Apparently slavery still exists in parts of Africa, and was Just recently banned in Saudi Arabia.
Black Slavery in America
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Actually it was neither, but hey. You might want to look up indentured servants in New England during the early 1600's. I'm not aware of many sugar or cotton plantation in Pennsylvania or Massachusetts.
This topic is NOT about
1) who treated who worse
2) which countries committed slavery
3) slagging a super power
From what I can see I think the OP was just talking about how it was an ugly part of history and I added to it that slavery in the US is a relatively recent event.
You could argue that slavery is still being committed by North America in the form of "banaa republics" where we pretty much turned a blind eye on attrocities in trade for a cheap labour force etc etc etc. It might not be slavery but it's pretty damn close.
1) who treated who worse
2) which countries committed slavery
3) slagging a super power
From what I can see I think the OP was just talking about how it was an ugly part of history and I added to it that slavery in the US is a relatively recent event.
You could argue that slavery is still being committed by North America in the form of "banaa republics" where we pretty much turned a blind eye on attrocities in trade for a cheap labour force etc etc etc. It might not be slavery but it's pretty damn close.
There are some very old one time share croppers south of the Mason-Dixie Line who might have a different opinion than you.
There are racist policies, whether they were a conspiracy per se is not the point as the intent is unknown the effects are teh same.
Slavery on the ground in the British empire did not end in the 1830's. Irish tenant farmers under the thumbs of their brutal thieving Orangemen landlords were treated worse than slaves.
It was
seemingly is that the American Colonization Society and Marcus Garvey were correct.
He'd like it to be, so there.It was
seemingly is that the American Colonization Society and Marcus Garvey were correct.
The 1800's sweatshops in the U.S. North weren't that much better than the Southern plantations.
Presumably you then feel that we should all gang up on Brazil since after all it took them almost another twenty-three years beyond that.
Are you comparing the US of the mid 19th century to that of Brazil? According to MSOG, those were the golden years on the US.
The economic conditions of states change through the years and hence the other states that they can be compared to.
For instance would you believe me that Argentina had the world's third largest gold reserves a century ago with a rock solid currency.
Yeah you can find all sort of examples.
I think this is where Americanson got his knickers in a knot for no real reason. By mentioning the US because it was the topic by no means suggests that there aren't other places or people doing or did worse stuff.
and so? It's news to me, but then considering how off the mark you were on the sugar/cotton claim, I'm a lttle skeptical of your claim. There were many blacks servants and farmhands brought over and they were the first slave. Over half and as many two thirds of the new arrivals in the colonies were indentures servants. A peak of three quarters of the population were indentured at one point. Are you saying most of them were Irish? The African silution was finally reached when it was found that even the local natives couldn't fill the required labour needs.
From; Colonists in Bondage: White Servitude and Convict Labor in America, 1607-1776
