Gotta think Seve Ballesteros had something to do with it.
Plus Tiger didn't win a match, so it makes me even more happy
Plus Tiger didn't win a match, so it makes me even more happy
Ryder Cup come back, wow!
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That was thrilling.
I stopped watching around 3:00 and it was still 10-6. I started watching again at 5:00 and it was 12-11 USA and they were ahead 3-1-1 in the remaining matches. Next hour and a half was great drama and I loved the result.
Tiger didn't fist pump very much all weekend so he should have lots of strength in his right hand for jerking off.
Aside from Olazabal, I don't think Ballesteros was a significant factor.
I stopped watching around 3:00 and it was still 10-6. I started watching again at 5:00 and it was 12-11 USA and they were ahead 3-1-1 in the remaining matches. Next hour and a half was great drama and I loved the result.
Tiger didn't fist pump very much all weekend so he should have lots of strength in his right hand for jerking off.
Aside from Olazabal, I don't think Ballesteros was a significant factor.
That was a great match to watch. It was nice to see the U.S.A. lose after all the fist pumping the likes of Keegan and a few others were doing yesterday. They blew their loads yesterday and didn't have enough stamina to win today. The big surprise was Lawrie beating Snedeker the way he did 5 & 4, now that was a surprise.
I feel really bad for Jim Furyk.
He has had a year to forget. Not only did he loose the Ryder Cup for America but he also pissed away a late Sunday 3 stroke lead and eventually lost the US Open to Webb Simpson.
2 bad so sad
He has had a year to forget. Not only did he loose the Ryder Cup for America but he also pissed away a late Sunday 3 stroke lead and eventually lost the US Open to Webb Simpson.
2 bad so sad
The way Canada no longer dominates international hockey, the U.S. no longer dominates golf.
It also won't be long 'til the same holds true for basketball.
Yes, I felt a bit bad for some of them. Most were in shock at the way the match ended.
Happy for Europe though. They played really well in most of those singles.
Bit of an ugly crowd at times. Funny though to hear some of them telling Tiger to get it in the hole!!!!!
I see you have this clever retort down to a science.
Have you been working on it for a while or did it come to you in a moment of inspiration.
On paper this was the best US team in a while. It was reflected in the world rankings.
The Euro team was dominant in the world rankings at the beginning of 2012. But throughout 2012 the US team really raised its profile.
The more experienced USA players have always sucked at the cup. Furyk, Strick, Woods, Phil (with the exception of this year). Once the makeup of the team starts to change it could have success. Stricker was the one who was just plain awful this year. Tiger was OK at times (nothing better) but he had no partner. Of course Tiger is partly to blame for it, as he is the one that wants to play with Stricker and that was the main reason he was a captain pick.
The Euro team was dominant in the world rankings at the beginning of 2012. But throughout 2012 the US team really raised its profile.
The more experienced USA players have always sucked at the cup. Furyk, Strick, Woods, Phil (with the exception of this year). Once the makeup of the team starts to change it could have success. Stricker was the one who was just plain awful this year. Tiger was OK at times (nothing better) but he had no partner. Of course Tiger is partly to blame for it, as he is the one that wants to play with Stricker and that was the main reason he was a captain pick.
Out of the top 5 in the world rankings, only one is American, and that is Tiger Woods in second. I don't necessarily disagree that many US players came on strong towards the end of PGA season and the world rankings may not reflect that. Phil played well for the US, yes he got beat on Sunday, but his performance was strong non the less.
I don't see Tiger as a team player, period. I think he thinks he's on some different "plato" then the rest. It's like going to a party with your parents, you just want them to leave early... I used to like Furyk, but his comments at the press conference rubbed me the wrong way. Keegan Bradley no doubt is a strong player and handled himself with dignity after the defeat. But I still think that Phil Mickelson was the most gracious in defeat.
I don't see Tiger as a team player, period. I think he thinks he's on some different "plato" then the rest. It's like going to a party with your parents, you just want them to leave early... I used to like Furyk, but his comments at the press conference rubbed me the wrong way. Keegan Bradley no doubt is a strong player and handled himself with dignity after the defeat. But I still think that Phil Mickelson was the most gracious in defeat.
The USA has an unprecedented 11 of the top 17 players in the world rankings. Europe only has four (although they are high) It was easily the deepest American team in a long time based on how they were playing, and the world rankings defintely support this. Don't think you should just analyze the top 5 in the world in a 24 man event.
Really there was the top four since about April,and then a large gap. And in that top four, none of Woods, Donald or Westwood had been any better than the rest of the players in the event over the past three months.
At this time in 2011 and at the beginning of 2012 it really seemed like Europe was stacked and the clear favourites. But they generally had a poor 2012 golf season, while the US had a very good season. At the beginning of 2012 the USA had 7 top 20 players, and Europe had 10 of the top 20. The 11th ranked US player was #29 in the world,,,, now its #17. That's a massive change.
For the sake of comparison in the prior Ryder Cup years at this time (with the aid of World Golf Rankings Archive), the 11th best US player was ranked..
2010 - #25
2008 - #36
2006 - #38
Just gives you an idea of how deep this US team was and how there has been an infusion of late 20's-early 30's talent.
It should also be noted that there has been a severe drop off in the "REST OF THE WORLD", i.e the President's Cup International Team in the past five years. Sort of strange in what seems to be a growing global game, that the two old forces of golf (US and Europe) have become stronger.
Right now the Internationals only have 12 of the top 55, and only 3 of the top 20.
Compare to the 2007 team that was in Montreal, that had 12 of the top 31, and 10 of the top 20 players in the world at this time in 2007.
It's just interesting to see how the Internationals have fell in the past few years -- its counter to what you would expect.
There's one anomaly that I didn't see mentioned in this thread yet and it obviously ended up having an impact. The way Colsaerts played on the Friday to beat Tiger and Stricker. That was the game of his life. Tiger played well, but came up against a very rare occurrence. Had that guy played anywhere near his normal game, the match was Tiger and Stricker's. Westwood was almost laughing towards the end of the match every time Colsaerts sank a putt. The guy couldn't miss. It was only one match, but that ended up being the difference. On any other day, that match would have gone to Woods and Stricker.
