Medical student escort says client threatens to out her.

[train]

While I'm not in the least bit sympathetic to the John for the way he handled it I think she has some fault here too. The john cancelled 2 weeks before she was supposed to go to Calgary, there is no mention of airline tickets being purchased already or any other direct costs being incurred by her. Since the planned date is in March there is plenty of time for her to accpt other appointments. She is not out of pocket in the slightest and plenty of notice was given. Yet with all that she refused to give him a refund? How client friendly of her.

As I said he has a right to be upset to some extent but he did go way too far with the threats. He had no leverage to try and get some of his money back and went too far.

Having said that , the more I think about this story the less I believe it. Something just doesn't ring true. If this guy was a new client how exactly did he get her real life background. I'm not buying the Facebook photo. Even if she did send him a face photo what are the odds of matching that with some legitimate photo on Facebook? Hard to believe he was able to do that. What are the odds 1 in a million?

Secondly why would this Kate person tell the story to the Sun ? Supposedly the problem had been solved by the Calgary police. What does she hope to gain by having in the newspaper. If she is that stupid let's hope she never gets to make life and death decisions as a doctor. There is obviously a lot to this story that is missing including independent confirmation by anyone other than Kate.

Would you give an escort that you had never met $3,000 before she even leaves her house to come to see you, unless that was the cost of a non-refundable airline ticket? Sorry, that would send up alarm bells for me.

 

[Aardvark154]

However, in this day and age, it is SO EASY to find-out people's personal information from the slightest letting down of one's guard.

Some bad guys are quite clever, but think how many female Medical Students there are in Canada (there are approximately 6,768 medical students in total), let alone Canadians in American Medical Schools, that is a Hell of a lot of looking/stalking.

I don't believe this was a five minute project.

 

[Katewinters]

I really do think they sensationalized this, story to make it something that people are talking about( like we all are!)

There aren't many details, but I think what " kate " is getting at is legalization of working girls?

But that's mixed in with a bunch of bullshit and trying to make people feel bad for this girl ( which I do)

 

[Katewinters]

Also some girls do get asked to travel to clients? I've done it once but I have reviews ect so I guess that made him feel safer that I wasn't BS.

I did ask for a deposit and the client did book my ticket? Because if I went all that way and he didn't have the money I would be kinda stranded?

Who knows

 

[NHFL]

So she's already specializing in proctology. Cool.

Hummmm, she told me it was brain surgery. Guess my head is always up my ass.

 

[rhuarc29]

Read the article. Even before medical school tuition fees and books, her living costs are about $4,000 per month. She breaks even at gross income of $5,000 per month.

Her average was $13,000 a month, and I imagine that's cash. That would more than cover her tuition and book fees, don't you think? I feel bad for those who do have to work two or three jobs while also studying and volunteering and who end up with $200,000 in debt when they graduate.

Don't get me wrong; it's despicable to threaten to out someone in this industry when it can have such an impact on their future or on their relationships. But she should have given the deposit back, minus any preparations costs she had incurred (my thoughts is $0 at that point). It's not like she was hurting for cash. She decided to be greedy and take a hard-line on her non-refundable stance, profiting from absolutely nothing. He had a good reason to be angry with her.

And himself. What kind of idiot who can barely come up with $1,500 and lives with his mom commits to a $7,000 engagement? Was he planning some foul play and chickened out? Did he actually have access to the money...but chickened out? Not sure where this was going.

 

[Katewinters]

Her average was $13,000 a month, and I imagine that's cash. That would more than cover her tuition and book fees, don't you think? I feel bad for those who do have to work two or three jobs while also studying and volunteering and who end up with $200,000 in debt when they graduate.

Don't get me wrong; it's despicable to threaten to out someone in this industry when it can have such an impact on their future or on their relationships. But she should have given the deposit back, minus any preparations costs she had incurred (my thoughts is $0 at that point). It's not like she was hurting for cash. She decided to be greedy and take a hard-line on her non-refundable stance, profiting from absolutely nothing. He had a good reason to be angry with her.

And himself. What kind of idiot who can barely come up with $1,500 and lives with his mom commits to a $7,000 engagement? Was he planning some foul play and chickened out? Did he actually have access to the money...but chickened out? Not sure where this was going.

Agreed, both at fault to a certain degree

 

[train]

Some bad guys are quite clever, but think how many female Medical Students there are in Canada (there are approximately 6,768 medical students in total), let alone Canadians in American Medical Schools, that is a Hell of a lot of looking/stalking.

I don't believe this was a five minute project.

Yeah, this guy was so clever he was 58 and still living in his mother's basement.

That's assuming she told someone she had never met that she was really a medical student. You really think that happened? Not me.

Have you figured out why she went to the papers after this supposed harrassment had ended ? Was it to further protect her anonymity ? This has Snopes written all over it.

 

[Katewinters]

That being said the paper probably checked out the story ect?

Who knows but after reading this I wonder if SPs will change there screening!

 

[train]

That being said the paper probably checked out the story ect?

Who knows but after reading this I wonder if SPs will change there screening!

There is no mention that they even phoned the Calgary cops. Nope no indication of any verification whatsoever.

 

[Katewinters]

Then it could be BS - 50/50 really. Pretty wild if she did pull it out of the arse!

Who knows. I'm just glad it didn't happen to me. And hope if this did happen she's smarter and safer.
And that All girls are lots safer.

 

[train]

Then it could be BS - 50/50 really. Pretty wild if she did pull it out of the arse!

Who knows. I'm just glad it didn't happen to me. And hope if this did happen she's smarter and safer.
And that All girls are lots safer.

Maybe there is no Kate and the reporter pulled it out of his arse based loosely on a story told to him by his fav sp? Wouldn't be the first time that's happened. If it can happen to the NY Times it can certainly happen to the Toronto Sun.

It would be a lot more believeable if Kate came here while it was happening and not being specific about the medical career rather than "outing" herself again in public after it was over.

Medical school must be easier than I thought if you can make $13,000 to $25,000/month at $400 an hour plus manage all your bookings, advertising etc and still keep up with your studies.

 

[GPIDEAL]

Living expenses as a SP of 4k per month are actually not all that unheard of. That was around what I spent monthly in 2003-2004. Rent at home, rent at incall, transportation, ads, work and personal clothing, maintenance (hair, nails, etc.), "supplies", food, utilities, etc.

I didn't doubt her living expenses.

 

[Aardvark154]

Train, I believe we are headed in the same general direction.

There are several options: The story is made up in part, the man had plenty of time on his hands to somehow research the probably over 1500 female medical students in Canada to find her facebook page, or she told him much more than the article states.

If he actually made blackmail threats I'm really surprised even if the victim said she didn't want to testify, that police just went to his house and said "knock it off" - for an indictable offense? One would think that this is the sort of case where charges would be brought and then filed (i.e. deferred) to be dismissed by the Crown if there were no further incidents after a certain period of time (say five years).

 

[GPIDEAL]

Her average was $13,000 a month, and I imagine that's cash. That would more than cover her tuition and book fees, don't you think? I feel bad for those who do have to work two or three jobs while also studying and volunteering and who end up with $200,000 in debt when they graduate.

Don't get me wrong; it's despicable to threaten to out someone in this industry when it can have such an impact on their future or on their relationships. But she should have given the deposit back, minus any preparations costs she had incurred (my thoughts is $0 at that point). It's not like she was hurting for cash. She decided to be greedy and take a hard-line on her non-refundable stance, profiting from absolutely nothing. He had a good reason to be angry with her.

And himself. What kind of idiot who can barely come up with $1,500 and lives with his mom commits to a $7,000 engagement? Was he planning some foul play and chickened out? Did he actually have access to the money...but chickened out? Not sure where this was going.

Ya, I didn't take note of her average monthly income as stated (not that I was feeling sorry for her).

As for the guy who changed his mind, sorry but if she's planning on travelling to Calgary, and doesn't take other appointments, as long as she states in her ad that the deposit is non-refundable under certain conditions, then he's in the wrong.

She wasn't necessarily being greedy. Those are her business terms. There are opportunity costs associated with cancellations. It's not like he's a regular that she can make it up some other time.

 

[Katewinters]

To train;

I get the feeling your trying to say I'm that kate? I've said it twice I'm not. We just share the same name!

I've even sad she may be full of bs.

I watched the video and I get the feeling she's doing because she wants to let other ladies know it's okay to call the police? And he didn't have to dig hard if she gave him her information to book her flight?

Maybe she's being kind of a bitch maybe she's not.

I think there's a bigger issue at hand is it's not okay to be mean to people, like he was to her?

I think it's in poor taste for the sun to post what she charges though?

But yet again I just want to point out, I'm not the "kate" in the artical!

 

[malek]

I would happily pay $800 for a two hours date with Kate. That is actually one of my fantasies. Too bad that incidents like these makes it impossible or very difficult for those of us who are decent clients to hook up with these smart women. Next time, the girl would not reveal her medical expertise.

 

[oil&gas]

Also some girls do get asked to travel to clients? I've done it once but I have reviews ect so I guess that made him feel safer that I wasn't BS.

Do you know anyone who would accept a $7,000 appointment that requires
her to travel to Alberta to meet a first time client she has never seen before under the condition both travel expense and a deposit has been paid in advance.

Not being familiar with the escort business there could be something I am
missing. To me it seems bizarre for an escort to accept such an appointment
unless it is arranged by an high-end agency that screens its clients. But this
doesn't seem to be the case here.

I did ask for a deposit and the client did book my ticket? Because if I went all that way and he didn't have the money I would be kinda stranded?

Who knows

 

[Katewinters]

So would you accept a $7,000 appointment that requires you to travel to
Alberta to meet a first time client you've never seen before under the condition
your ticket is booked in advance and a deposit has been paid?

Not being familiar with the escort business there could be something I am
missing. To me it seems bizarre for an escort to accept such an appointment
unless it is arranged by an high-end agency that screens its clients. But this
doesn't seem to be the case here.

No I only traveled with him as I'd seen him a few times when he was in toronto so I didn't think too much of it.

Some girls want to do it alone? Maybe she needed the money? Prehaps this girl got over confident and threw caustion to the wind. or is bullshit? Really who knows.

My point is; if it is ture. She shouldn't have treated like that. If its not shame on her for lying.

 

[mrsCALoki]

Also some girls do get asked to travel to clients? I've done it once but I have reviews ect so I guess that made him feel safer that I wasn't BS.

I did ask for a deposit and the client did book my ticket? Because if I went all that way and he didn't have the money I would be kinda stranded?

Who knows

My first client decided he wanted to spend 3 day weekends with me, and he always paid for a full flex air ticket in my name, and the fee in advance. It sounds foolish to accept anything less.