Like the punchline to that old joke. We've already established that you're a hooker. We're just negotiating the price now.
How many of you GAVE UP on dating figuring your just too undesirable to women?
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Be confident but realistic. Don't only punch above your weight
If a girl rejects you, don't take it to mean all women are bitches. They're not, and thinking that makes you a douche
Don't think that because a civilian girl won't do Greek or won't let you CIM, she's a bitch or sexually repressed. Realize that the entire SP thing is a fantasy, and only that. Not a substitute for relationships or social interaction. Sex is a very important part, but it is only one part. Not every girl wants to fuck 24/7. I guarantee, that at least half the guys on here who are married or in a relationship, and who say that sex (or lack of it) is the biggest reason they hobby, are lying either to themselves or to us. Sex may be a reason, but there's deeper issues with their relationship that explains why they hobby
Getting rejected is not the end of the world. Everyone gets rejected
Know your strengths, work on your weaknesses.
Bars/clubs are not the only, best or even good places to meet women. Know that only a select proportion of guys can pull this off, and even then they get rejected far more than they succeed.
As fuji says, getting yourself out there and involved with as many social groups and clubs as possible is a great way to meet people. After college/university, the sheer number of people you meet goes way down, and your social circles drops off. Especially when your friends get into marriages and start having kids, your social circle can shrink. You need to widen it.
Don't listen to bitter people on here spouting statistics about fucking suicide rates in Australia or genetic theory, or how women only want 6'1 white guys with 200k a year income. There's someone for everyone out there, I truly believe, and if you haven't found it, it's because you haven't put yourself in a position to find them.
Don't be desperate. Be comfortable with your life. As fuji says, if you work on your weaknesses (your gut, your wardrobe), you'll feel better about yourself. This will translate.
View the hobby as something completely separate from your social and dating life. There's no crossover. The only possible advantage is that you might be a little comfortable with sex. Other than that, there's no resemblance between the two. If you really need to scratch the itch, then do it by all means, but try and increase the times you take the 250 and invest in taking a class or a new piece of wardrobe or something else other than hobbying.
If you truly are extremely socially awkward, or have some kind of disorder, do not ask a SP for help. They genuinely may try and help, but remember they're being paid, and it's in their best interests professionally, and even from a safety point of view , to be as gentle as possible and tell you only what you want to hear. This can lead to disastrous consequences in the real world. SPs, at least good SPs, do become pretty good therapists in their own way, but they're not trained. This seems silly, but if you truly have no else to talk to, and a severe personality disorder, looking for a SP to help you can easily fuck you up worse than you were before. A therapist is the best bet. I truly think many guys would do themselves, and their families and friends, not to mention the SPs they see, a better service by investing hobbying money into therapy. Therapy isn't a cure-all obviously, but it can help tremendously.
Life is far too short to spend it bitter. Bitterness eats away and like Yoda says, can lead to the dark side. Don't be bitter
If a girl rejects you, don't take it to mean all women are bitches. They're not, and thinking that makes you a douche
Don't think that because a civilian girl won't do Greek or won't let you CIM, she's a bitch or sexually repressed. Realize that the entire SP thing is a fantasy, and only that. Not a substitute for relationships or social interaction. Sex is a very important part, but it is only one part. Not every girl wants to fuck 24/7. I guarantee, that at least half the guys on here who are married or in a relationship, and who say that sex (or lack of it) is the biggest reason they hobby, are lying either to themselves or to us. Sex may be a reason, but there's deeper issues with their relationship that explains why they hobby
Getting rejected is not the end of the world. Everyone gets rejected
Know your strengths, work on your weaknesses.
Bars/clubs are not the only, best or even good places to meet women. Know that only a select proportion of guys can pull this off, and even then they get rejected far more than they succeed.
As fuji says, getting yourself out there and involved with as many social groups and clubs as possible is a great way to meet people. After college/university, the sheer number of people you meet goes way down, and your social circles drops off. Especially when your friends get into marriages and start having kids, your social circle can shrink. You need to widen it.
Don't listen to bitter people on here spouting statistics about fucking suicide rates in Australia or genetic theory, or how women only want 6'1 white guys with 200k a year income. There's someone for everyone out there, I truly believe, and if you haven't found it, it's because you haven't put yourself in a position to find them.
Don't be desperate. Be comfortable with your life. As fuji says, if you work on your weaknesses (your gut, your wardrobe), you'll feel better about yourself. This will translate.
View the hobby as something completely separate from your social and dating life. There's no crossover. The only possible advantage is that you might be a little comfortable with sex. Other than that, there's no resemblance between the two. If you really need to scratch the itch, then do it by all means, but try and increase the times you take the 250 and invest in taking a class or a new piece of wardrobe or something else other than hobbying.
If you truly are extremely socially awkward, or have some kind of disorder, do not ask a SP for help. They genuinely may try and help, but remember they're being paid, and it's in their best interests professionally, and even from a safety point of view , to be as gentle as possible and tell you only what you want to hear. This can lead to disastrous consequences in the real world. SPs, at least good SPs, do become pretty good therapists in their own way, but they're not trained. This seems silly, but if you truly have no else to talk to, and a severe personality disorder, looking for a SP to help you can easily fuck you up worse than you were before. A therapist is the best bet. I truly think many guys would do themselves, and their families and friends, not to mention the SPs they see, a better service by investing hobbying money into therapy. Therapy isn't a cure-all obviously, but it can help tremendously.
Life is far too short to spend it bitter. Bitterness eats away and like Yoda says, can lead to the dark side. Don't be bitter
nice addition mur dont think the dangers or provisions about sps, the hobby and civi girls had been mentioned.
My point is that the even the ugliest guy has more chance to get a date than the ugliest girl. I.e. through personality, wealth or any other attribute going for them.
I think one of the reasons this show has attracted so much attention is that it's hit a market segment that up until now was scorned or best left in the closet. Turns out there are so many guys including myself who can relate to it, before and now in my life. And I know it might seem impossible and fiction to a lot but there are tons of girls out there who find these guys good boyfriend material. All those girls who you've gone after and were rejected due to lower than their standard income level, intelligence or looks were not right for you to begin with and will come crashing back to reality soon enough ... by then you would have moved on and enjoying life with your significant other.
Yup I completely agree, I hobby for fun and explore my fantasies before getting 'too old' to enjoy more energetic stuff and before I turned my 'life around' and realized that I had wasted a good deal of it like a lot of guys on here. I just want to tell them to not make the same mistakes as me and go out there, enjoy life which includes winning and losing some battles. Doing this to fill an emotional hole or desire for closeness in one's life is the wrong thing to do. Keep both lives separate and enjoy.
blackrock13, you are such a stud. With the number of post that you have, you must have girls crawling all over you. How does a man who have "them pay your way" have so many posts? Where do you find the time? I need some input from a ladies man such as yourself.
Aside from the fact that nowhere in that last post did I say I was referring to my having that skill, it's proof you don't pay attention, as the point was made way back in another thread that it's only happened a few times when I was single, at which time other members claimed the same, making it not an isolated case for certain people. That it doesn't happen to you is quite understandable.
PUA is basically self-help that relates only to male/female interaction of a sexual nature. It includes meeting people through social circles, online dating, activities, etc. It's not just about picking up random women in clubs for hookups. In fact, that's just a tiny sliver of what it's all about.
In my youth I had what I would guess is an average number of GFs. I was married for 3 decades to a wonderful women, when she died of bone cancer I was terrified of getting involved with someone and being hurt by loosing them. I decided seeing SPs would be a safe alternative.
Wrong. Turns out it is easy to get involved with SPs. They are just as dangerous emotionally as any woman. I met and got to know some wonderful women. And now aa few years later, and here I am married again.
Did I learn anything? Yes, you can find lovers and potential wives anywhere. The hard part is to be open with them and still keep your head screwed on straight and know when it may, or may not, be a good fit.
Advice: learn the difference between arrogance and confidence. Never try to fake confidence. You just look like a jerk.
Wrong. Turns out it is easy to get involved with SPs. They are just as dangerous emotionally as any woman. I met and got to know some wonderful women. And now aa few years later, and here I am married again.
Did I learn anything? Yes, you can find lovers and potential wives anywhere. The hard part is to be open with them and still keep your head screwed on straight and know when it may, or may not, be a good fit.
Advice: learn the difference between arrogance and confidence. Never try to fake confidence. You just look like a jerk.
Out of curiousity how old is your second wife and how did you guys meet?
Reason I ask is that some of these guys are saying that they are 30 or 40 and it's over and hopeless for them. You are probably in your 50s to 60s based on your story.
Also curious because some of these guys have hopes of a young hottie. Maybe you went that route..... and they need to hear that. Or maybe you went with an older woman in her 30s to 50s and they need to hear that too.
Just keep in mind I NEVER said it is impossible to find someone that would be attracted to me. Nor I am sure the other guys think the same of themselves. JUST that the odds are so remote that one loses interest in the effort. I am the same way with lottories. Never play since odds so remote & yet people win all the time. I am just not motivated with such poor odds. As I said before, I think once your 30 you have a sense of what your odds are, what general level of attractiveness you have to women. I was just curious to see how many here are in that position & what it is about them that makes them so unattractive. Indeed some can be encouraged to change those factors & improve their odds.
Wife # 1 was my age. I am now 59
Wife # 2 is mid twenties. Our meeting was sort of odd. She was just about to start as an SP and needed help with something. She Emailed me. We emailed back and forth a bit. I liked her. She told me she was going to dive in during spring break. I booked her. We met. I liked her a lot. I booked her a lot. She reached her target for $ and quit. We saw each other a lot more. She moved in for a few months. I fell for her, and proposed. She had a few mandatory conditions before she would agree. I met those. We got married.
Guys, don't despair.
I have been watching Seinfeld reruns on CITY TV and those losers get civilian dates all the time. (Of course, they can't afford escorts so they are stuck with civilians.) Last night, Seinfeld picked up a woman in an auto accident and within 15 minutes they were playing tonque(sp) hockey.
Then George engaged in wambo minki with Robin (David's wife). Yes, short, balding, fat, stinky personality and unemployed George. How does George do it? As the lady said, he has CONFIDENCE. You don't need personality, charm, intelligence, good looks or money, all you need is CONFIDENCE.
I have been watching Seinfeld reruns on CITY TV and those losers get civilian dates all the time. (Of course, they can't afford escorts so they are stuck with civilians.) Last night, Seinfeld picked up a woman in an auto accident and within 15 minutes they were playing tonque(sp) hockey.
Then George engaged in wambo minki with Robin (David's wife). Yes, short, balding, fat, stinky personality and unemployed George. How does George do it? As the lady said, he has CONFIDENCE. You don't need personality, charm, intelligence, good looks or money, all you need is CONFIDENCE.
think those guys would prefer insights that don t stem from fiction.
i get the feeling that there was already a similar joke already.........funnier the first time
granted easy to miss in all these posts
So all we need is women paid to pretend to like us and date us? We do that now, and get sex as well !
We just do not have writers to provide our dialogue
LMFAO.
If you believe a turd like him leaves his basement apartment I have shares for a bridge in...................
A wise man (can't remember who, exactly) said "Never, never, never, NEVER give up.
Another wrote: "just walk on mister - and don't you worrry about a dogone thing at all, because there's some woman, somwhere, who'll take you mister Raggety clothes (or whatever) and all!!"
Another wrote: "just walk on mister - and don't you worrry about a dogone thing at all, because there's some woman, somwhere, who'll take you mister Raggety clothes (or whatever) and all!!"
