I always enjoy a witty remark, and I can tell you that post makes that lady much more attractive to me.
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This is clearly coming from a man who is unable to put himself in someones shoe's to see the other point of view. It amazes me how people get caught up in their own bubble of infinite wisdom. Try posting an online ad in the casual encounters section of cl as a female and see the BS the girls go through. It really is an eye opener.
I don't understand the OP. Does he not realize that this is common practice EVERYWHERE, if he can afford an hour with an SP, he can afford a sim card if he plans on doing this frequently. How he doesn't understand that the girls in the industry get 100x more harassment posting their numbers than anyone else because one bloke was dissatisfied or rejected is beyond me. YMMV is where all the hate they get is coming from since everyone gets a different experience.
Be careful. A second "secret" cell phone can also be a liability if your wife finds it. She will automatically assume that you are having an affair. If you're using it to call your provider when you arrive, then you need to have it in your car.
Speaking of phones, here is a problem I encountered when I was young and foolish. This agency had a phoneguy who spoke English with an extremely heavy E.I. or W.I. accent. Could barely understand him. Worse when I was in a noisy hotel lobby trying to make out what room number he was saying. So, I asked him to text the room number to me and he said "we don't text". Of course, I went to the wrong room, a hairy guy opened the door and I asked "is Lola was here?".
I think it's good for a SP/client to have some chat over a span of time prior to meeting. Preferably starting off with email. Pretty much everyone these days have an email account and check it on a daily basis. Go through introductions, talking about each others interests, etc. If the SP service is companionship, perhaps they should meet up in a public place first like a coffee shop. A true attacker will not spend that much time trying to engage in long talks and really trying to explain themselves. Of course there is no 100% accuracy, and there is always smart attackers/hackers out there. You want to do the best you can to eliminate the common attacks.
Just like a lie-detector test can tell if people are talking the truth.
As far as the phone goes, perhaps you could send a voice clip as an email attachment. Assuming the SP has a bit of tech savvy to know how to scan for viruses, and then on the day you pickup a block #, you can recognize the voice is correct or not. It's a little bit more advance, but perhaps could work to perfection.
Just like a lie-detector test can tell if people are talking the truth.
As far as the phone goes, perhaps you could send a voice clip as an email attachment. Assuming the SP has a bit of tech savvy to know how to scan for viruses, and then on the day you pickup a block #, you can recognize the voice is correct or not. It's a little bit more advance, but perhaps could work to perfection.
Its so funny, another person trying to fix something that isn't broken. If you are uncomfortable with the current situation, then don't hobby.
ya, I understand this is way more advance and complex. The idea is, the more complex it is, the less likely an attacker would use.
But hey, just my 2 cents. Security is a big thing in this world. Even your cell phone gets hacked these days. Why do you think cell phones have remote wipe capabilities? You think a password on a phone is good enough to prevent a real attacker/hacker from stealing your information. Think again!
Anyways, don't get me wrong. I am a good guy. But I study a bit of these things in my working field, so I know about them.
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Like I said, its just a safe method SP can use if they are really concern about security. I myself too is unlikely to use this method.
I think some SP's have other alternative of background checks that already eliminates majority of potential clients. Some clients won't do that much just for the sake of seeing the SP.
But I think you get my point right?
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I second this comment, if the SP is trying to limit her market base then she is successive in her comments. I might suggest from a layman's point of view she doesn't know a first thing about how to run or market her business because if she did she would know if you don't agree with the market you ignore the market's view but you NEVER NEVER come out against it because you never what to eliminate market share with non constructive negative views. But what do I know!
she simply countered the arrogant paternalistic crap that the op offered as sage advice with a subtle humourous and measured rebuke.....and now you try and threaten her business? Assholes like you she does not need for clients. Ever hear of free speech? Well , that was a very mild example, Mr. Sensitive.
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She simply countered? She was the fourth SP to reply to the OP.. three before her replied "properly" and explained their point of view as to why they don't accept private calls. Arrogant paternalistic crap?? Are you serious? He ended his post with "just my two cents, best of luck to you all". It's pretty clear his intentions weren't bad/piss any one off. He SUGGESTED they accept private calls.. to which 3 SP replied why they don't accept calls without ridiculing him. For e record I have no idea who the OP is and I disagree with his suggestion 100%... but I just see no need for the whitty remarks.
Didn't expect my initial comment to hit such a nerve.
Unlike most industries (and the SP industry is unlike most industries), SP's and agency owners do not normally welcome feedback from their clients. (Andy "God Bless" Mirage was an exception.) In fact, some ladies and agency owners bluntly say "don't tell me how to run my business".
my idea was just an initiative step if SP was to accept private calls. It is more complex, so I can't say everyone wants to go through it.
Well, it's nice to see someone who listens and appreciates the time that went into the helpful advice. Knowing ones limitations is very important and being a female has always been a distinct disadvantage in so many ways.
First off I know I’m putting the target on me from the regulars because I am new on this board but I’m not new to hobbying.
Interesting thread and will try to keep this as succinctly as possible and bullet form for those who don’t like to read wall of texts. While the inital post raised questions about privacy and blocked phone numbers, its pretty obvious there are strong views and philosophies about this industry and how it should be run.
My question for the OPs is you can eat at the keg or you can eat at Morton’s. Do you go and complain to the manager of Morton’s that you can pay 40% less for a steak and it comes with sides (as opposed to ordering them separately) at the Keg and expect Morton’s to do the same? I know the counter argument is price matching by certain retail establishments, I just want to point out there are examples of the other side.
Certain drinking/eating establishments have policies around such things as dress code for an example. I’m not going to go to a place if I’m not dressed appropriately or raise a stink and post on-line about how I’m in running shoes and shorts and I cannot get into the new hot spot when a Firkin lets me in just fine with however I’m dressed. Similarly if I know the requirements/polcies an SP is requesting/has up front (such as no blocked phone numbers) and it does not work for me I move on.
Background checks in the service industry (similar to spirit of this post ie knowing who you are dealing with) are not new and are standard operating procedure in some. While this might not be the case for certain services, I’m thinking auto mechanics and contractors, certain ambulance chasing lawyers there is precedent for this. I’ve worked at an international accounting firms (i.e. the big four) and it is standard practice to do background checks on Board Members and C suite execs (CEO, CFO, and COO), before accepting them as a client. Bottom line is the customer dollar is not always the end all and be all as I’ve seen the firm I worked at turn down customers and clients.
While it is fair to critique certain aspects of the “business”, counter points raised and policies used by SPs and agencies are not unheard of or not new.
You don’t like the rules/regulations etc., there are ample choices both up market and down market and I’m sure there are enough SPs you will find to your liking. As an example, I’ve engaged law firms, accounting firms and investment bankers in my career, if I did not like what one had to offer or provide I used another. Why should it be any different in this industry/business?
Oh and I know some of the regulars on here are going to take shots calling me a white knight and newbie or whatever. Others may critique my business acumen, but I’ve been involved in seed fiancings (i.e. more entrepreneurial), taken companies public, raised IPO financings and various jurisdictions, so while you may disagree PM me your qualifications and we can have a “see whose bigger contest” and debate business.
In any event feel free to return serve and critique away.
Interesting thread and will try to keep this as succinctly as possible and bullet form for those who don’t like to read wall of texts. While the inital post raised questions about privacy and blocked phone numbers, its pretty obvious there are strong views and philosophies about this industry and how it should be run.
My question for the OPs is you can eat at the keg or you can eat at Morton’s. Do you go and complain to the manager of Morton’s that you can pay 40% less for a steak and it comes with sides (as opposed to ordering them separately) at the Keg and expect Morton’s to do the same? I know the counter argument is price matching by certain retail establishments, I just want to point out there are examples of the other side.
Certain drinking/eating establishments have policies around such things as dress code for an example. I’m not going to go to a place if I’m not dressed appropriately or raise a stink and post on-line about how I’m in running shoes and shorts and I cannot get into the new hot spot when a Firkin lets me in just fine with however I’m dressed. Similarly if I know the requirements/polcies an SP is requesting/has up front (such as no blocked phone numbers) and it does not work for me I move on.
Background checks in the service industry (similar to spirit of this post ie knowing who you are dealing with) are not new and are standard operating procedure in some. While this might not be the case for certain services, I’m thinking auto mechanics and contractors, certain ambulance chasing lawyers there is precedent for this. I’ve worked at an international accounting firms (i.e. the big four) and it is standard practice to do background checks on Board Members and C suite execs (CEO, CFO, and COO), before accepting them as a client. Bottom line is the customer dollar is not always the end all and be all as I’ve seen the firm I worked at turn down customers and clients.
While it is fair to critique certain aspects of the “business”, counter points raised and policies used by SPs and agencies are not unheard of or not new.
You don’t like the rules/regulations etc., there are ample choices both up market and down market and I’m sure there are enough SPs you will find to your liking. As an example, I’ve engaged law firms, accounting firms and investment bankers in my career, if I did not like what one had to offer or provide I used another. Why should it be any different in this industry/business?
Oh and I know some of the regulars on here are going to take shots calling me a white knight and newbie or whatever. Others may critique my business acumen, but I’ve been involved in seed fiancings (i.e. more entrepreneurial), taken companies public, raised IPO financings and various jurisdictions, so while you may disagree PM me your qualifications and we can have a “see whose bigger contest” and debate business.
In any event feel free to return serve and critique away.
Qualifications didn't include proof reading? I'll hold off the bow for later.
