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I'll take fuji over bottom any day. At least he posts on a wide variety of topics.
And he's an infallible expert on all of them...

LOL
 

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Sigh.

There are the blind, and there are people who have reasonable expectations.

Yes, Google have improved their product for many years.

But it was very usable from Day One.

Which Apple Maps most certainly is not.

In fact, if people tried to use Apple maps en masse, they are very likely to die. Has Apple accepted liability for their failures? Will they?

A key condition for any Apple app has always been that it is not legally permitted to offer any assurances regarding driving directions (or location etc for planes in flight). Yet Apple have now promised exactly that with their own, highly flawed, app.

Sad to see so many fanbois making excuses for them.
 

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Let's go back to the original question: did Apple make the right decision with Maps? It's easy to say in hindsight that Apple should have stuck with Google or waited another year to release its own Maps app. However, consider the factors that Apple had to deal with:

Allowing Google to control a key piece of iOS was unacceptable. If Apple had no alternative to Google Maps, the search giant could have made high demands that Apple would have had to accept. Having no default Maps application is unthinkable for a major smartphone.
The longer Apple took to release its own Maps app, the more entrenched Google Maps would be.
The only way to test a new map application at a large scale it to release it to users. They will be able to find holes quicker than a small team of engineers.
A mapping application can only go so far without large amounts of user-generated data.
Even in hindsight, I believe Tim Cook and the Apple team made the right decision -- the only decision they could, really -- with Maps. Sure, they should have let users test out the application as a beta before releasing it on iOS 6, but that's not Apple's style. Besides, Google would have had plenty of time to dissect an Apple-built maps app and adapt its best features to Google Maps.

Next time you just copy and paste an article from the internet please credit the author or at least supply the link. I already read this word for word elsewhere. are you the author or just trying to take credit for something that isn't yours?

oh and btw I don't remember that as being the original question.
 

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Even the Apple experts don't agree with Apple's decision to release Apple Maps in it's current form

Apple's Maps app blunder ranks with 'Antennagate' in missteps, say experts
Has 48 to 72 hours to deal with firestorm of criticism, get Google Maps into the App Store


djk's favorite Apple expert:
"The maps experience in iOS 6 is a downgrade," acknowledged John Gruber, who writes the Daring Fireball blog.
this is another often quoted by the Apple faithful:
"The biggest drawback I found is the new Maps app," said Walt Mossberg, an influential columnist for the Wall Street Journal, in his review of the iPhone 5 on Thursday.

"Apple has to have seen these [problems] with its Maps months ago," said Gaspar. "But they seemed to have believed that they were in a position where consumers would give them a pass."

Gaspar called that arrogance.

"It was very arrogant of them to assume that no one would have anything negative to say, especially with another iPhone coming out, that in the long term it would just go away," said Gaspar.

"There's no excuse for what Apple ultimately delivered," said Moorhead. "It's amazing what Apple thinks they can push on consumers."


Both experts said the fix was obvious.

"If nothing else, they need to be able to give users some sort of choice," said Gaspar. "They need to make Google Maps available through the App Store, even though the two are arch enemies."


And yet the Apple faithful here are defending it and attacking those that disagree or want to point out this problem.
typical from a few of them :p
and then they try to hijack the thread by saying Android fans are worse lol typical!!
 

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Oh I don't know: https://plus.google.com/+AshleyEsqueda/posts/92SDQYNx5Rq

I don't remember a slew of trash (b4u style) when the Galaxy III was released....
ok back that up!! show me one post where I attack someone for their choice! show me one post where I have ever told someone not to buy an Apple product!
show me one post where I have said Apple is a bad product!

I don't have allegiance to one product as many here do(you come to mind frankly)

I am a fan of Android,Google,Microsoft,linux and many others. absolutely no allegiance to any single manufacturer or company. I have never said Apple make a bad product and have in fact recommended in these forums and to others that the Apple product may be the best one for "them", generally much older technophobic types but none the less I realise the simplicity of Apple and think it's great for many people.
I did recommend it for my mother and grandmother in fact

but yea I challenge you to find posts of the type you accuse me of.
 
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maps have worked fine for me...but it's not a good sign that Apple chose to release them before having them work 100%. It's a departure from their past practice.
 

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Seems like the bigger they get, the more like M$ they become, only more pricey!....:D
 

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maps have worked fine for me...but it's not a good sign that Apple chose to release them before having them work 100%. It's a departure from their past practice.
My experience as well, I downloaded iOS6 on both my phone (iPhone 4) and iPad and I've not seen any issue with Maps - that said I've only used it for a couple of days so that's not much of a test. I did notice it's much faster than Google Maps in zoom in/out, driving directions worked well although it doesn't automatically change the route when I take a different path.... I don't use public transit directions but both walking and driving worked well. The satellite image of my back yard is within the last 6-8 months.

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Fear not!
It will probably get better on the next iPhone!.....:D
 

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Considering the polish that google maps has achieved, I don't get why apple insists on building it's own lesser app.
 

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Considering the polish that google maps has achieved, I don't get why apple insists on building it's own lesser app.
Sheer GREED!!!
Apple wants the whole enchilada and doesn't want to give Google any piece of the action. Apple is betting their docile well trained sheeple will just suck it up and swallow the lesser Apple app!....:p They will unleash their slippery slick tongued salesmen like bottie, et al., to tell those in the iCult the inferior Apple version is better than Google maps....:biggrin1:
 

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Sheer GREED!!!
Apple wants the whole enchilada and doesn't want to give Google any piece of the action. Apple is betting their docile well trained sheeple will just suck it up and swallow the lesser Apple app!....:p They will unleash their slippery slick tongued salesmen like bottie, et al., to tell those in the iCult the inferior Apple version is better than Google maps....:biggrin1:
Wow!!!! Is this what passes for intelligent discussion here on Terb? Far out!!
 

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I know Apple lovers do not like adverse publicity that highlights worms in their Apple image.

I like the threads and find the Apple diehards reactions very interesting. Just how bad does Apple have to be before a diehard stops making ludicrous excuses for technical faults - instantaneous combustion of his iPhone perhaps ?

It's funny how perceptions change. I use to look at iPhone owners as tech savvy - now I view iPhone 5 users more as members of a religious sect like Scientology.



That they are, considering how much they invest into it, they had better be loyal devotees.
 

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i love how apple fans are bragging they got stuff that droid users had like 2 or 3 years ago lol.
 
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