Toronto Raptors have gone from Tanking to Spending . Raptors offseason

[JamesDouglas]

The Knicks just traded for Raymond Felton, does this mean they won't match the $25 million offer sheet given to Lin by the Rockets? With Felton and Kidd you don't need Lin, they'll be spending $10 million on Felton and $9.5 million on Kidd, it would make little sense for them to pay another point guard $25 million i.e. Lin.

Lin is good, but he's not worth $25 million, if the Rockets end up getting him they'll have to pay him $14 million in the third year of his contract. If the Knicks match the offer sheet and keep Lin it would be pretty stupid, considering how much they're already paying the other 2 guards, not to mention Melo, Amare and Chandler.

I can name 10 point guards in the league that are better than Lin just off the top of my head, Rose, Westbrook, Paul, D-Will, Rondo, Nash, Parker, Curry, Irving, even Chalmers, it would be a joke if he gets voted in as the starting guard in the all-star game due to voting in China a la Yao Ming.

 

[Babypowder]

The Knicks just traded for Raymond Felton, does this mean they won't match the $25 million offer sheet given to Lin by the Rockets? With Felton and Kidd you don't need Lin, they'll be spending $10 million on Felton and $9.5 million on Kidd, it would make little sense for them to pay another point guard $25 million i.e. Lin.

Lin is good, but he's not worth $25 million, if the Rockets end up getting him they'll have to pay him $14 million in the third year of his contract. If the Knicks match the offer sheet and keep Lin it would be pretty stupid, considering how much they're already paying the other 2 guards, not to mention Melo, Amare and Chandler.

I can name 10 point guards in the league that are better than Lin just off the top of my head, Rose, Westbrook, Paul, D-Will, Rondo, Nash, Parker, Curry, Irving, even Chalmers, it would be a joke if he gets voted in as the starting guard in the all-star game due to voting in China a la Yao Ming.

+1

i can't believe hes getting offers like that based off of 35 games. dude is so over hyped.

 

[Dawgger]

Lin will be a Rocket. NY isn't going to pick up that contract, NY may have problems, Kidd has been charged with DUI.

 

[frankcastle]

The Knicks just traded for Raymond Felton, does this mean they won't match the $25 million offer sheet given to Lin by the Rockets? With Felton and Kidd you don't need Lin, they'll be spending $10 million on Felton and $9.5 million on Kidd, it would make little sense for them to pay another point guard $25 million i.e. Lin.

Lin is good, but he's not worth $25 million, if the Rockets end up getting him they'll have to pay him $14 million in the third year of his contract. If the Knicks match the offer sheet and keep Lin it would be pretty stupid, considering how much they're already paying the other 2 guards, not to mention Melo, Amare and Chandler.

I can name 10 point guards in the league that are better than Lin just off the top of my head, Rose, Westbrook, Paul, D-Will, Rondo, Nash, Parker, Curry, Irving, even Chalmers, it would be a joke if he gets voted in as the starting guard in the all-star game due to voting in China a la Yao Ming.

Yeah and how many of those PGs were available for the rockets to even make a move on? Nash, D Will..... after they were snapped up and they had dealt Lowry and Dragic they needed a PG. Lin is going to be a mid tier PG. Not the best not the worst. Serviceable. Worth 5 mill a yr yes. Worth 14 mill no.

If he does get voted in that would be a travesty but in the case of Yao less so. I think for his position Yao is more of a stand out player than Lin is at PG. The all star has become a bit of a popularity contest and that bothers me but what can you do?

 

[Casa_Nova]

If he does decently, the Rockets will more than recuperate the money through what he'll bring in through merchandising.

As for the All Star gig, I'm sure Stern will be more than happy if it happens...heck he'll probably try to make it happen. It'll generate money for the league and that's all he cares about.

 

[mightymouse007]

Sux to see him go to Houston. Wish he could play in TO, we got a huge asian fan base here.

 

[vixxcampbell]

Anyone know where guyroch is? He used to post on terb.

 

[Bargnani_]

I think defensively, we got better this year. That counts for a lot, as our defense looked much better last year but pales in comparison to the elite defensive teams.

Rememeber that Landry's rookie season was Pre-Melo. His skill set doesn't justify the 20million dollar gamble but he may thrive more in a team concept, scoring more and contributing more on defense. Kyle Lowry is a great defender and defense was one of the reasons the raps picked Ross. Casey is going to have to come up with offensive schemes that put points on the board and don't rely on Bargnani to take too many shots. Last thing we want is to be empty handed if he gets injured again.

Well one of the casualities of Landry's signing is ... The Toronto Raptors, in a deal designed to create some additional salary-cap space, have agreed to trade forward James Johnson to the Sacramento Kings for a future second-round pick, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.

The trade could be consummated as soon as Monday, sources said.

So the Raptors gave away a 1st round pic to get James Johnson and get only a conditional 2nd round pic when they trade him away

 

[Bargnani_]

For those interested . Here are the box scores from Raps summer league games so far . Some good highlights of our draft pic in action.

http://www.nba.com/summer-league/games/20120713/HOUTOR/gameinfo.html

http://www.nba.com/summer-league/games/20120715/TORMIA/gameinfo.html

 

[wonkyknee]

Wow that's too bad. James Johnson was one of the more entertaining players last year. It would have been nice to give him another year to refine his skills. To me this is kind of like giving up on Kris Humphries....and for a second round pick??

Well one of the casualities of Landry's signing is ... The Toronto Raptors, in a deal designed to create some additional salary-cap space, have agreed to trade forward James Johnson to the Sacramento Kings for a future second-round pick, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.

The trade could be consummated as soon as Monday, sources said.

So the Raptors gave away a 1st round pic to get James Johnson and get only a conditional 2nd round pic when they trade him away

 

[Dawgger]

James Johnson Made just over $1,800,000.00 last year. IMHO That does not clear up enough cap space to justify a trade for a second rounder.
If they want to clear up cap space get rid of Kleiza. He spends more time on IR than he does playing and he is paid over $4,000,000.00

 

[frankcastle]

Anyone know where guyroch is? He used to post on terb.

At the beginning of the 2011-12 season, guyroach decided to leave terb. Thus someone else will have to start the season thread.

 

[frankcastle]

I didn't see much of james johnson's play but he seemed okay.

There was another terbite who was quite high on him. Forget who it was.

A second round pick is not exactly exciting.

But I guess it can't all be block busters and maybe that 2nd round pick eventually gets packaged for something bigger down the line.

 

[frankcastle]

BTW how would you guys rate the talent of the 2nd round. What is the value of that pick? I mean even in the top 10 you get busts. I don't follow enough to know if 2nd round has much quality

 

[Bargnani_]

James Johnson Made just over $1,800,000.00 last year. IMHO That does not clear up enough cap space to justify a trade for a second rounder. If they want to clear up cap space get rid of Kleiza. He spends more time on IR than he does playing and he is paid over $4,000,000.00

They are clearing 2.8 million dollars . This transaction has something to do with his attitude which I have read and the fact they need cap space cause of a transaction they are trying to do ( getting rid of Jose Calderon ) .

As for getting rid of Kleiza ( he had a injury those things happen ... He doesn't have a history of being on the I.R ) maybe Bryan wanted to do what you wanted but their were no takers for 4.6 million dollars for a GM who didn't want to take salary back .

 

[Bargnani_]

BTW how would you guys rate the talent of the 2nd round. What is the value of that pick? I mean even in the top 10 you get busts. I don't follow enough to know if 2nd round has much quality

Frankcastle I think when transactions like this occur it's more of a team taking 2.8 million dollars off another team and to make the salary's match a draft pic has to be put in the trade ( cause Raps taking no player or salary back ) . Heck the draft pic year isn't even determined which makes this pic even more obsecure . I will never understand this part of the NBA ? ie When Nash is traded to Lakers and the salary is 27 million ( 3 yrs ) and to make trade match a couple of draft pics are exchanged .

 

[frankcastle]

Frankcastle I think when transactions like this occur it's more of a team taking 2.8 million dollars off another team and to make the salary's match a draft pic has to be put in the trade ( cause Raps taking no player or salary back ) . Heck the draft pic year isn't even determined which makes this pic even more obsecure . I will never understand this part of the NBA ? ie When Nash is traded to Lakers and the salary is 27 million ( 3 yrs ) and to make trade match a couple of draft pics are exchanged .

How much is the pick worth in an exchange?

 

[Bargnani_]

How much is the pick worth in an exchange?

Who knows eh ? Chris Bosh did a sign and trade with the Heat when he signed and the Raps got the same amount of draft pics as the Suns got when they got rid of Nash but one salary is in the high teens and another is 9 million . The Mavs took Lamar Odom's 17 million contract last summer and gave up a 1st round pic . I repeat who knows how eh ?

 

[frankcastle]

Who knows eh ? Chris Bosh did a sign and trade with the Heat when he signed and the Raps got the same amount of draft pics as the Suns got when they got rid of Nash but one salary is in the high teens and another is 9 million . The Mavs took Lamar Odom's 17 million contract last summer and gave up a 1st round pic .

Well that's clear as mud

 

[Dawgger]

Well one of the casualities of Landry's signing is ... The Toronto Raptors, in a deal designed to create some additional salary-cap space, have agreed to trade forward James Johnson to the Sacramento Kings for a future second-round pick, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.

They are clearing 2.8 million dollars . This transaction has something to do with his attitude which I have read and the fact they need cap space cause of a transaction they are trying to do ( getting rid of Jose Calderon ) .

Attiude problem, then it makes sense. He didn't play much in Chicago, came here and looked green but loved the effort, then last year was hot and cold. If he has an attitude he is a problem and get rid of him.
To me trading him because of attitude makes more sense than clearing 2 million in cap space.