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toughb

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If sig. pics bother you then use Adblock to block them out. Simple.
 

fuji

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If sig. pics bother you then use Adblock to block them out. Simple.
Because of the low quality control of sig pics on terb, I browse with them disabled. You can disable display of sig pics in your general options (forum actions -> general options), and they will never be displayed ever again, for anyone. You can then click through someone's name and view their profile page if you really want to see their signature. Sad that I had to do it, but what with all the gay porn in signatures, giant pics, and other nonsense, there was no other way to make the forum usable.
 

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I'd also note that when I browse using a PC there is an option to disable the display of images completely. All images then show up as a link, which you can choose to click on.

Unfortunately when you use the android app it still shows them anyway, which obviously can be disturbing if it's a thread started by toughb. However for desktop solutions, this will give you a chance to read the commentary on a thread before actually viewing the images. Again, forum actions -> generation options, you can uncheck display images.
 

toughb

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I'm enjoying them too Femme! Only one problem though is that they make me incredibly horny!! Not so good on a night when I'm stuck at home! LOL!


Puts up hand. May I be of some assistance in this area???
 

Medman52

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I'm 100% heterosexual straight but even I must say THAT is one nice cock!! But, it's a teeny weenie! Got any pics of REAL cocks to compete with us REAL men? ;)

We should start a thread where members can post pics of their members!! :Eek:
 

The Fruity Hare

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I'm 100% heterosexual straight but even I must say THAT is one nice cock!! But, it's a teeny weenie! Got any pics of REAL cocks to compete with us REAL men? ;)

We should start a thread where members can post pics of their members!! :Eek:
If you can't beat them, ...

If you build it, they will come. Since it appears this issue is not going to die down, perhaps it is time to open up a gay section on TERB.
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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One obvious difference is that there is no girl in your pic. If the pic is a guy and a girl, I am either relatively indifferent or relatively turned on. If the latter, I am imaging that I am the guy in the picture. In which case, I focus mostly on the girl and what is being done to her and simply fantasize that I am the one doing the deed.

Agreed, however there are many pics on TERB where it is just a nakid women, often not an escort, bouncing her boobs around, or spreading her ass, etc. So maybe it should be that all pics on TERB have both male and females in them to make it equal. It is also curious that you can admit that sometimes even the male/female combo that doesn't do it for you, you can feel indifferent about AND yet still move past it without issue???? Do you ask a gay couple not to walk hand and hand because it is bothersome as well?

With a single picture of a naked guy, there's nothing for me to fantasize about that doesn't creep me out. Except that you are not the only one who looks at it. Why should I have to look at things that maybe don't excite me, but not be able to post what does excite me?

Also, while I respect your initial point about fairness and equality, this is the wrong board for that. This board is all about sexualizing women for (their) profit - at least as far as most of the images being posted, some of which you have photographed yourself.
So in one thread we people saying that "blue" members get preferred treatment and that is wrong. It should be equal. Now we have a thread where you admit that it is not equal, and therefore want me to remove a pic in my siggy that I actually pay to have here.

I do pay the same as an Indy SP, yet I don't need nor would I think it would be allowed if I posted every day in the section I am allowed and now members simply because of their own personal issues, fears etc, I am being asked to limit what I put in my siggy that I again pay for. Seems like I pay for a lot to get nothing if everyone had their way. Seems a little too much on the unfair side maybe???? Would you pay for a service to only to be allowed to use half of it? It if was a pic that I personally took of the man, would I then be allowed to post it as it is a sample of my work???? Would that then be allowed, no questions asked? When as a paying member of this board am I am allowed without question, without negativity, and allowed to utilize my rights to the board?

And while I get that this is mainly an escort review board, it did stop being solely a "mens" board along time ago.

I am just pointing a few of these things out. Not every member male and female alike enjoy seeing a guy spunk all over a girls face. Not every member likes to see a women squirting. Not every member likes seeing skinny chicks, fat chicks, white/black/asian chicks. So when does the board allowed for some equality? When it suits you and you alone??? Or those that are liked minded with you? You have a couple of ladies here who like the pic, a couple of guys who don't care, and options to avoid seeing things. Why is your complaint more important that my or anyone's right to post what they want so long as no rules are being broken? Would I be allowed to post a siggy of 2 extremely obese people fucking hard with blubber flying all over?????? If it was what I liked, and being a couple? Even if it was morbidly grotesque to some?

I simply do not for the life me understand when you have the power to use options on the board to ignore what you do not like, why that is not used but instead that member is told to just stop. "Stop what you are doing because I don't like it. Because I am not going to the responsibility myself to use the tools I have available to me to make it stop on my own. No - you have to do it for me because that is what I want" Sorry but that just not fly with me.

Lastly, and I think this is important. I do watch gay porn. Male on male. Most guys watch gay porn, female on female and enjoy it. I as a woman happen to enjoy gay porn as well, it is male on male for me. Seems to make sense. Gay porn is gay porn. To each their own is my opinion.

I still have not yet decided if I will lose it or keep it. It started out as an equality issue, but I have actually received a lot of support on this one. Both men and women alike saying to keep it, and looking forward to the weekly change out. I admit I do like the pic myself. I have a huge collection to choose from. It is exciting to scroll through and find pics I think some members will like. I have also thought of adding to my own personal collection from my own man and posting what I love to play with the most. I am a photographer after all and enjoy the cock. Sue me! I am a woman who knows what she likes. So I guess in closing, I will have to think about your request. You are right in the way it started out, but it seems there is much more to think about now. I will need to take that time.

Again, for the sake of the debate and respect for you as I am directly quoting you, I will not include my signature in this post.
 

Narg

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Femme - In answer to your first question: No, I do not ask gay couples not to walk hand in hand. Nor, for that matter, do I have issues with male nudity at the Pride Parade. I do not particularly like public displays of intimacy between gay couples (like kissing), but I recognize that they have a right to do so, that this does not really affect my life and that upholding certain priciples is worth much more than the cost of simply causing me some discomfort. However, none of that is relevant to the issue of posting pictures of naked men on this board.

First, unless moderating rules are changed, I acknowledge that you have a right to post pictures of naked men on this board. Second, I acknowledge that men and women should be treated as equally as possible in Canadian society. (We could argue for pages and pages over the extent to which complete equality between the sexes is even possible or desireable, but I frankly don't have the time).

Also, let me be clear - I am intending to debate, not attack. I am not ordering you to stop posting pictures of naked men, I am not demanding that you stop, I am not going to hold my breath until I turn blue if you do not stop, I will just put you on ignore and move on with my life. That's a cost benefit analysis for me, because I enjoy responding to some of your comments.

My argument is that, while you have the right to post pictures of naked men in your signature line, you simply should not exercise that right on this board. On THIS board, the sexes are not equal. While I have no problem respecting the opinions of (many of) the women who post on this board, this is an escort site. Women are renting their bodies out to men for money. Women on this site are necessarily objectified and commoditized. Many of the women posting on this board have signature lines with revealing pictures of themselves as advertising. In essence, they are showing off the product that their customers will be renting. For every man who visits this site and hires an escort for her converstation, charm, personality, knowledge and wit, there's probably another 5 guys hiring her for her looks alone.

You make some of your money by participating in the same process. Some of your photos (of your escort clients) are also intended to objectify women - to make them look as sexy as possible so their customers will want to pay money to have sex with them. To the extent that any pictures you post would turn men off, then you are doing your clients a disservice.

To use your example, so far as I am aware, you can post pictures of obese people having sex. For that matter, you could post clips from "Two Girls, One Cup", if you wanted. However, again, this board is not actually an even playing field between the sexes. If the images/gifs you were posting began to turn men off (or away), you would be reducing the efficacy of the advertising that various escorts pay for. Men are the customers on this board. You are not a customer. You are not the target of the advertising. That's why you should not be posting pictures which turn you on but not the customers of your clients.
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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Femme - In answer to your first question: No, I do not ask gay couples not to walk hand in hand. Nor, for that matter, do I have issues with male nudity at the Pride Parade. I do not particularly like public displays of intimacy between gay couples (like kissing), but I recognize that they have a right to do so, that this does not really affect my life and that upholding certain priciples is worth much more than the cost of simply causing me some discomfort. However, none of that is relevant to the issue of posting pictures of naked men on this board.

First, unless moderating rules are changed, I acknowledge that you have a right to post pictures of naked men on this board. Second, I acknowledge that men and women should be treated as equally as possible in Canadian society. (We could argue for pages and pages over the extent to which complete equality between the sexes is even possible or desireable, but I frankly don't have the time).

Also, let me be clear - I am intending to debate, not attack. I am not ordering you to stop posting pictures of naked men, I am not demanding that you stop, I am not going to hold my breath until I turn blue if you do not stop, I will just put you on ignore and move on with my life. That's a cost benefit analysis for me, because I enjoy responding to some of your comments.

My argument is that, while you have the right to post pictures of naked men in your signature line, you simply should not exercise that right on this board. On THIS board, the sexes are not equal. While I have no problem respecting the opinions of (many of) the women who post on this board, this is an escort site. Women are renting their bodies out to men for money. Women on this site are necessarily objectified and commoditized. Many of the women posting on this board have signature lines with revealing pictures of themselves as advertising. In essence, they are showing off the product that their customers will be renting. For every man who visits this site and hires an escort for her converstation, charm, personality, knowledge and wit, there's probably another 5 guys hiring her for her looks alone.

You make some of your money by participating in the same process. Some of your photos (of your escort clients) are also intended to objectify women - to make them look as sexy as possible so their customers will want to pay money to have sex with them. To the extent that any pictures you post would turn men off, then you are doing your clients a disservice.

To use your example, so far as I am aware, you can post pictures of obese people having sex. For that matter, you could post clips from "Two Girls, One Cup", if you wanted. However, again, this board is not actually an even playing field between the sexes. If the images/gifs you were posting began to turn men off (or away), you would be reducing the efficacy of the advertising that various escorts pay for. Men are the customers on this board. You are not a customer. You are not the target of the advertising. That's why you should not be posting pictures which turn you on but not the customers of your clients.
I am sorry but to say that I should not post pics of men that turn other men off because my client list may drop is ridiculous. My client base is ladies. Not men. So by default if I had pics that turn women on, it would prove a better marketing strategy. That to me seems like nothing more then a ploy, a bad one at that, to falsely get what you want in the end. It would make no sense to post pics that turn women off and men on simply because this board is male dominated. Not for me anyway. That is a form of male entitlement that most women on this board are hugely turned off by. To say that men are the sole customers of this board is arrogant and 100% completely false. You have just single handedly dismissed every women on this board. Which is sad in my humble opinion. I get that it is that way for you, but that is simply not the reality of this board. Although I understand why you may simply not be able to see it in that regard based on your reasons for being here.

Also, my photos are not intended to objectify women at all. I will 100% disagree with that. My photos are meant to empower women, get them in touch with their erotic side, their feminine side, and while yes - showcase their available good for sale, I am hired simply because I can bring art and eroticism without the need for full nudity and crass style photography. If you think that taking a picture to make a person look as best as they possibly can is objectivity then we are on 2 completely different pages. I will also go as far to say that most women would be more offended by your comments regarding them on this board, then by my choice to post male nude pics. I will even go one step further in that I have taken pics of ladies that would never ever have gotten pics. Women who have self image issues, etc and after a session with me have seen their bodies and themselves in a whole new light. Bringing back their sexiness for them. That is my primary goal. It is to make them feel like superwoman every time they see a pic of themselves. regardless of it is to showcase here or in their own personal collections, which I do a lot of as well. Shoots are often divided into "work" pics and "personal" pics.

Lastly, I have been requested by males on this board for my photography as well. Based, I believe solely on my openness about sexuality as a whole and my professionalism in shoot. I would have no issue with providing pics of both male and females in truly erotic forms as that is my personal passion and one that I know many on this site are open too. My ideas of different styles of "cock shot" is a huge list that I would personally love to the chance to do AND showcase. As I am not fully back to work yet, I have not marketed heavily for those type of service offering but I know the market is there, and I know that many men would love to showcase my work for them after all is said in done. So again the debate of what turns men on even in this area of the net seems to be a bit off from what you personally believe. I only say this because I know from experience based on the support of this siggy AND the past requests I have gotten.

So I guess in closing, I completely disagree with where you are coming regarding the reason for the removal of my signature pic. I feel that it is nothing more then personal preference on your part, which is fine, but it is not something that I am going to allow to be a huge deciding factor in my choice of whether I keep the signature or not. I mean that as respectfully as possible of course.
 

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MFF, just mark your threads so that it is obvious what someone will see when they open it. Then people can choose for themselves.

Everyone who comes to terb expects to see male oriented porn because it is a board about men fucking women. We all kind of implicitly consent and the advertising here itself is basically such porn.

People do not consent to see gay porn just by coming here and viewing a thread on a neutral topic. Maybe you have revolutionary political beliefs that they should, maybe you have some ideological agenda that we all have wrong ideas, but for now we don't. Let's debate that in words, maybe in the political section.

So out of respect for the beliefs of others, what I would call common decency, by all means I encourage you to post up all the naked men you want, but do so in a way that offers others the choice of whether to view it or not.
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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MFF, just mark your threads so that it is obvious what someone will see when they open it. Then people can choose for themselves.

Everyone who comes to terb expects to see male oriented porn because it is a board about men fucking women. We all kind of implicitly consent and the advertising here itself is basically such porn.

People do not consent to see gay porn just by coming here and viewing a thread on a neutral topic. Maybe you have revolutionary political beliefs that they should, but they don't.

So out if respect for the beliefs of others, what I would call common decency, by all means post up all the naked men you want, but do so in a easy that offers others the choice of whether to view it or not.

I agree that if I was labeling a thread with a pic, I would label so that it was easily known to the user. 100% I get that. I guess the issue here is with it in a siggy. By which you only have the choice to view, block me personally, or disable siggy or image viewing. That and that alone is the ONLY reason I am debating on the siggy. I recognize and acknowledge the difference.

I know I come across as hard, opinionated, bitchy even. It has been said time and time again that I not that way, but people never know that until they meet me. I am not different on the board then in real life, but my light-hearted tone and easy going attitude never seems to come across the way I want. I am however fair, I believe anyway. So in the sense of common decency and the fact I to truly like this board for the most part, I am thinking about the affect on others vrs my own right to post whatever I like. I have no issues with sacrifice for the greater good of the community as a whole. However it would be nice to see that returned sometimes. I doubt that will happen in my case however. Too many men like to tell me to fuck off simply because I have a pussy and a mouth I use not solely for sucking cock. I admit that sometimes it is nice to throw their shit right back at them.

So as of now, it is up for debate still. I have always agree with the saying "just because you have the right to post, doesn't mean you should" I apply this to others and to myself. The jury is still out. I am weighing my options and the opinions of others. I will make the choice that I feel is best for ALL parties concerned at the end of it.
 

patton

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She has the right to post the pic
End of story there is no debate
I find a lot things offensive on this site and I have the choice to keep logging on or not.
I don't understand what the argument is about?
It's so simple
 

Ms.FemmeFatale

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She has the right to post the pic
End of story there is no debate
I find a lot things offensive on this site and I have the choice to keep logging on or not.
I don't understand what the argument is about?
It's so simple
I feel this is more of debate for those of us who like a good debate. It is really not that big of an issue, but I thank you for the support.
 

Narg

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I am sorry but to say that I should not post pics of men that turn other men off because my client list may drop is ridiculous. My client base is ladies. Not men.
I may not have expressed myself as artfully as possible. YOUR client list includes escort and others. The ESCORTS (who are your clients) have a client list of their own, which primarily includes men. Part of my argument (which you have already dismissed as a ploy) is that some of your customers' customers are men who may be (and some clearly are) turned off by your proposed sig pic. I was not arguing that you would suffer any economic damage to your client list. I did say that your actions might decrease (to an unknown degree) the efficacy of your customers' advertising on Terb. However, since I very much doubt we will reach agreement on this point, I have no plans to repeat myself.

As for your career, you are on Terb in part because you have escorts as clients (and, presumably, want to increase that client base). Regardless of how many women are flattered by your pictures and regardless of your talent, you are not always creating art or eroticism - or at least that is not the dominant purpose of some of the pictures you take of escorts. These are not pictures intended primarily for exhibition at art shows or for home use, the primary purpose of some of the pictures you take of escorts is for advertising your customers' bodies to their potential clients. While I expect that you do take pictures for a variety of reasons - some artistic, some commercial, some both - some of your pictures are intended to advertise women's bodies for rent to men. That is objectification. You make some of your money objectifying women's bodies.

I do not intend the above as criticism. That would be hypocritical. I do, however, think you overlook your role in the commercialization of sex when you take the position that your function is purely artistic.
 

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I was a blond, tried being a brunet, and a red head, and one All Saints' Eve went orange, and am blond again.

From my experience, blonds do indeed have more fun :).
 
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