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Medical student escort says client threatens to out her.

simon482

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Advark, Simon likes to make up BS to hurt people. It is his nature, but thank you for trying to help.
except for the part about you not having any clients and never being in the business is true. remember guy, i didn't attack you till after you insulted me, me job, my quality of life, my education, where i live, who i am, what i think, what i believe. so yeah i am not making anything up, you never had clients and were never in the business, you are not some guru or sp life that knows all the tricks, in fact you know none of the tricks since you never actually were in the business.


and who the fuck is advark ?
 

d_jedi

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OK I give you that, I thought you realized that other posters using "in the basement" was factitious.
Well, when I first glanced at the story that was (mistakenly) the impression I got. But then when I thought about it for a second, the "living in his parents' basement" just didn't fit. I think they intentionally mentioned that he lived with his mother to make people think this; it's otherwise totally irrelevant.
 

my2cents

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I may have missed it in the calculations for her income and expenses but I didn't see income tax, cpp EI etc being deducted as expenses. Perhaps revenue Canada would like to know her details from the guy if she didn't pay the taxes. The guy was wrong to threaten as it would end up bad for him as it did. He should have simply asked for a receipt once she refused to return the deposit then contact revenue Canada to insure she was claiming his deposit as income. This would also mean she would have her expenses to deduct. He would still have the loss of the deposit which would be a lesson learned for him.
 

FatOne

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Advark, Simon likes to make up BS to hurt people. It is his nature, but thank you for trying to help.
Except for the part where we explain in much detail why we think you are a fictional character created by Loki
How that is the best explanation for the various flaws and contradictions in your posts.
Agree or not, the reason we post has been stated many times in many many threads you have read and responded to before you picked up on the idea of putting people who expose your bullshit on ignore.

See people, liar.
 

Questor

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There's two sides to every story. At the end of the day (unless my reading comprehension fails) the guy is out $700 and didn't get laid. Notwithstanding everything else, that's kinda sad.
He borrowed it from his mom, so its her that's out the money.
 

rhuarc29

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As a full time student / part time SP I only averaged $10k a month. If I had set a side a 3 day weekend because someone had booked it and sent a deposit I would not have been looking for back up work. I would not have made my $10k for the month if someone had cost me my working weekend. So of course I would have kept the money. This was not a regular client who after several sessions had to cancel or re-book one. It was a new guy who was pulling the plug.
I understand that point of view mrsCAloki. But keeping $1,500 or even the $700 she eventually kept is ridiculous when she didn't do anything.

We really need more info to determine who is more or less at fault. Was the deposit for travel or for insurance against lost business? My bet is the former, but I can't prove it. I don't see a deposit of $1,500 being required for a regular in-town date, even an over-nighter. Therefore, if anything, she should have only charged a cancellation fee ($100?) and re-booked the weekend if at all possible. Most med students would be happy to make a free $100. I can't see what she did as anything other than greed and stubbornness.

That said, I have no tolerance for people blackmailing other people with defamation of character in this industry. Glad the police got involved and put an end to it.
 

mrsCALoki

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I understand that point of view mrsCAloki. But keeping $1,500 or even the $700 she eventually kept is ridiculous when she didn't do anything.

We really need more info to determine who is more or less at fault. Was the deposit for travel or for insurance against lost business? My bet is the former, but I can't prove it. I don't see a deposit of $1,500 being required for a regular in-town date, even an over-nighter. Therefore, if anything, she should have only charged a cancellation fee ($100?) and re-booked the weekend if at all possible. Most med students would be happy to make a free $100. I can't see what she did as anything other than greed and stubbornness.

That said, I have no tolerance for people blackmailing other people with defamation of character in this industry. Glad the police got involved and put an end to it.
At several thousand dollars I can only assume it is a 3 or 4 day weekend thing. Keep in mind that the $1,500 was a deposit to commit/lock the time. She provided that commitment/lock.

To be blunt, there are a lot of lonely men out there who think there is nothing wrong with endless txts and emails and calls and you can put them on ignore. Having put a deposit on a multi day session you really do need to be able to stay in contact.

If you book a hotel room and are either a no show or cancel at the last minute you get charged for the first night.

" Most med students would be happy to make a free $100. " well perhaps. But not when they are pulling in over $10,000 a month and some idiot just cost them a huge part of that. It is a different situation when you book multi-day travel sessions.

Going from working the local $300 / hr side of the business to the $5,000 + per session range is a completely different world.
 

train

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This part is believable. On dating sides I routinely google image search people's profile pictures and frequently that leads to more information, often a fb page where I can view their "real" pictures and see that they are actually quite fat lol.

People tend to have a favorite picture they reuse.

An escort should be vigilant about that, not use the same pics, and lock down their fb privacy settings, but not everyone is aware that your can search facebook by photo.
Been a long time since I've seen an "escort picture" look anything like a facebook picture, in fact I usually complain that they don't look like the real person at all because of make-up hair, the Santillo curse etc. I will bow to your superior nerdiness on this subject. Does this mean you are in your 50's and live with mom too? :D
 

train

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To train;

I get the feeling your trying to say I'm that kate? I've said it twice I'm not. !
Not at all. I don't think you are "Kate". In fact I thought I was pretty clear in expressing my opinion that I don't think the "Kate" in the story actually exists.
 

yeahyeahyeah

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Who cares? The entire story seems made up, and if not, who has sympathy for the girl or the guy in this scenario? Another bullshit thing to distract you from your life. Time to shovel snow and scream at the neighbour's dogs. :)
 

Katewinters

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I get the deposit thing, it's 2 days of her time, in the video she says gave him her name ect to book her ticket. That's maybe how he tracked her down.

I do think she should have sent back half. A deposits a deposit. But it's different when dealing this industry in alot of ways. People on both ends have a lot too lose.

I just strongly believe no one should make threats in any way to anybody, what if the girl was trying to get more money from him or else shed tell people what he was doing?

I do think the toronto sun sensationalized this. But maybe they didn't. None of us will ever know for sure.

Regardless if it is ture my heart goes out to her!

(But like myself and sensual kate said. We aren't the Kate's! And they probably changed her name or something! I don't want people to think I'd run off and tell a newspaper if our date got cancled! Haha)
 

sakurame

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Yeah, this guy was so clever he was 58 and still living in his mother's basement.

That's assuming she told someone she had never met that she was really a medical student. You really think that happened? Not me.

Have you figured out why she went to the papers after this supposed harrassment had ended ? Was it to further protect her anonymity ? :D This has Snopes written all over it.
True or perhaps a publicity stunt ;). Not that many in Toronto with this
sexy accent and price point being the same.
Newspaper especially the sun love these types of stories true or not.
 

Katewinters

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True or perhaps a publicity stunt ;). Not that many in Toronto with this
sexy accent and price point being the same.
Newspaper especially the sun love these types of stories true or not.
Trust me if it was me, id be yelling from the rafters about it and would have sent back some money ASAP!
 

rhuarc29

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At several thousand dollars I can only assume it is a 3 or 4 day weekend thing. Keep in mind that the $1,500 was a deposit to commit/lock the time. She provided that commitment/lock.
What? How do you know that? I'm still thinking the deposit was for travel costs incurred (which ended up not being incurred), not as insurance of her commitment to the arrangement. Even if it was for that, it's a ridiculous amount. $1,500 to ensure she doesn't make other plans for a weekend? Crazy!

You're right, it's a completely different world. Anyone who would require that much money to lock up a weekend's worth of her time, then not give the majority of it back when that's no longer required is certainly living in a different world than me.
 

malek

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Can anybody try to help me reach her? I would love to have a date with her.
 

mrsCALoki

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What? How do you know that? I'm still thinking the deposit was for travel costs incurred (which ended up not being incurred), not as insurance of her commitment to the arrangement. Even if it was for that, it's a ridiculous amount. $1,500 to ensure she doesn't make other plans for a weekend? Crazy!

You're right, it's a completely different world. Anyone who would require that much money to lock up a weekend's worth of her time, then not give the majority of it back when that's no longer required is certainly living in a different world than me.
Hun,

No working girl in her right mind would EVER accept a deposit for her travel costs. That is 100% paid for by the client. One of the biggest issues with travel booking is who takes the risk on the tickets.

If the guy books and pays for the tickets he has to know our real name, contact info, and passport info (if it is international travel). That means we are trusting a client with a huge amount of personal information.

If the SP books and pays for her own travel than the guy is trusting her with a significant amount of $.

Other issues is the difference in cost between a fully refundable ticket and a much more restrictive but less expensive ticket. An SP must feel comfortable with the client to risk being stuck somewhere for a week (for example) in a foreign country or strange city with a guy that turns out to be repugnant.

How much do you think an attractive young woman gets paid for each 24 hrs during a travel date? $2,500 + all expenses is a bargain.

The first time I got on a plane to meet a man for a "Long Weekend" I insisted on Open Business class tickets and my own pre-paid room at the hotel and 100% of the money upfront.

I would be surprised that any SP would fly off to meet a new customer without 100% payment up front. This type of arrangement is not that rare, but it is not like grabbing a taxi for a quick ride.

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