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wawa

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I was stopped and given a ticket for doing 50 kph in a 40 kph zone in Etobicoke 2 years ago!!! I couldn't believe that I was charged for that "speeding".
 

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Sometimes, it's not only about the speeding, but if you're weaving in and out of traffic even at lower speeds, you're making yourself a target to the cops.

Another thing to remember is the end of month blitzes, back to school blitzes, etc. You're more likely to be a target at these times.

Lastly, there's geography to think about. Anywhere near a school or perpetual speed traps (because of resident's complaints), you are more likely to get caught.

In summary, don't stick out (go with the flow), be mindful of the day of the month, and where you're driving.
 

whitewaterguy

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Even if your going only a few clicks over the limit, they can pull you over of course, and their reasons for doing so might have nothing to do with the fact that your speeding. they might have other curiosities about you or your vehicle which they may wish to pursue.
 

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I was hoping officer blackrock would give us the inside scoop on speed infractions. Where is he when we need him?
 

rhuarc29

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The other thing is that if you go barreling by a cop at 130, and you see him, make sure you hit the brakes to give him "respect". Cops I know have said that if they see the brake lights come on and if they have clocked you at 130 they are more liable to let you go if they see the tail lights because you have acknowledged their authority by hitting the brakes.
Interesting. I've always heard it was the other way around: that if cops see you braking, it's because you've seen them and are trying to "deceive" them about the real speed you've been going. Usually when I see a cop, I just coast until I'm past him. Less noticeable.

But the whole ego-boosting "respect my authority" thing does ring a bell....
 

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Sometimes, it's not only about the speeding, but if you're weaving in and out of traffic even at lower speeds, you're making yourself a target to the cops.

Another thing to remember is the end of month blitzes, back to school blitzes, etc. You're more likely to be a target at these times.

Lastly, there's geography to think about. Anywhere near a school or perpetual speed traps (because of resident's complaints), you are more likely to get caught.

In summary, don't stick out (go with the flow), be mindful of the day of the month, and where you're driving.
+1

The fines for speeding jump up after 35Km/h over. Generally the highway traffic is moving at 120 – 140km/h outside the city, just don't be the only one on the road doing 140km/h.
 

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I was stopped and given a ticket for doing 50 kph in a 40 kph zone in Etobicoke 2 years ago!!! I couldn't believe that I was charged for that "speeding".
When I was in my 20's, ALL the speeding tickets I got were in 40 kph zones.
 

Adam_hadam

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Don't forget if its not a rental car your plates show you are from out of town. Yeah I seen sports cars with Ontario plates doing 130 and the police going the other way and keep on going. I thought shit if I went that fast in my car with no plate up front cause Michigan has no front license plate, they make a U turn for sure--but I'm freaken paranoid not just careful

Some Canadians just don't like us Yankees from the states, cops, terbbites, etc.
We got a speeding ticket on the New York Thruway doing 80 in a 65 zone. We were keping up with traffic in the left lane but the asshole trooper nailed us because we were at the back of the line. $170 fine + 3 points, see below.

btw for Ontario drivers, getting a traffic ticket in Michigan or New York is treated by your insurance as if the infraction happened here.
 

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We got a speeding ticket on the New York Thruway doing 80 in a 65 zone. We were keping up with traffic in the left lane but the asshole trooper nailed us because we were at the back of the line. $170 fine + 3 points, see below.

btw for Ontario drivers, getting a traffic ticket in Michigan or New York is treated by your insurance as if the infraction happened here.
The asshole in this story was the straggler at the back of the pack of speeders. If you didn't learn from Nature reruns that only the middle of the herd offers any safety, you should be thinking of the advantages of reading on a bus.

The cop was doing her job; you were breaking the law, and you weren't being even moderately thoughtful about it.
 

rhuarc29

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We got a speeding ticket on the New York Thruway doing 80 in a 65 zone. We were keping up with traffic in the left lane but the asshole trooper nailed us because we were at the back of the line. $170 fine + 3 points, see below.

btw for Ontario drivers, getting a traffic ticket in Michigan or New York is treated by your insurance as if the infraction happened here.
The asshole in this story was the straggler at the back of the pack of speeders. If you didn't learn from Nature reruns that only the middle of the herd offers any safety, you should be thinking of the advantages of reading on a bus.

The cop was doing her job; you were breaking the law, and you weren't being even moderately thoughtful about it.
I don't think any of them were assholes here. You can't blame others for exceeding the speed limit. If you exceed the speed limit, even if it's just to keep up with the flow of traffic, you are making a concious decision to break the law, and need to accept the responsibilities that go along with that. That's not to say you didn't get unlucky...but the cop was just doing his job.

The middle of the pack is safest, front is relatively safe, and back is only minimally safe. Still better than going it alone.
 

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So, what's the generally accepted fudge factor speeding in Canada? Is it different on the highways vs. local roads?

In the States, the usual rule is:
0-5 mph over the posted speed limit = Safe
5-10 mph over the posted speed limit = Usually safe, but you probably want to lay off the accelerator if you see a cop.
10-15 mph over the posted speed limit = You're pushing it, and you probably want to softly lay on the brake if you see a cop.

Any suggestions for Canada?
Don't know if you mean all of Canada or just Ontario. Provinces are different, policing is different, and traffic laws also. In Ontario it seems less than 20 k over and you are generally OK. Less than 15 over and there are no points assessed...normally.

RCMP police highways in from Manitoba west, and in some provinces in eastern Canada...and I wouldn't count on 20 k. Speed limits in the west are higher than Ontario generally...limited access freeway type highways are mostly 110 km limit, other highways 100, whereas Ontario it is 100, 90, 80 depending on the highway.
 

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If you want to drive slowly on the 407 get in the passing lane or the lane immediately to its right. It's 4 lanes for the most part but morons get in the 3rd lane and the passing lane only to cruise at 105-115 km/h. Drivers from Ontario have no idea what it means to keep right except to pass or slower traffic keep to the right. It seems often on the interstates some jerk will be puttering along in the passing lane only to turn out to have an Ontario plate upon closer inspection. It's possible to cruise along the 407 during rush hour going 140 km/h and not be bothered by the OPP as they will be busy pulling over people for having licence plates that are worn-out or otherwise not clear enough for the cameras along with truckers who don't have transponders. If you do it outside of rush hour the highway will be quiet and you will be caught.
 

rhuarc29

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If you want to drive slowly on the 407 get in the passing lane or the lane immediately to its right. It's 4 lanes for the most part but morons get in the 3rd lane and the passing lane only to cruise at 105-115 km/h. Drivers from Ontario have no idea what it means to keep right except to pass or slower traffic keep to the right. It seems often on the interstates some jerk will be puttering along in the passing lane only to turn out to have an Ontario plate upon closer inspection. It's possible to cruise along the 407 during rush hour going 140 km/h and not be bothered by the OPP as they will be busy pulling over people for having licence plates that are worn-out or otherwise not clear enough for the cameras along with truckers who don't have transponders. If you do it outside of rush hour the highway will be quiet and you will be caught.
I'll agree with you there. There are plenty of people in Ontario with no concept of moving over to let faster travel go. I've always been of the opinion that if someone can reasonably (as in, without swerving dramatically or cutting people off) pass you on the right, you're doing something wrong. Personally, I use the passing lane for what it is: a PASSING lane. What I find even more ignorant than people who don't move over for faster traffic is people who merge onto the freeway, and immediately make their way over to the passing lane...despite all other lanes being clear. Why??? Really, what is going through the minds of these people?
 

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So, what's the generally accepted fudge factor speeding in Canada? Is it different on the highways vs. local roads?

In the States, the usual rule is:
0-5 mph over the posted speed limit = Safe
5-10 mph over the posted speed limit = Usually safe, but you probably want to lay off the accelerator if you see a cop.
10-15 mph over the posted speed limit = You're pushing it, and you probably want to softly lay on the brake if you see a cop.

Any suggestions for Canada?
Depends on the city and depends on the cop. Older cops tend to let the 10-15 and sometimes 20 over slide. The young guys with something to prove will hit you for a 5 over, or a 10 over and drop it to 5 over...pointless i know...Also depends on the time of the month and how their quota looks.

Our highways here are getting to the point where 120 is the norm if your going under your slowing up traffic.
 

rhuarc29

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Depends on the city and depends on the cop. Older cops tend to let the 10-15 and sometimes 20 over slide. The young guys with something to prove will hit you for a 5 over, or a 10 over and drop it to 5 over.
Good point. My younger brother has a myriad of speeding tickets. He's been let off by older cops when he was pulled over doing 25-30km/h over the limit. Yet, he's received tickets from younger cops for doing as little as 10km/h over the limit.
 

Secret-Obsessions

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Good point. My younger brother has a myriad of speeding tickets. He's been let off by older cops when he was pulled over doing 25-30km/h over the limit. Yet, he's received tickets from younger cops for doing as little as 10km/h over the limit.
I hate 10 over tickets. Such a waste of time to go fight it or get someone to fight it for you.
 

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I have first-hand heard an officer saying: the police will give you a benefit of the doubt within 15% of the speed limit, and i find that is very true from my 2hrs minimum of driving daily. On local, i went through speed trap on 60 zone at 70, no problem, the guy doing 75 obviously not by math and it's been observed by me. Doing 119 on 400 regularly, i've been tailgated, passed by the OPP numerous times without getting a ticket, knock woods. On the 40 zone street, doing 50 is 25% over so it's no supprise to be stopped /ticketed, the reason being that it most likely a small street with school.
 

rhuarc29

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On the 40 zone street, doing 50 is 25% over so it's no supprise to be stopped /ticketed, the reason being that it most likely a small street with school.
I'd suggest being very careful on 40km/h limit roads, for more than just the increased chance of being ticketed. They're 40 instead of 50 for a reason.
 
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