Another Cyclist Murdered
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"Tom Samson, a popular Grade 2 Swansea Junior and Senior Public School teacher for eight years, was cycling across a marked Lansdowne Ave. crosswalk around 6:30 p.m. Friday when a reddish-coloured mini-van hit him"
From <http://www.torontosun.com/2012/11/25/charges-laid-over-west-end-cyclist-death>
So: cycling across a pedestrian crosswalk - stupid fatal mistake. No driver can be expected to account for someone moving at cycling speed in a crosswalk, marked or not. The charges are for the hit and run, which is, of course, entirely appropriate.
From <http://www.torontosun.com/2012/11/25/charges-laid-over-west-end-cyclist-death>
So: cycling across a pedestrian crosswalk - stupid fatal mistake. No driver can be expected to account for someone moving at cycling speed in a crosswalk, marked or not. The charges are for the hit and run, which is, of course, entirely appropriate.
too much mis-information. various reports say the van was westbound. some say eastbound. 6:30 a.m./p.m. i'm no longer sure he was being salmon even. but one thing is clear, it's not a stand-alone crosswalk, it was an intersection and the cyclist was running the red. people make mistakes. same as that poor woman that got dragged under the truck in the summer. she made a mistake. with terrible consequences. i'm not for licensing cyclists at all but most of the ones i see have no idea how to ride in traffic.
From the way the report described it , the only reason he was hit by the second vehicle was because the first collision threw him into the way of the second vehicle, I doubt stopping after the initial collision would have changed that, and if the first vehicle had stayed and called 911, there is no way of knowing if that driver would have been able call any faster.
Doesn't matter though , the driver still left the scene of the crime and should be charged accordingly, based on the reports though the cause of the accident is clearly the cyclist.
Other than TERB, where is it reported that the cyciist ran a RED LIGHT? I don't see it in the CBC link nor in various other media reports.
Looks like more details are emerging. I heard the same on 680 NEWS this morning. Maybe it was the second hit that proved fatal. Have the authorities concluded that the entire blame falls on the cyclist?
I like how the press reported the 22 year old who ran was unshaven in court but the picture of the dead cyclist was also unshaven... what was the point of saying the jerk who hit him was unshaven, unless it mean he might well have been drunk at the time of the crash
(My gut feeling says he was or on another drug?)
It does seem like the cyclist missed seeing the red light cause he was thrown to the other side of the street and was run over, so either both of them ran a red light or just the cyclist--seems more likely just one ran the red light then both of the other drivers. `
Doesn't matter, jerk should had stop like the other driver did..why did he run and hide ?
(My gut feeling says he was or on another drug?)
It does seem like the cyclist missed seeing the red light cause he was thrown to the other side of the street and was run over, so either both of them ran a red light or just the cyclist--seems more likely just one ran the red light then both of the other drivers. `
Doesn't matter, jerk should had stop like the other driver did..why did he run and hide ?
If you actually watch the Video on the CBC link, the driver of the second vehicle states the light was green, which is the only information we have at this point, if that is shown to be false later, that will of course change things, but for now the information is the cyclist crossed against the red light.
Mervyn, you are asking rockslinger, the posting provocateur, to understand that if the light is green in one direction, then by deduction it red in the other direction.
http://www.cp24.com/news/man-turns-himself-in-after-hit-and-run-cyclist-death-1.1052755
A man has turned himself in to police, telling officers he was involved in a fatal hit-and-run accident that saw a 35-year-old cyclist killed early Friday morning.
According to police, two traffic services detectives have been dispatched to speak to the man at 11 Division, where he turned himself in Saturday.
The victim in the incident, elementary school teacher Tomer Samson, was killed after being struck by two vehicles while crossing Davenport Road along Lansdowne Avenue around 6:45 a.m.
A man has turned himself in to police, telling officers he was involved in a fatal hit-and-run accident that saw a 35-year-old cyclist killed early Friday morning.
According to police, two traffic services detectives have been dispatched to speak to the man at 11 Division, where he turned himself in Saturday.
The victim in the incident, elementary school teacher Tomer Samson, was killed after being struck by two vehicles while crossing Davenport Road along Lansdowne Avenue around 6:45 a.m.
Well since he was a school teacher, the law will come down hard on the jerk who ran away but if it was just some poor bum biking to the soup kitchen, might not even be in the news, IMO
All peoples lives are not equal in the eyes of the courts. Even if proven he ran a red light, the guy should not had ran off and therefor since the victim was an outstanding citizen, this 22 year old jerk is in deep shit.
All peoples lives are not equal in the eyes of the courts. Even if proven he ran a red light, the guy should not had ran off and therefor since the victim was an outstanding citizen, this 22 year old jerk is in deep shit.
A 22-year-old man charged in a hit-and-run that left a cyclist dead early Friday monring has been remanded into custody.
Miguel Oliveira appeared in court at Old City Hall Sunday morning after turning himself in to police at 11 Division Saturday evening.
Oliveira is charged with failure to remain at the scene of an accident causing death in connection with a hit-and-run early Friday.
Miguel Oliveira appeared in court at Old City Hall Sunday morning after turning himself in to police at 11 Division Saturday evening.
Oliveira is charged with failure to remain at the scene of an accident causing death in connection with a hit-and-run early Friday.
Maybe Rockslinger is a drama queen and wants attention by writing ridiculous statements?
D.
Are we certain the cyclist was crossing and not riding on the shoulder and got hit from behind ?
I wished someone had killed my grade 2 teacher! .... Miss Durnford
I call her Miss DurnFART and was sent to the Office!I did click on that infamous link and all l I saw was a printed article with comments from several people and no mention of a video.
On the other hand, I did see the interview of the second driver and his son on another TV channel (not CBC) and they did not mention anything about whether the light was red or green.
On the other hand, I did see the interview of the second driver and his son on another TV channel (not CBC) and they did not mention anything about whether the light was red or green.
Link in post #5 has a video clip that shows up at the top of the article (took a few seconds to show up). @ 2:49 you have the driver of the second car indicating they had the green and the cyclist crossed on the red.
