Lance Armstrong is #1 again
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So you want minimum education requirements and possible property ownership. Let's head back to the 19th century.
They've re-issued all sorts of medals. Check the medal awards for the last winter olympic, especially in cross country skiing.
Nope, neither are signs of competence, only entrenched power.
What I want is a basic IQ test, and only the top 25% of society gets to vote. Regardless of education, wealth, property, gender, race, occupation, political affiliation, etc. Also, regardless of age, because age discrimination toward young people is a big problem in the US.
The top 25%? Good luck with that. Which IQ test? considering no democracy I know does that it's never going to happen.
You're not making any points to support your stupid assertion that cycling is not even a sport.
I'd be fine with it, but my IQ is in the 99.5th percentile, so tough to imagine that being the case.
Is skateboarding a sport? How about riding scooters? Jumping rope? Is every physical activity in the world a sport?
Of course, I could tell you're really smart.
Well, if the 25% cutoff of only the smartest was good, wouldn't a top 0.01 percent cutoff be even better?
Then all laws and decisions would be REALLY REALLY REALLY good, and you at only 99.5 percentile wouldn't need to worry about making any decisions.
Would you be okay with that?
the problem is. the guy that finished 2nd was also doping (same goes for 3rd and 4th)
True. The biggest thing we've learned from this lance stuff is not that he doped, but everyone did. I guess we knew that, but know for sure now. Too bad it takes away from all he has accomplished both in and out of sport.
Not a sport???
Some have described the TdF as the toughest endurance sporting event on the planet.
http://theconversation.edu.au/suffer-score-how-demanding-is-le-tour-de-france-8040
It should also be noted... the thing with Armstrong is, he not only competed in such a grueling race of human physical and mental endurance, and won it 7 consecutive times... he did so AFTER surviving and overcoming stage 3 testicular cancer that claimed one of his testicles, and spread to his lungs, abdomen and brain. After surgery and chemo... he was reportedly given a less than 40% chance of survival, let alone a chance to ever compete again...
:Eek:
Some have described the TdF as the toughest endurance sporting event on the planet.
http://theconversation.edu.au/suffer-score-how-demanding-is-le-tour-de-france-8040
It should also be noted... the thing with Armstrong is, he not only competed in such a grueling race of human physical and mental endurance, and won it 7 consecutive times... he did so AFTER surviving and overcoming stage 3 testicular cancer that claimed one of his testicles, and spread to his lungs, abdomen and brain. After surgery and chemo... he was reportedly given a less than 40% chance of survival, let alone a chance to ever compete again...
:Eek:
My problem with Lance is that he's a bully who forced team-mates to participate in the cheating. That and the fact that he alone seems to think that he can maintain the fiction that he raced clean. He is revealed as the worlds greatest egomaniac. The races should just be scrubbed completely, prize money returned, and any legal issues brought up and resolved.
The fact that he hides behind his charity demonstrates what the charity is really for - it gives him a place to hide.
Regarding the debate on whether cycling is a "sport" - society has decided, it is. Pretty much any physical activity that can be conducted by more than one person in a context of competition can to be a sport. Cycling is physically very demanding, as anyone who has rode a bike up a mile long hill will know.
Regarding the discussion on democracy (strange how these things develop...) I am kinda ambivalent about that... and think there should be some sort of "test" that should be passed in order to vote, some measure of basic competence, knowledge of issues, demonstrable compassion and sensitivity, ability to focus attention long enough to follow an argument.... but balk at the idea that I.Q. should be the measure. Every MENSA member I've met is smart as hell and also a fuckup... So I have know idea how that would be done, and don't expect it ever will. I'd prefer the most perfect possible benign dictator appear, be immediately given full control of all the world, and somehow live for the next 1000 years making everything right. I'd vote for her... though obviously there wouldn't be a vote in that world.
The fact that he hides behind his charity demonstrates what the charity is really for - it gives him a place to hide.
Regarding the debate on whether cycling is a "sport" - society has decided, it is. Pretty much any physical activity that can be conducted by more than one person in a context of competition can to be a sport. Cycling is physically very demanding, as anyone who has rode a bike up a mile long hill will know.
Regarding the discussion on democracy (strange how these things develop...) I am kinda ambivalent about that... and think there should be some sort of "test" that should be passed in order to vote, some measure of basic competence, knowledge of issues, demonstrable compassion and sensitivity, ability to focus attention long enough to follow an argument.... but balk at the idea that I.Q. should be the measure. Every MENSA member I've met is smart as hell and also a fuckup... So I have know idea how that would be done, and don't expect it ever will. I'd prefer the most perfect possible benign dictator appear, be immediately given full control of all the world, and somehow live for the next 1000 years making everything right. I'd vote for her... though obviously there wouldn't be a vote in that world.
Probably... Unless, of course, your IQ is too low to understand what you're reading...Sure it is. We can tell just by reading your posts
