Another Cyclist Murdered

buttercup

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In any case it's sad when someone is killed in that way, and more so because a very capable grade 2 teacher was lost.
Why do you mention that he was "very capable"?

How is that relevant to the situation? You are actually saying that his death is more regrettable because he was a very capable teacher. So, if he'd been a tramp, that would make his death less regrettable?

Anyway, how do you know how capable he was, as a teacher? You can deduce that his capability as a cyclist must have been somewhat below par, but that is all.
 

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Why do you mention that he was "very capable"?

How is that relevant to the situation? You are actually saying that his death is more regrettable because he was a very capable teacher. So, if he'd been a tramp, that would make his death less regrettable?

Anyway, how do you know how capable he was, as a teacher? You can deduce that his capability as a cyclist must have been somewhat below par, but that is all.
My first instinct here was to dump a few insults on you, but I'll treat you with some respect.

As to your second point, I don't know the person who was killed. However, I recall the television report that I saw interviewed someone from his school, who spoke well of him and his teaching ability. I assumed that person was reasonably honest, so it was fair to infer that the late bicyclist was a good teacher.

As to your first point, I may have worded my statement poorly. I apologize if it caused you anger or anguish. What I meant was that it was sad that he died in this way. Further, I felt that it was likely, since he was a capable teacher, that the students in his class would suffer pain from his loss, and I was sad about that.

I didn't realize that my statement would cause someone to jump all over it.
 

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i wouldn't call it murder. not like the guy jumped in his car and went looking for someone to hit. seems to me the guy on the bike was at fault for running the red and not wearing the proper reflective gear and the guy in the car is guilty of not paying attention while he was driving. then got really fucking scared and drove off like a real piece of shit would do. i don't see it as murder but a series of seriously unfortunate events.
 

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Murder probably not. But negligent homicide is possible if timelier care could have saved the life of the cyclist.

Hit and run drivers are the scum of the earth. They leave a seriously injured person lying on the road because of what? Insurance rates?
 

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Apparently, Mr. Samson was still alive after the initial hit. If the guilty driver had called 911 immediately, Mr. Samson might/could/would still be alive to-day. Where is that damn driver?
 

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Murder probably not. But negligent homicide is possible if timelier care could have saved the life of the cyclist.

Hit and run drivers are the scum of the earth. They leave a seriously injured person lying on the road because of what? Insurance rates?
seen a hit and run first hand while i was a cab driver in georgetown. if it wasn't for me and what i told them they wouldn't have caught the guy and me showing up at court put him in jail. i have no issue with what i did and the girl who got hit was walking at night in full dark clothes on a dark street, she lived and after a few months was able to walk again.
 

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Apparently, Mr. Samson was still alive after the initial hit. If the guilty driver had called 911 immediately, Mr. Samson might/could/would still be alive to-day. Where is that damn driver?
unless someone saw it happen good odds he will never be caught.
 

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Murder probably not. But negligent homicide is possible if timelier care could have saved the life of the cyclist.

Hit and run drivers are the scum of the earth. They leave a seriously injured person lying on the road because of what? Insurance rates?
No cause if you had a few drinks, then no mater what, the death becomes partly your fault. You end up in jail and sued up the ass till your broke.

Well you asked why they run, lol
 

larry

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Apparently, Mr. Samson was still alive after the initial hit. If the guilty driver had called 911 immediately, Mr. Samson might/could/would still be alive to-day. Where is that damn driver?
how come you write in such an inflammatory way? just for fun? from what we've heard, the driver was guilty of nothing until he/she left the scene.
 

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Hit and run seem to be pretty common in Toronto it seem like a culture thing. People are getting more meaner and meaner.
 

simon482

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how come you write in such an inflammatory way? just for fun? from what we've heard, the driver was guilty of nothing until he/she left the scene.
he hates cars and people that drive them.
 

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Apparently, Mr. Samson was still alive after the initial hit. If the guilty driver had called 911 immediately, Mr. Samson might/could/would still be alive to-day. Where is that damn driver?
how come you write in such an inflammatory way? just for fun? from what we've heard, the driver was guilty of nothing until he/she left the scene.
larry, there is a clue in his post count.
 

simon482

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Because Rockslinger is a troll. He posts things in such a way to create reactions.

And he seldom has enough information to to make any rational comment.

In this case he says if the first driver (the murderer!) had have called 911 , then the guy might have lived.

According to the actual words of the second driver speaking to the TV cameras, who hit the cyclist a second later, the cyclist was essentially dead on the spot with massive head trauma. There was brain matter and copious amounts of blood in the news video shown.

But then again folks like Rockslinger apparently survive brain injuries so who knows....:crazy:
i like it when you show up.
 

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how come you write in such an inflammatory way? just for fun? from what we've heard, the driver was guilty of nothing until he/she left the scene.
That is wrong, if the driver was impaired, then he should not have been driving in the first place. The law used to be that you could be drunk and the accident might not be your fault but that was change long ago. Who is to say if the driver was 100% sober he might have been able to brake and stop in time or not hit the guy so hard.

Now for all we know, BOTH parties might have been drunk-impaired...how come the bicyclist did not see the red light and the suv coming at him?
 

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The driver has turned himself in (according to CP24).
 

S.C. Joe

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Hit and run seem to be pretty common in Toronto it seem like a culture thing. People are getting more meaner and meaner.
And the laws are getting tougher and tougher.

People know they are "hung" if they are drinking and hit somebody.

I'm not saying its right to flee but just explaining why some people don't stop after an accident. Instead of scaring them not to drink and drive, they just get scared to stop at the scene when they should.

The person might even not had a drivers license, its easier then ever to lose your license to drive. People don't want to go to jail, lol
 

Rockslinger

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The driver has turned himself in (according to CP24).
Finally. He or she left big chunks of the car lying around at the scene so the vehicle would have been tracked down anyway. The problem now is that if he or she was drunk (or on drugs) at the time, it is hard to prove more than 30 hours later.
 
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