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Furious mob torch Lahore's leading girls' school after teacher 'insults' the Prophet

frankcastle

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This is my problem with Canadians... You guys are just too fucking nice.

What in the exact fuck does Canada have to do with some shit that went down in Pakistan?

If something fucked up happened in Pakistan, then something fucked up happened in Pakistan! We are allowed to point it out, express outrage, and maybe even do something about it.

We don't have to look inward and point out our own flaws. We're not burning schools for fuck sake....
I'm not saying to ignore it. It's an awful thing to do.

I just happen to think that Canada is far from Utopia and the US is even further.
 

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To me, caught means someone with a set of morals finds out, not someone willing to be complicit - and yes, the same thing happens everywhere. A US public school got closed down last year because abuse was going on and many of the staff ignored it.

You seem to have difficulty with the difference between acts done because of religion and acts done by 'religious' people.
No difficulty here. I didn't say nor infer that these acts were because of religion. The lawyer did by claiming "Can you imagine a teacher being fired from a Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Russian or Greek Orthodox etc. . . sponsored school for making a copying error in a biblical quotation? " whereby he was inferring that these religions were better. Dangerous waters. I was merely pointing out with my statement and example that no religion is without reproach and more specifically the individuals involved.
 

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This is my problem with Canadians... You guys are just too fucking nice.
Point taken. You know what my problem with you Americans is? You think and do before the analytical part of your brain gets involved. Shoot first ask questions later mentality. Not you of course.
 

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I'm not saying to ignore it. It's an awful thing to do.

I just happen to think that Canada is far from Utopia and the US is even further.
Dude, I respect you and your opinion. But you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, in this particular case.

Canada is far from utopia? Canada is the closest thing to utopia on this entire planet. In the history of this planet.

I'm not even Canadian!
 

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Point taken. You know what my problem with you Americans is? You think and do before the analytical part of your brain gets involved. Shoot first ask questions later mentality. Not you of course.
America is a wealthy country without adequate wealth redistribution. Personally, I prefer that as I end up as one of the winners here.

As for the losers, not only do they not have wealth, but they also don't receive a real education, the way Canadians do.

So, essentially, people who come from privilege keep their fellow citizens deaf, dumb, and blind in order to exploit them. That's the American way.

That's why I firmly believe that Canada is the best country in the world, for the majority of its citizens. However, America is the best country for me, given my circumstances.
 

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On the OP, I'd be interested to find out if it was an actual mistake (as in wrong spelling), an interpretation different from the accepted view, or the teacher making some kind of political point.
The article doesn't make that plain. Urdu the main language of Pakistan (and mutually intelligable with Hindi) is written in a Persian Script, however, how close that script is to Arabic which the Koran (and passages from it) are in Islamic Countries written in, I do not know.
 

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The article doesn't make that plain. Urdu the main language of Pakistan (and mutually intelligable with Hindi) is written in a Persian Script, however, how close that script is to Arabic which the Koran (and passages from it) are in Islamic Countries written in, I do not know.
Urdu and Arabic are written in a mutually intelligible script, but are not mutually intelligible when spoken.
 

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I didn't say nor infer that these acts were because of religion. The lawyer did by claiming "Can you imagine a teacher being fired from a Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Russian or Greek Orthodox etc. . . sponsored school for making a copying error in a biblical quotation? " whereby he was inferring that these religions were better.
Horse manure. Of course the riot and arson were because of religion, and supposedly because of a copying error in a Koranic passage.
As posted a mob either burning down a school, or a denominational school firing a teacher because of a copying error in a biblical passage is next to impossible to imagine. Now if you want to turn that in your mind into a statement that I'm saying Islam is an inferior religion go right ahead. But I believe others will see it as a statement about how foolish the actions of the mob were.

If you would like to defend the action of the mob I await your defence.
 

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Dude, I respect you and your opinion. But you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, in this particular case.

Canada is far from utopia? Canada is the closest thing to utopia on this entire planet. In the history of this planet.

I'm not even Canadian!
Depending on who you ask and what criteria you use

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/best-country-live-list-countries-2009-un-hdi

This one ranks Canada fourth

But that's besides my point. Being the best of 182 countries is not the same as being the ideal best.

Sorry but I think my own country and it's performance is relevant when I decide to comment on other countries. I guess that's just a fundamental difference between some Canadians like me and some American like you.
 

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I do agree with one point you made Closer,

That is how good a country is depends on your ethnicity. If you are aboriginal in Canada your life is probably not going to be that good compared to other races.
 

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Horse manure. Of course the riot and arson were because of religion, and supposedly because of a copying error in a Koranic passage.
As posted a mob either burning down a school, or a denominational school firing a teacher because of a copying error in a biblical passage is next to impossible to imagine. Now if you want to turn that in your mind into a statement that I'm saying Islam is an inferior religion go right ahead. But I believe others will see it as a statement about how foolish the actions of the mob were.

If you would like to defend the action of the mob I await your defence.
I'm not defending anyone. I'm taking offence at your assertion that other religions are above this kind of shit. You say of course it about religion and then you say its about a mob acting in the name of religion. Does this mob speak for all of Islam? Could it be that a seemingly lawless place like pakistan. And yes you are saying that Islam is an inferior religion because you said the same could never happen in a school of another denomination where equally if not great horrors occur.

Go ahead and chase your tail some more sparky. Why don't you regale us some more with tales of yore. Shit that rhymes.
 

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Can you imagine a teacher being fired from a Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Russian or Greek Orthodox etc. . . sponsored school for making a copying error in a biblical quotation? Can you imagine a mob pouring through the streets of Kingston or Rochester to burn down the school?
 

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Horse manure. Of course the riot and arson were because of religion, and supposedly because of a copying error in a Koranic passage.
As posted a mob either burning down a school, or a denominational school firing a teacher because of a copying error in a biblical passage is next to impossible to imagine. Now if you want to turn that in your mind into a statement that I'm saying Islam is an inferior religion go right ahead. But I believe others will see it as a statement about how foolish the actions of the mob were.

If you would like to defend the action of the mob I await your defence.

I agree 100% with Aardvark154, in this particular case..
 

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Can you imagine a teacher being fired from a Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Russian or Greek Orthodox etc. . . sponsored school for making a copying error in a biblical quotation?
If that teacher and school were in Pakistan, then yes I can. In Canada, that wouldn't happen at an Islamic school, either. So context is important.
 

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Sorry but I think my own country and it's performance is relevant when I decide to comment on other countries. I guess that's just a fundamental difference between some Canadians like me and some American like you.
Now you're starting to act like an American.

Aren't we all citizens of the same planet? Why aren't we allowed to see something fucked up and say "WOW! That's fucked up!" ??????
 

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Can you imagine a teacher being fired from a Lutheran, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Russian or Greek Orthodox etc. . . sponsored school for making a copying error in a biblical quotation? Can you imagine a mob pouring through the streets of Kingston or Rochester to burn down the school?
Well depends. Suppose you accidentally use an i instead of an a in the word nagger..... like in that south park episode of wheel of fortune. :)
 

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This one ranks Canada fourth
Norway, Australia, and Iceland, huh?

Try starting a business in one of those countries.

"9 to 5 is how you survive. I ain't trying to survive - I'm trying to live it to the limit and love it a lot." -Jay-Z
 

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Norway, Australia, and Iceland, huh?

Try starting a business in one of those countries.

"9 to 5 is how you survive. I ain't trying to survive - I'm trying to live it to the limit and love it a lot." -Jay-Z
I fully acknowledged it depends on the criteria you look for. And to be honest I really wouldn't know how easy or hard it is to start a business in those countries. But then again I do now that in Canada it's tough for businesses to make it past the first year.

But this is again besides the point.

You flat out said I don't know what I'm talking about so I provided you with a number of examples of how Canada is not the best country. It's a good country just not the best.
 
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