Maybe blonds do have more fun...

Ms.FemmeFatale

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I may not have expressed myself as artfully as possible. YOUR client list includes escort and others. The ESCORTS (who are your clients) have a client list of their own, which primarily includes men. Part of my argument (which you have already dismissed as a ploy) is that some of your customers' customers are men who may be (and some clearly are) turned off by your proposed sig pic. I was not arguing that you would suffer any economic damage to your client list. I did say that your actions might decrease (to an unknown degree) the efficacy of your customers' advertising on Terb. However, since I very much doubt we will reach agreement on this point, I have no plans to repeat myself.

As for your career, you are on Terb in part because you have escorts as clients (and, presumably, want to increase that client base). Regardless of how many women are flattered by your pictures and regardless of your talent, you are not always creating art or eroticism - or at least that is not the dominant purpose of some of the pictures you take of escorts. These are not pictures intended primarily for exhibition at art shows or for home use, the primary purpose of some of the pictures you take of escorts is for advertising your customers' bodies to their potential clients. While I expect that you do take pictures for a variety of reasons - some artistic, some commercial, some both - some of your pictures are intended to advertise women's bodies for rent to men. That is objectification. You make some of your money objectifying women's bodies.

I do not intend the above as criticism. That would be hypocritical. I do, however, think you overlook your role in the commercialization of sex when you take the position that your function is purely artistic.
I have a reply, but I got to go too. Sorry. I do love this debate. So I will come back tomorrow. IF the thread has died down, I will just continue on via PM with you if that is ok. No siggy in PMs too, Just for you! ;)
 

wigglee

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If you can't beat them, ...

If you build it, they will come. Since it appears this issue is not going to die down, perhaps it is time to open up a gay section on TERB.
or maybe we should just tell the homophobes to get back in the closet.
 

wigglee

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I may not have expressed myself as artfully as possible. YOUR client list includes escort and others. The ESCORTS (who are your clients) have a client list of their own, which primarily includes men. Part of my argument (which you have already dismissed as a ploy) is that some of your customers' customers are men who may be (and some clearly are) turned off by your proposed sig pic. I was not arguing that you would suffer any economic damage to your client list. I did say that your actions might decrease (to an unknown degree) the efficacy of your customers' advertising on Terb. However, since I very much doubt we will reach agreement on this point, I have no plans to repeat myself.

As for your career, you are on Terb in part because you have escorts as clients (and, presumably, want to increase that client base). Regardless of how many women are flattered by your pictures and regardless of your talent, you are not always creating art or eroticism - or at least that is not the dominant purpose of some of the pictures you take of escorts. These are not pictures intended primarily for exhibition at art shows or for home use, the primary purpose of some of the pictures you take of escorts is for advertising your customers' bodies to their potential clients. While I expect that you do take pictures for a variety of reasons - some artistic, some commercial, some both - some of your pictures are intended to advertise women's bodies for rent to men. That is objectification. You make some of your money objectifying women's bodies.

I do not intend the above as criticism. That would be hypocritical. I do, however, think you overlook your role in the commercialization of sex when you take the position that your function is purely artistic.
dude....it's just a naked guy....get over yourself.
 

wigglee

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MFF, just mark your threads so that it is obvious what someone will see when they open it. Then people can choose for themselves.

Everyone who comes to terb expects to see male oriented porn because it is a board about men fucking women. We all kind of implicitly consent and the advertising here itself is basically such porn.

People do not consent to see gay porn just by coming here and viewing a thread on a neutral topic. Maybe you have revolutionary political beliefs that they should, maybe you have some ideological agenda that we all have wrong ideas, but for now we don't. Let's debate that in words, maybe in the political section.

So out of respect for the beliefs of others, what I would call common decency, by all means I encourage you to post up all the naked men you want, but do so in a way that offers others the choice of whether to view it or not.
it is not gay porn....it is a guy laying on a nude beach with a boner..... if another guy was sucking it it would be gay porn, but it is prudish and homophobic to get bothered by such a pic ( especially on terb, where I have seen plenty of disturbing sig pics, but never bothered to whine about them)
 

fuji

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it is not gay porn....it is a guy laying on a nude beach with a boner..... if another guy was sucking it it would be gay porn, but it is prudish and homophobic to get bothered by such a pic ( especially on terb, where I have seen plenty of disturbing sig pics, but never bothered to whine about them)
Looking at pics of a guy with a boner is looking at gay porn. Soft gay porn, but nonetheless not something I would like to see.

I agree that it is not the only sig pic that pushes the line, which is why I browse with sigs off.
 
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saxon

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Let's get back to the main topic. BLONDES. I know Effie White and Jenna from AHRC are blondes that have a lot of fun.
 
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