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simon482

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nope, just smile, turn away...why would i say something?...then they wouldnt come back to my place of busness
so then stop complaining about it if your pride or loyalty to your race is for sale, just stfu and take it. you are clearly stating you have no spine, you only care about money. so it is not only white people that are to blame, you and people like you are also to blame.
 

Carling

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so then stop complaining about it if your pride or loyalty to your race is for sale, just stfu and take it. you are clearly stating you have no spine, you only care about money. so it is not only white people that are to blame, you and people like you are also to blame.
lol..ok you're right! btw we are the majority...saints like you are special
 

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i am 33 and went to school in the country of northern ontario. my best friend up there married a black girl. another guy i know has a chinese wife. some moved to toronto for the diversity of culture.
From the Northerners I know, even though they tend to be left leaning and okay with most races, just don't ask them about natives.
 

simon482

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lol..ok you're right! btw we are the majority...saints like you are special
everyone should just give up. that is the easiest path. so you know my daughter goes to a school where she is the only white kid in her class and gets made fun of for it.
 

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i am 33 and went to school in the country of northern ontario. my best friend up there married a black girl. another guy i know has a chinese wife. some moved to toronto for the diversity of culture.
You know I've also lived and worked in northern Ontario for 4+ years and even further north than that, off and on for many years. The racism is there, but the target is slightly different, not necessarily blacks. There aren't many b lacks, arabs, Pinos, but there are a few hundred thousand natives and they get it full bore way too much. Mind you, it goes both ways unfortunately.

I took a friend and his island wife up to the north end of the Ottawa Valley and I warned by my host that they might get the treatment from the locals, so be advised. It wasn't new to them, but they were surprised that far from civilization, meaning TO. They did, but it wasn't overt. I saw it and heard it, but I suspect they didn't.
 

simon482

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From the Northerners I know, even though they tend to be left leaning and okay with most races, just don't ask them about natives.
they like to be given things and think they are owed. it is no different than the ghetto attitude in toronto. some (not all) use the "i am a product of my environment" excuse.
 

Carling

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everyone should just give up. that is the easiest path. so you know my daughter goes to a school where she is the only white kid in her class and gets made fun of for it.
that's a shame...let's just say this shit isn't just for the white people...we all do it.
 

simon482

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You know I've also lived and worked in northern Ontario for 4+ years and even further north than that, off and on for many years. The racism is there, but the target is slightly different, not necessarily blacks. There aren't many b lacks, arabs, Pinos, but there are a few hundred thousand natives and they get it full bore way too much. Mind you, it goes both ways unfortunately.

I took a friend and his island girl wife up to the north end of the Ottawa Valley and I warned by my host that they might get the treatment from the locals, so be advised. It wasn't new to them, but they were surprised that far from civilization, meaning TO.
i was in georgetown and i was in a coffee shop. i heard mumbling behind me and then someone yelled out that i should leave with some serious racial expletives added on. they thought i was indian from the tan i had. i snapped back at them, told them i was british irish and i would be happy to wait for them outside. the attitude changed quick.

i am not saying racism doesn't exist but it still here because people do nothing to stop it cuz it is inconvenient. if you actually said something to them more often than not they shut up, that is what happens to bullies when they get stood up to.
 

Carling

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i was in georgetown and i was in a coffee shop. i heard mumbling behind me and then someone yelled out that i should leave with some serious racial expletives added on. they thought i was indian from the tan i had. i snapped back at them, told them i was british irish and i would be happy to wait for them outside. the attitude changed quick.

i am not saying racism doesn't exist but it still here because people do nothing to stop it cuz it is inconvenient. if you actually said something to them more often than not they shut up, that is what happens to bullies when they get stood up to.
what happens when there is 4 of them and only one of you?
 

simon482

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that's a shame...let's just say this shit isn't just for the white people...we all do it.
it is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with. every race is capable of it and does it. whites get the blame cuz they did it longer than anyone. it's 2012 already and i really don't understand with all the information we have and things we know how it could still be an issue. same with gays and what they are allowed to do but that is a whole other thread.
 

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they like to be given things and think they are owed. it is no different than the ghetto attitude in toronto. some (not all) use the "i am a product of my environment" excuse.
Yep, no racism against natives in Canada.
 

simon482

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what happens when there is 4 of them and only one of you?
are your morals and convictions worth more to you than a bump on the head ? i been beaten down for not backing down on what i think and i would do it again.
 

simon482

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Yep, no racism against natives in Canada.
i don't hate the race. some of them have a really shitty attitude. ask me the same question about white folk from a trailer park and you would get the same answer. there are bad in every group that is why i said "some (not all)" because it is some and not all. it's just the bad ones you hear about more cuz they make noise, the good people in every group make no noise because they are just doing there thing and wanting to be left alone and happy.
 

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No race, ethnic and/or religious group is perfect. I use to travel to NYC frequently in the 1990's and you should hear what Korean storekeepers say about Blacks and what Blacks say about Korean shopkeepers.
 

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No race, ethnic and/or religious group is perfect. I use to travel to NYC frequently in the 1990's and you should hear what Korean storekeepers say about Blacks and what Blacks say about Korean shopkeepers
Yup, thats very true.

We had a black kid on my baseball team and he used to say Asians are some of the most racist people on earth (he meant racist primarily towards blacks).

Also I dunno if any of you have ever been to Japan, but as a white guy try dating a Japanese girl and see how well that goes over with her father. Of course if the reverse happened, and your white father would object to you dating an Asian girl, he'd be branded a "racist"
 

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The idea of racial and religious equality is a relatively new idea that seems to have been embraced first and most pervasively by white cultural groups, starting with France, Britain, and the various colonies. There were certainly thinkers here and there elsewhere who discussed the concept, but white Europeans were the first to put it into practice as a core value and social organizational principle.

It has not yet permeated most other cultural groups and as this racist shooting shows is obviously not yet accepted by a few whites as well. Many minorities talk about it for selfish purposes, to the extent that they benefit, but do not practice the idea themselves.

It's a learning curve that human civilization is on as we collectively throw off the limiting binds of savagery which relatively recently every culture suffered from.

The success of European culture in rising to global dominance is at least in part the result of a fundamental, and really quite brave and new, belief that the other guy should share in the gains too.
 
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The idea of racial and religious equality is a relatively new idea that seems to have been embraced first and most pervasively by white cultural groups, starting with France, Britain, and the various colonies. There were certainly thinkers here and there elsewhere who discussed the concept, but white Europeans were the first to put it into practice as a core value and social organizational principle.

It has not yet permeated most other cultural groups and as this racist shooting shows is obviously not yet accepted by a few whites as well. Many minorities talk about it for selfish purposes, to the extent that they benefit, but do not practice the idea themselves.

It's a learning curve they human civilization is on as we collectively throw off the limiting binds of savagery which relatively recently every culture suffered from.

The success of European culture in rising to global dominance is at least in part the result of a fundamental, and really quite brave and new, belief that the other guy should share in the gains too.
Yup. I know friends who lived in Arab nations where they have someone whom they work under and that person is entitled to their income and business proceeds. And I've met ppl who lived in Japan. The word "Gaijen" is what they are mostly referred to as.
 

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Sadly if you look far back in history, some of the people who began to grasp the idea that you win biggest when the other guy also wins were non-white. Cyris the Great of Persia/Iran was a great example way way way back in 600 BC. He would conquer his enemies, then promote their culture and send his people in to help them rebuild. Just as it did for the British, it worked out pretty well for him, and he built a pretty big empire, pretty quickly, as his enemies realized that losing to him was actually one of the best things that ever happened to them. Unfortunately his descendants lost the thread and we went back to another couple thousand years of unenlightened winner-take-all savagery.

The greatest legacy the West gave the world was developing a winning technological/economic/military formula, and then instead of just using it to crush everyone else (which at first they did) threw open the doors and invited everyone else to join in. It's a powerful idea, that is far too easily lost.
 

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I don't agree at all. There is very much an awareness of people like Timothy McVeigh and now this guy. It's just a false claim. It is taken seriously, and Carling has no reason whatsoever to think that it is not. I pointed out that it's taken seriously by the FBI, and Carling has provided no reason anywhere to think that it isn't taken seriously. It's just an expression of his resentful bitterness, I think.
It's amazing how you have your finger on the pulse of white america.

You think white America is enlightened but you forget that
-there are states that won't teach evolution or want the acknowledgement of intelligent design.
-there are poor whites
-there are uneducated whites
-there are whites raised as racists
-there are whites who have not left their home towns

Obviouslym this can be applied to any race

But my point is that given the variance in the population you can't assume the majority think the same way as the FBI

If people were as enlightened as you'd like to think then homegrown terror in the form of white supremicists should be small and not a problem. Sexual harassment in the work placue shouldn't be a problem. Hell harassment even happens in places like the RCMP. Of course it would be silly to assume that we would see 0% incidence but my point is that it's still a problem.

Have you ever been in a staff meeting where you manager reminds you annually about something you are not supposed to do. And you think to yourself "why are they telling me this again?!!!" and the answer is that even though it's obvious to you there are still idiots out there who need to be reminded not to do X, Y or Z at work.
 
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