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simon482

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What he said. And agree that muscle gain will cause weight gain, or a plateau in weight even if losing fat.

Sounds like you are doing a lot of good stuff. Losing a ton of fat will take a long time. It took a long time to gain it. Increase your expenditure as you get fitter, and the fat loss will increase. Key is to do stuff you can keep up. The biggest problem is people do some crazy shit and lose weight, but that isn't sustainable because they have never figured out how to eat and live healthy.

In your job it must be really hard. Good job that you have made the progress you have.
i seen all these fucking diet pills and crazy shit like that and i got no interest in any of that. i want a permanent solution not just a quick fix. lack of places to pull 75' of truck in makes it harder to eat right. you either got fast food or truck stop food. can't really swing into your local organic food store lol.
 

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Muscle is heavier than fat. Very typical to gain a bit on the way to losing more. stick with it and add some Cardio.
lol that reminds me of the easy and stupid question they ask on some job application tests to weed out the stupid idiots like "What weighs heavier 5 lbs of water or 5 lbs of oil?"

I think you meant to say muscle is denser hence heavier than fat when given the same amount of both in VOLUME.
 

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Ok, you have to stay off those scales.........period!! If you insist on weighing yourself, you should be using the same scale, at the same time of day, once a week.

Sounds like you are on the right track with regards to increasing your reps and weight. Resistance bands are exactly that......resistance training. They are to use in place of weights basically. Weight training will get your heart rate up, no doubt, but if you feel like you are out of breath (like if you'd just done a fast run) then you are doing it wrong. Focus on form instead of speed when you use these and make sure the resistance is the right level for you at the time.
i got the highest tension band on now and do one arm at a time so i can have both on one arm for the extra tension. i do get out of breath with the weight training but that could just be my pack a day habit lol. everyone tells me to stay off those scales and i need to listen but what usually happens is i get mad about the number i see then go out to the truck and add more to the work out.

right now i got a good one. i cross my legs like if you are going to sit on the floor and i sit on my bed then lay flat on my back and fold the second bed down and use it for chin up's. do about 30 of those a night. along with all the band stuff i am doing. then while i am laying here typing i just flex my stomach for hours at a time.
 

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You need to change your routine. I'm not sure what facilities are available to you but your body has become accustomed to your work out. If you were at a gym it would give you the opportunity to change things up every few weeks, so my first advice would be to get a gym membership. From your posts I'm assuming that's out of the question. There are a few home routines you can do but I'm not sure what shape you're in. How many pushups can you do? Situps? There are a few exercise circuits I have in mind that may be of benefit to you.

Do you have access to a treadmill? If not, are you willing to run in what is now cold weather? Running/jogging would be an excellent activity to add to your workout. It can be free, you can set goals for yourself and you can change it up quite a bit (HIIT is great when you're at the right physical condition)

In terms of your weight gain, I wouldn't worry about it if its only a few pounds. Also, judging by the 20lbs dumb bells you're using there is no way you've put on any muscle.

If you can't change your exercise routine than your diet needs to be spot on. How many calories are you eating? what do your meals consist of?

Its 12am and I'm extremely sleepy. Sorry if I'm not clear.
 

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You need to change your routine. I'm not sure what facilities are available to you but your body has become accustomed to your work out. If you were at a gym it would give you the opportunity to change things up every few weeks, so my first advice would be to get a gym membership. From your posts I'm assuming that's out of the question. There are a few home routines you can do but I'm not sure what shape you're in. How many pushups can you do? Situps? There are a few exercise circuits I have in mind that may be of benefit to you.

Do you have access to a treadmill? If not, are you willing to run in what is now cold weather? Running/jogging would be an excellent activity to add to your workout. It can be free, you can set goals for yourself and you can change it up quite a bit (HIIT is great when you're at the right physical condition)

In terms of your weight gain, I wouldn't worry about it if its only a few pounds. Also, judging by the 20lbs dumb bells you're using there is no way you've put on any muscle.

If you can't change your exercise routine than your diet needs to be spot on. How many calories are you eating? what do your meals consist of?

Its 12am and I'm extremely sleepy. Sorry if I'm not clear.
i got the calorie counter and keep it under 2100 a day. the amount of reps i do with the weights i know i have put muscle on i can actually see it
 

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i seen all these fucking diet pills and crazy shit like that and i got no interest in any of that. i want a permanent solution not just a quick fix. lack of places to pull 75' of truck in makes it harder to eat right. you either got fast food or truck stop food. can't really swing into your local organic food store lol.
You've got a good attitude, the quick fixes always backfire in the end.

Just keep in mind that to lose a pound of fat, you need to burn between 3 and 4000 calories more than you take in. So basically to get rid of 50, it's gonna take a while.

Learn a bunch of different types of exercise and find a few you enjoy, or find a way of making it enjoyable. Boredom will kill motivation to exercise. I hate gyms tho I've used them. Waking running, resistance bands etc are all easy good ways to burn some calories. Just remeber that to lose you need to burn more than you take in. To lose a pound a week, you need to burn about 500 more than you take in each day!
 

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You've got a good attitude, the quick fixes always backfire in the end.

Just keep in mind that to lose a pound of fat, you need to burn between 3 and 4000 calories more than you take in. So basically to get rid of 50, it's gonna take a while.

Learn a bunch of different types of exercise and find a few you enjoy, or find a way of making it enjoyable. Boredom will kill motivation to exercise. I hate gyms tho I've used them. Waking running, resistance bands etc are all easy good ways to burn some calories. Just remeber that to lose you need to burn more than you take in. To lose a pound a week, you need to burn about 500 more than you take in each day!
never really thought of it like that. i will keep it in mind. thanks.
 

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It is good to keep a sort of diary of everything you eat and how many calories it is, to try and get a realistic idea of what you are actually taking in. Just tally up at the end of the day, even if it was a "bad" day where you ate junk. Write down every single thing you eat every day, look up / estimate how many calories it is, and total it. Try and figure out how much you burn every day just doing your ordinary life stuff. Add on any exercise you did, and see whether you totaled out a gain or a loss. If your calc says you are losing, but you are actually gaining, figure out where you got it wrong, etc.

Do this whether you are on a diet or not. After awhile you will just know how many calories are in most things, and get really good at guessing the calories in things you can't look up. After a year or so of this you won't need to keep the diary anymore--you will just start knowing where you stand.

I tally up my calories every day. I am usually NOT on a diet, but I do it anyway. I don't care if I'm way over some days, I just like to keep track. About once a year or so I have to throw myself onto a diet to get back to where I want to be, and it's a really good skill to have to figure out whether you're losing your 500/day as planned or whatever your goal is.
 

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It is good to keep a sort of diary of everything you eat and how many calories it is, to try and get a realistic idea of what you are actually taking in. Just tally up at the end of the day, even if it was a "bad" day where you ate junk. Write down every single thing you eat every day, look up / estimate how many calories it is, and total it. Try and figure out how much you burn every day just doing your ordinary life stuff. Add on any exercise you did, and see whether you totaled out a gain or a loss. If your calc says you are losing, but you are actually gaining, figure out where you got it wrong, etc.

Do this whether you are on a diet or not. After awhile you will just know how many calories are in most things, and get really good at guessing the calories in things you can't look up. After a year or so of this you won't need to keep the diary anymore--you will just start knowing where you stand.

I tally up my calories every day. I am usually NOT on a diet, but I do it anyway. I don't care if I'm way over some days, I just like to keep track. About once a year or so I have to throw myself onto a diet to get back to where I want to be, and it's a really good skill to have to figure out whether you're losing your 500/day as planned or whatever your goal is.
my fitness pal it's a great free app and has a website that goes with it. you put in the weight you are and what you want to be and how long you want it to take it to get you there.
 

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Simon, when you're in the car that much, how much coffee do you drink and what do you put in your coffee? I use to be a triple-double guy and went totally to black coffee and I had a very noticeable drop in weight.
 

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Simon, when you're in the car that much, how much coffee do you drink and what do you put in your coffee? I use to be a triple-double guy and went totally to black coffee and I had a very noticeable drop in weight.
I'm allergic to coffee.
 

Mr Bret

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There are a couple of exercise tools you could carry that take up almost no space.
Resistance bands. You can use these for a variety of exercises in a very small space.
Skipping rope. You could do some on the spot skipping anywhere you stop along the way.
 

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i looked that up and it's not true. a pound is a pound. however a pound of muscle takes less room than a pound of fat. i have noticed my clothes fitting better.

i have been doing more cardio. step up on the step of my truck and i always park in the far back corner of the truck stops to take the extra steps.


i have noticed a lot more muscle definition.
a pound is a pound but a pound of fat has more volume than a pound of muscle basic science son

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volume
 

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Hey Simon, good luck with your program...I'm absolutely not a fan of quick fix nonsense either. The link below is to a 3 day diet that St. Mikes hospital uses when they need a patient to lose some poundage quickly, often as a requirement for a pending procedure. I tried it twice over the years and it for sure will let you drop 10 lbs. each time. Why it works I have no idea nor am I qualified to defend it's efficacy....but it sure works, at least for me. BTW it does suck to suffer through the three days but you aren't starving obviously. As an addition to what you are doing it may give you the boost you are looking for.

http://beautiful-in-life.blogspot.ca/2008/12/st-michaels-hospital-diet.html
I'm not sure how that diet can work. Its not that restricted in caloroes. Heck, a number of days I eat similarly, and I'm not dropping weight. Though I'm only about 5-10 max over my ideal weight so maybe that is the difference.
 

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Hey Simon. Here is some common sense for you. The largest muscles in your body are your leg muscles. Burn the legs and you burn the fat. Since you are in the cab of a truck for long periods might I suggest you get two 40 lb dumbells and do leg squats with them when you are at the truck stops. Start with 3 reps of X 6 do this for one week. Then increase to 3X10 for a week. Then 3X15 for a week. Now, you ready for this? Buy another set of 50lb dumbells and repeat the process. Weights are cheap to buy and you can use them for shoulder and arm exercise. cheers Gb
 

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Hey Simon, good luck with your program...I'm absolutely not a fan of quick fix nonsense either. The link below is to a 3 day diet that St. Mikes hospital uses when they need a patient to lose some poundage quickly, often as a requirement for a pending procedure. I tried it twice over the years and it for sure will let you drop 10 lbs. each time. Why it works I have no idea nor am I qualified to defend it's efficacy....but it sure works, at least for me. BTW it does suck to suffer through the three days but you aren't starving obviously. As an addition to what you are doing it may give you the boost you are looking for.

http://beautiful-in-life.blogspot.ca/2008/12/st-michaels-hospital-diet.html

This thread is hilarious...first off, this diet is basically a starvation diet, nothing that will change your habits long term. In order to do that, you need to be very restrictive with the types of food you eat and follow a strict macro-nutrient ratio. Your calories are also too high at 2100, especially considering your workout is poor as well. Is it better than nothing, yes, but after a couple weeks there will be no further results. Without writing an actual plan, focus on compound exercises, those movements that are multi-joint, that replicate a demand on your central nervous system. Squats, lunges, deadlifts, pull-ups, push presses, etc. Stay away from steady rate cardio period. Instead of running, do a 20 minute cycle of sprints. Find a field and run it. 10 yards sprint, walk back. 20 yards sprint, walk...all the way until you've sprinted the entire field, adding 10 yards each time.

If you're serious, you can't wing it..period. No bread, no dairy, high protein, good fats and less than 100 grams of HEALTHY carbs a day is a rudimentary way of going about it. Eating healthy is much different than eating to lose weight and change your body's natural cravings. Start to read labels, write down what you eat with your calorie totals. Aim for no more than 1700 a day as an average. Best of luck.
 

simon482

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Jesus lol. I'm not trying to be mr.america I'm just trying to not get winded putting on my socks.
 
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