Even with people calling the authorities it still happens. not cooperating with the cops is only part of the problem.
Gunfire on Morningside!
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If I remember correctly the RC church has been sucessfully sued many times for actions of pedophile priests.
The comment about the boys was a joke. point is that it is still a problem more common with whites.
of course they wouldnt. what threat does reporting your diddling neighbour pose to you? none. what threat does reporting a gangbanger whose gang controls the area that you live in pose to you? a heck of a lot more.
what some of you guys dont seem to get is that when you live in an area (or have ties to an area/community) that is controlled by gangs, the police arent going to be much help to you if you get deemed a snitch. you'll be laid up on a slab long before they arrive.
no one wants to see their community in the throes of violence - do you think these people just dont say anything because of some unwritten code? theyre afraid of being on the receiving end of a smackdown!
Neither does any other colour of folks, but they weren't there.
And it's a huge and ugly leap from judging all the folks there as if they all saw something reportable but chose to say silent, all the way to judging anyone who shares a skin colour with them of the same imagined behaviour.
At this point we only know that some have provided info and that not all have yet been interviewed.
It is actually more of a code. As was with the Mafia back in the day. The police take extra care not to reveal one's identity. And this is toronto not a Columbian city. The Gangs are not powerful enough to control entire areas of the town and administer their own justice.
What link? There was one cited on another thread previously and your statements above would be a COMPLETE misrepresentation of what it said, if it's the same thing. The claim you have to back up is that white people are more likely to commit sexual assaults. I say that's a lie and that there is no evidence to support it, in fact, the US data refutes it.
This is the link claiming whites are more likely to be arrested for sex offensesThere is something wrong I just think culture is the wrong word. But not worth arguing over what the right words is to describe the source of the problem.
But using fuji's idea of culture..... what's wrong with white culture that it is more likely to produce sex offenders, drug related, sex trade and panhandler? As opposed to blacks who are more likely to be invovled in gangs, guns. homocides?
http://media.thestar.topscms.com/acrobat/dd/49/f22a053a43cd98df18c4650f56d7.pdf seee page 8
Maybe this just shows that white are pussies.JOKING
But whites need to answer for their culture of diddlers, druggies, pimps/pros, and moochers.
Or another way to look at things what is the asian community doing such that the percentage of prison population is half of what their population in canada is. That is quite remarkable as blacks and aboriginals are over represented and white are about even.
For those who have reading comprehension problems, this is the part FC was referring to:
Oh, and I'd like to add. Asians are more likely to be busted with a marijuana grow-op
Oh, and I'd like to add. Asians are more likely to be busted with a marijuana grow-op
So this is a lie, and you should apologize and retract: "what's wrong with white culture that it is more likely to produce sex offenders". The Toronto Star article data does not say that.
What is says is that if you are white, you are more likely to have *contact* with the police in the context of a sex offense. What it does NOT say is that the rate of sex offenses by white is higher than average. The statement about contact can be true even if the rate of offenses by whites is lower than anybody else. In other words, it may be--and probalby is--that whites commit sex offenses at a lower rate than anybody else, but at a higher rate than they commit other crimes.
Basing anything off "contact" rather than "arrest" or "charge" never mind "conviction" is also deeply problematic. It may be, and probably is the case, that whites are more likely to turn to the police than blacks are. Thus you will find that blacks are NOT calling the police to report possible sex offenses, whereas whites are, and thus you wind up with more contact, even if you wind up with far fewer charges.
In terms of CHARGES, the only thing your article notes is that more "sex serious" charges are laid in the Jane & Finch area than anywhere else. That sounds to me like blacks are committing more of the actual sex crimes, but making fewer reports about it to the police.
I'm copy and pasting the story here because people need to read it.
Joshua Yasay: Shooting victim was a passionate youth worker, business owner
Tim Alamenciak and Chantaie Allick
Staff Reporters
COURTESY YASAY FAMILY Joshua Yasay had recently earned a degree in criminology and hoped to apply for the police force.
Minutes before his death, Joshua Yasay messaged his close friend Steven.
“He was messaging me saying he doesn’t know why he’s there, it’s not his kind of crowd,” said Steven. “I messaged back and said, ‘Don’t be there, just leave.’”
The messages stopped at 10:16 p.m. The shooting started shortly after.
Scarborough shooting victim identified as 14-year-old Shyanne Charles
Yasay, a 23-year-old from Ajax, was gunned down Monday night when bullets flew at a community barbecue in Scarborough, near Morningside Ave. and Lawrence Ave. A 14-year-old girl, Shyanne Charles, was also killed in the melee.
As CPR was performed on Yasay, party organizer Shannon Longshaw stood by. “We just saw blood. He just said, ‘Don’t let me die. Save me.’”
Yasay’s was a life full of big dreams — some already achieved and many that will go unfulfilled. He earned an honours bachelor of arts degree in criminology from York University last year and opened a barbershop with a friend. Over the past two years he spent his scant spare time coaching basketball for at-risk youth in Malvern, trying to stem the very kind of violence that led to his death.
“The one thing that he’d want is to find out who did this to him so it could give his family some peace,” said Jennilyn Grace Yasay, her voice thickening with tears.
“I don’t know; I’m without words right now,” said Jennilyn, one of Yasay’s two older sisters. “I just basically want to say he was at the wrong place at the wrong time, and justice will be served.”
Yasay and a friend opened Goodfellas Barber Lounge in Ajax last October. He split his time between being a security guard at Commerce Court in downtown Toronto, coaching basketball and running the barbershop. While building his business and working, Yasay still had his eyes on the next step — he and Steven planned to apply for the police force together.
“He was setting stones for what he’s going to do next, what he’s going to accomplish,” said Steven. He said that despite Yasay’s busy schedule, he would make time for friends and was always there for anyone that needed it.
“He was a good person. Part of the reason why we called it Goodfellas was because of that,” said a close friend who co-owns the barbershop with Yasay. He asked not to be named.
He lost a friend today, he said, his voice low. Men lounged in the quiet shop outfitted with black leather barber chairs and a flat-screen television in the back. None was ready to talk about their lost friend.
Yasay just bought a brand-new car Saturday, Steven said. But he wasn’t driving Monday night, so Steven’s warnings and Yasay’s discomfort went unheeded.
Yasay felt fulfilled when he was coaching youth basketball, said Katie Bushie, program manager at the Learning Disabilities Association of Toronto. She said his face would light up when he walked in, and any stress from running the business or working would disappear.
Yasay even stayed after hours to spend time mentoring some of the kids.
More: Tragedy began as a family barbecue
“It’s not good for anybody when this happens, but he was one of the good guys. That’s what it comes down to. He was one of the true good guys really trying to equalize the playing field,” Bushie said.
A passionate basketball fan, he directed his last tweet at the Toronto Raptors’ most recent acquisition, Landry Fields. Yasay wrote: “welcome to Toronto! You’ll love it here! City like no other!”
He believed that his work with the kids would help prevent violence and keep them from a life of crime, said Bushie. He coached kids aged 13 to 17 — a particularly at-risk and headstrong group. His supervisor said he was able to get through to even the most difficult kids.
“They’re the ones that are picking up the guns, they’re the ones having those struggles,” said Bushie. “Josh got that part; that’s why he was so passionate about working with them.”
In June, after the program ended for the summer, Bushie tried to bring Yasay on as a paid employee as opposed to a volunteer, but he said he couldn’t imagine taking money for the work, she said.
“He was a real angel.”
You are picking and choosing what you want.
That same link talks about blacks contacted for gang guns n homicides. shall we apply the same excuses you just used for whites and sex offenses.
Anyways you continue your ant black crusade even though your regression showed that being black is not a strong factor.
All i was doing was substituting a few words to watch you take offense when the statement is against whites.
Mission accomplished.
Want a reference for a guy who does windows? i think you put a rock through one.
Im sure for all races and cultures we can find problems. pretty silly to pretend there's one that doesn't
There are a number of ways to reduce gang / thuggery violence. (it can NEVER BE STOPPED)
1)Break up these pockets where it perpetuates.
2)have a diversified community where the majority good people referee the bad ones.
3)Stop importing gang mentality, particularly thru immigration from Jamaica, Sri Lanka, etc.
4)better stringent screening of immigrants. (that horse has likely left the stable)
5)Longer harder jail time for thugs ( way way way longer)
6)good people needa stop going to thug parties, reduce crowds..let em shoot each other..not innocent good people.
7)families need to account, and be accountable for raising these thugs. Stop looking for others to solve it.
If you are gonna rely on the system, to finance your child rearing, then suggest poverty, and absent baby daddy are a problem...DON'T have the baby's that become THUGS
Again...it cannot be totally stopped
1)Break up these pockets where it perpetuates.
2)have a diversified community where the majority good people referee the bad ones.
3)Stop importing gang mentality, particularly thru immigration from Jamaica, Sri Lanka, etc.
4)better stringent screening of immigrants. (that horse has likely left the stable)
5)Longer harder jail time for thugs ( way way way longer)
6)good people needa stop going to thug parties, reduce crowds..let em shoot each other..not innocent good people.
7)families need to account, and be accountable for raising these thugs. Stop looking for others to solve it.
If you are gonna rely on the system, to finance your child rearing, then suggest poverty, and absent baby daddy are a problem...DON'T have the baby's that become THUGS
Again...it cannot be totally stopped
Just in case you guys missed it, we had another shooting fatality last night:
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/art...gta-soccer-field-identified-as-clayton-wright
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/art...gta-soccer-field-identified-as-clayton-wright
No, I am looking at the data you referenced and showing that it DOES NOT say what you claimed. You have no reason to think that whites commit more sex crimes than blacks do. Certainly, nothing in this report should lead you to think so. It simply does not say that, contrary to your claim.
I agree that nothing in THIS report actually says blacks are responsible for more of the gun crime and homicide. Of course, we know that from other sources, and there's information here consistent with what we know. But it would be a dangerous assumption to claim that blacks were responsible for all of the gun crime, if all we had to go on was this table showing how much "contact" they have with the police, whatever "contact" means. The amount of "contact" is plainly going to have more to do with where the police decide to investigate, than with anything else.
We know that blacks are responsible for gun crime from the charges and convictions, and from the people who are actually wanted by the police as suspects, as opposed to people who merely had "contact".
Except that what you said about whites was untrue and a lie, whereas what I said about blacks was true.
You deeply want to believe that everybody is the same, that there is no racialized problem with violent crime. It's just not true. There is in fact a racialized aspect to violent crime in Toronto. Face it.
No i have said a number of times that Toronto has a problem with blacks shooting people.
I just like highlighting that when you make comments about race suddenly they seem quite different when dire Ted at you.
Anyways Im sure police are just contacting whites about sex offenses because they have so much tome on their hands.
But it makes sense to contact whites. for the same reason there are more cops in Jane and pinch than say the briarpath
Then again maybe its not being white that makes them get more contacts its because of the perverted white culture.....sarcasm
