that don't pay them at Chinese companies in Toronto, and then are able to put down on their resume that they have Canadian experience, and they have a reference as well. But in my opinion no unpaid internship should really be more than 6 months. People have to earn something to live eventually.
 
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If there are people dumb enough to work for free, there will always be someone smart enough to let them.
 

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If there are people dumb enough to work for free, there will always be someone smart enough to let them.
These people aren't dumb at all. They know that in a competitive job market, they are a dime a dozen...if you have two candidates, both with degrees, one with no work experience and has been moping around for a year because they won't take an "unpaid" position, and another who has some work experience under their belt from and unpaid position...well there is simply no comparision as to who will get the "paid" position in today's job market,
 

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is it possible to go on welfare while doing an unpaid internship?
Sure if you qualified...but people doing unpaid internships are likely to want something better...many probably have part-time jobs on the side which make them ineligible.
 

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You know how worthless you degree is when...
 

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And your solution is?

Whiners and complainers are a dime-a-dozen
outlaw unpaid internships if they are not related to college credits
 

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I did my unpaid Journalism internship in Thailand and another in the U.S.
I had the opportunity to meet amazing people, learn a great deal and publish articles I would never have had the chance or support to even look at here. I worked for expat magazines, niche oriented but still a valuable experience for me
 

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I did my unpaid Journalism internship in Thailand and another in the U.S.
I had the opportunity to meet amazing people, learn a great deal and publish articles I would never have had the chance or support to even look at here. I worked for expat magazines, niche oriented but still a valuable experience for me
I'd like to hire you as an unpaid escort intern!
 

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Internships can be a good opportunity to gain work experience but I believe the employer should provide at least transportation costs to the interns they hire. I have had a few friends who have interned and they were to afraid to ask for compensation for transportation in the fear they could lose their internship. However at the same time they were struggling to get to their place of internship because they did not have enough money either for bus fare or gas. I also think the company should hire an intern after a certain amount of time or at least help them to find a job in that respective field.
 
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Sweet!!! I like that sayin BUT some people are put into vulnerable positions of exploitation inorder to " earn their stripes "
 
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These people aren't dumb at all. They know that in a competitive job market, they are a dime a dozen...if you have two candidates, both with degrees, one with no work experience and has been moping around for a year because they won't take an "unpaid" position, and another who has some work experience under their belt from and unpaid position...well there is simply no comparision as to who will get the "paid" position in today's job market,
So, if someone told you that the career path you were to choose required you to work for free for a year for the POSSIBILITY to get a paid position, would you follow that path or choose another?
 

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To me the most often uses of this type of labor is in the wine industry - where volunteers help with the crush or bottling process. I know many people who do this in the bay area, one is literally a rocket scientist and he gives away his time because he likes a connection to the industry.

My daughter did an unpaid internship, she's a fine arts student and she wanted the exposure and the ability to create something without any materials costs...

People are pretty good at making their own decisions, perhaps Canada-man needs a government regulation to tell him what he's allowed to do but the rest of us can look after ourselves.

OTB
 

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Haven't heard from MSOG in a while. Is is possible his internship is over at the hospital and now it's time to joint the real world?
 

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To me the most often uses of this type of labor is in the wine industry - where volunteers help with the crush or bottling process. I know many people who do this in the bay area, one is literally a rocket scientist and he gives away his time because he likes a connection to the industry.

My daughter did an unpaid internship, she's a fine arts student and she wanted the exposure and the ability to create something without any materials costs...

People are pretty good at making their own decisions, perhaps Canada-man needs a government regulation to tell him what he's allowed to do but the rest of us can look after ourselves.

OTB

unlike you i am not a sucker that would "volunteer" my self to be used as free labour for companies and "non-profits" making billions of bucks and the folks at the top making 6 and 7 figure salaries. history books call this slavery
 

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unlike you i am not a sucker that would "volunteer" my self to be used as free labour for companies and "non-profits" making billions of bucks and the folks at the top making 6 and 7 figure salaries. history books call this slavery
No, slavery is when you have to do it, volunteering is when you choose to do it....
 
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