A little rant about SP tactics / A warning to "Johns"
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THats an interesting question? Yet wouldnt it be cheaper to pay in cash? Also what about for tax purproses as I don't think this would be ideal for an SP.
ps. Although its unattractive, its always good to show and count the money to her before exploring every inch of her body.
Of course, be respectful of your SPs.Yes, it's about presentation and this is why SPs prefer older gents to guys like me at the outset. First, older gents are bigger spenders (ie. longer sessions + tips), they're bound by courteous conduct (putting payment in an envelop with a box of chocolates and flowers, rather than pulling out a wad and slapping it on the table), and they're easier to please because they're grateful just to have the company of a hottie that's half the age of their wives.
It all evens out with a client like me in the end though, because an SP doesn't have to play the gfe role with me. It's strictly physical, no mind games and fake personas needed. She doesn't have to worry about me falling in love with her.
It all evens out with a client like me in the end though, because an SP doesn't have to play the gfe role with me. It's strictly physical, no mind games and fake personas needed. She doesn't have to worry about me falling in love with her.
You obviously enrolled in the same Special education institutes as the OP. You simpletons are concerned with my posts about his grammar (not spelling he used the wrong words). the fact remains in my first 2 replies. HE NEVER COUNTED THE MONEY ALL AT ONCE. this guy is accusing an SP that is a part of this community of stealing which may be true but HE NEVER COUNTED THE MONEY ALL AT ONCE.
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Sounds good. Like the other poster said, what's $30, especially to someone making $250 an hour or is it 5/6 of an hour.
In my business we always the customer is always right. It seems on TERB, the customer is always wrong.
I don't like the acceptance or encouragement of this either as clients will almost always show up with less and try to barter on the spot for a discount or simply hope the SP does not count the money before he leaves.
Much like those guys wearing expensive clothes with the latest expensive gadgets like iphones, Beats headphones etc that hop on the TTC begging for a free ride without even offering up a partial fare.
Maybe the guy already tried to haggle with the SP on the phone unsuccessfully. He figures he'd be more successful by agreeing to the full amount to get a face to face meeting where he'll either put the SP on the spot, or convince her via his good looks and charm. Even then, she can still refuse so time wasted and possible confrontation as well as negative revenge reviews.
If you can't afford an SPs asking price, don't waste time and take up a spot a client able to afford could have had.
As I mentioned on another thread about people responding to reviews.....grow a pair.
Hey, you really should read before you open your mouth and at least think. Read post #15 of this thread.
And let's just say I did not even precount the whole amount. I'll give you another simple example. Let's say you withdrew 5 $20 bills and you counted it and put it in the envelope and when you got home you put in 1 $50 bill. Even without counting the whole amount together, how much do you think you will have?
I have since moved on then from accusing somebody of stealing. And if you read again post # 105 of this thread, it is also possible that she honestly miscounted since she was hungry. It is also possible that 2 of the $20 bills got stuck into 2 other bills.
The point of me making this thread is to inform other guys how to give their donation now. Do you continue giving it by envelope or do you lay it down and count together. That is it!! Now, if you still don't get it, go ahead reply and reply and I will refute and refute you until you get it.
Or you can continue arguing by pointing out my wrong grammar and spelling?
Same as to all you of you asking me for the SP's name in PM. I cannot give you her name because it just isn't fair. It is up to you how you are going to handle the donation part and make your own adjustment.
I did read. You dont think before making vague, useless threads. look how clear cut thunderballs story is compared to yours. Also you obviously don't count money when it counts!
the fact is your OP was vague to say the least (hof really pointed out what a clusterfuck it is) and you jumped down the throats of people simply trying to get clarification (matroxx). you claim you're being a gentleman by not identifying the sp but instead you decide to throw every SP in that area under the bus by giving her approximate location in where she works. stay classy lurker.
post 15 just confirms you count money for a living which is irrelevant. You counting money for a living ≠ you counted the money right or at all on this occasion. or did you mean a different post?
150. now if i was going see an girl and her rate was 150 i would discard the envelope and count all the money before seeing her especially if i had 10 minutes to waste waiting like you did. It's amazing to me that you would fail to do that since it's your profession.
I think you need to re read the flow of this thread. i made one simple reply to someone regarding the use of the word 'quite'. after a reply back I defined the word in the 1st half of my next post and moved on. yet you keep bringing it up. I never commented on your spelling.
the fact is your OP was vague to say the least (hof really pointed out what a clusterfuck it is) and you jumped down the throats of people simply trying to get clarification (matroxx). you claim you're being a gentleman by not identifying the sp but instead you decide to throw every SP in that area under the bus by giving her approximate location in where she works. stay classy lurker.
you finally have done something right in this thread for once.
A few observatioms:
Op may or may not have handed the correct payment to the SP. He's quite sure, but not 100% sure. Before she claimed it was less than the agreed upon amount, he was 100% sure it was all there.
The SP may or may not have incorrectly counted the money, and she may or may not have intentionally tried to scam an extra $40
These are facts we will never know.
What we do know is that some of the members who have read this thread may be a little more aware and be less timid in the future regarding the counting of the funds before jumping in the shower. Since the SP wasn't named, it shouldn't affect her either way and anyone guessing who it is should not let this thread affect their decision.
The ongoing spelling and grammar correcting and fighting will go on forever on all the forums. That is just an unavoidable fact on TERB!
Op may or may not have handed the correct payment to the SP. He's quite sure, but not 100% sure. Before she claimed it was less than the agreed upon amount, he was 100% sure it was all there.
The SP may or may not have incorrectly counted the money, and she may or may not have intentionally tried to scam an extra $40
These are facts we will never know.
What we do know is that some of the members who have read this thread may be a little more aware and be less timid in the future regarding the counting of the funds before jumping in the shower. Since the SP wasn't named, it shouldn't affect her either way and anyone guessing who it is should not let this thread affect their decision.
The ongoing spelling and grammar correcting and fighting will go on forever on all the forums. That is just an unavoidable fact on TERB!
i was just thinking something similar, video tape yourself putting money into an envelop seal it and write the word thank you across envelop to show that it wasn't opened. then you can email it to the sp or replay later and show when the video was created incase she questions its authenticity...
Babypowder.. man.. are you for real???
On my example, how did you come up with the $150 amount? You didn't count the whole amount together?? Like what happened to me, I clearly said I am 100% sure I got $200 from my bank no fucking doubt about it. The other $60 that I put in that envelope, I used the term "quite sure" because I do leave a room for error. It is so easy to put in 3 $20 bills on it but I will stop short in calling that SP a thief. I mean it was 1 a.m. in the morning when I assembled that money. I could have been tired or whatever but the fact is that I count money for a living under strenuous conditions still makes me "quite sure" I put 3 $20 in there. If it is not any more clearer to you, I am saying I am 99.99% sure I put in $260 in that envelope. But again and again I will say I always leave room for error.
It is now post #13 which I said I counted the whole amount together. The $200 from the bank and the $60 from my wallet. Somebody deleted 2 posts in this thread.
And you really trust a user like HOF to say who the clusterfuck is? He has probably posted here 10x in this thread and yet no one replied to his points. You know why? It's safe to bet people have put him on ignore a long time ago. I mean come on man, look at his posts it reeks of insecurity that's why I manage to not reply to his personal attacks on me. I like rational arguing but when it comes down to being childish, I will not reply.
Then, you claim this is a useless thread. You can read again and count how many users have expressed their thanks for this reminder. It has even spawned another thread on how to deal with the transaction process now. I leave it up to the private parties on how to handle their donation in their own way but clearly people would be more aware that this thing that happened to me can happen to them. Not only that, people have PM'ed expressing the usefulness of this thread.
And, you are suggesting that I was supposed to count that $260 from that 10 minutes that I was waiting for the SP? Are you serious? Like I said, I already counted the night before, separated the $260 from my other cash. Put that clearly in the envelope, put it in my jacket and zipped it up air tight. My path to the SP's place was pretty straightforward which was from my place to her place. I did not making any stopover whatsoever nor did I open that pocket again until I handed it to her. That $260 in that envelope would remain the same regardless if it was 3 hours, 10 days, or a year. If nobody touches it and in my case NOBODY touched it, I am "quite sure" it was $260 that I handed to her.
And even though I made a reference to her location, do you know how many SP's work in downtown? There's gotta be hundreds of them and the KPMG and the TD tower are some of the highest towers in DT and is basically visible from anywhere in that area. I did not say X convenience store was located near her incall, that would have basically pinpointed her out. And you know, these SP's move all the time. They can work at the Delta today and the Marriot next week, and then the Sheraton the week after that. Those hotels all have mirrors on them and those 2 buildings are clearly visible from any of those areas. Furthermore, if you suspect that she was the SP I am talking about and you wanted to see her, go ahead. Her service was never the question. All you have to do is make some adjustments regarding the donation part and to clearly agree on the start and end time of the date. Pretty simple. If you have any more doubts let me answer them.
I don't understand why you are so anal about this thread. You weren't there and I tried to give a fair and balance account on what happened. I did not only put here my version but also offered what could have happened from the girls' point of view. I know she could not come here and post what happened. That would cost her thousands of dollars in business. It's not even necessary to establish her guilt is she is indeed guilty, people would just book other SP's given the supply in the market right now.
On my example, how did you come up with the $150 amount? You didn't count the whole amount together?? Like what happened to me, I clearly said I am 100% sure I got $200 from my bank no fucking doubt about it. The other $60 that I put in that envelope, I used the term "quite sure" because I do leave a room for error. It is so easy to put in 3 $20 bills on it but I will stop short in calling that SP a thief. I mean it was 1 a.m. in the morning when I assembled that money. I could have been tired or whatever but the fact is that I count money for a living under strenuous conditions still makes me "quite sure" I put 3 $20 in there. If it is not any more clearer to you, I am saying I am 99.99% sure I put in $260 in that envelope. But again and again I will say I always leave room for error.
It is now post #13 which I said I counted the whole amount together. The $200 from the bank and the $60 from my wallet. Somebody deleted 2 posts in this thread.
And you really trust a user like HOF to say who the clusterfuck is? He has probably posted here 10x in this thread and yet no one replied to his points. You know why? It's safe to bet people have put him on ignore a long time ago. I mean come on man, look at his posts it reeks of insecurity that's why I manage to not reply to his personal attacks on me. I like rational arguing but when it comes down to being childish, I will not reply.
Then, you claim this is a useless thread. You can read again and count how many users have expressed their thanks for this reminder. It has even spawned another thread on how to deal with the transaction process now. I leave it up to the private parties on how to handle their donation in their own way but clearly people would be more aware that this thing that happened to me can happen to them. Not only that, people have PM'ed expressing the usefulness of this thread.
And, you are suggesting that I was supposed to count that $260 from that 10 minutes that I was waiting for the SP? Are you serious? Like I said, I already counted the night before, separated the $260 from my other cash. Put that clearly in the envelope, put it in my jacket and zipped it up air tight. My path to the SP's place was pretty straightforward which was from my place to her place. I did not making any stopover whatsoever nor did I open that pocket again until I handed it to her. That $260 in that envelope would remain the same regardless if it was 3 hours, 10 days, or a year. If nobody touches it and in my case NOBODY touched it, I am "quite sure" it was $260 that I handed to her.
And even though I made a reference to her location, do you know how many SP's work in downtown? There's gotta be hundreds of them and the KPMG and the TD tower are some of the highest towers in DT and is basically visible from anywhere in that area. I did not say X convenience store was located near her incall, that would have basically pinpointed her out. And you know, these SP's move all the time. They can work at the Delta today and the Marriot next week, and then the Sheraton the week after that. Those hotels all have mirrors on them and those 2 buildings are clearly visible from any of those areas. Furthermore, if you suspect that she was the SP I am talking about and you wanted to see her, go ahead. Her service was never the question. All you have to do is make some adjustments regarding the donation part and to clearly agree on the start and end time of the date. Pretty simple. If you have any more doubts let me answer them.
I don't understand why you are so anal about this thread. You weren't there and I tried to give a fair and balance account on what happened. I did not only put here my version but also offered what could have happened from the girls' point of view. I know she could not come here and post what happened. That would cost her thousands of dollars in business. It's not even necessary to establish her guilt is she is indeed guilty, people would just book other SP's given the supply in the market right now.
Maybe she can't count. Im so used to twenty's now i can just feel the guesstimate on how much i got. If things are light i can tell right away. But that is some pretty shady tactics. I dont understand why ppl do stuff like that. 40 bucks isnt worth losing a repeat customer.
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