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Israel and Apartheid Slander: Richard Goldstone

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This group, no matter how much you love them, are a group of rich anti-Isreal folks who held a convention in Cape Town and push some paper around and repeated some old oft-made, never litigated, accusations against Israel.

And you clearly don't know me at all. I am big on Human Rights. I am also big on the rule of law...the real rule of law, not these clowns who you think have some value.
As a person who values laws and human rights, you should be willing then to defend Israel against these charges, not to dismiss them through character assassination. That would be unbecoming of a legal professional. Why not start with the first law they found fault with, the right of return?
Is not the right of return a racist law?
 

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Groggy, the "russell tribunal" IS character assassination. When you pick hostile jurors and run a fake trial in an afternoon that is all scripted to reach a conclusion that you have already agreed on in advance, that is character assassination.

It's sure as hell not an investigation and it's sure as hell not a tribunal.
 

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As a person who values laws and human rights, you should be willing then to defend Israel against these charges, not to dismiss them through character assassination. That would be unbecoming of a legal professional. Why not start with the first law they found fault with, the right of return?
Is not the right of return a racist law?
Of course what you really mean is defend Israel to 'your' satisfaction and he's smart enough to know that's a mugs game and a waste of time and energy. It's amazing that even the soft allies like Danmand have remained quiet while the G&G gang keep sliding on this grease pole of argument, says more about your idiotic stance.
 

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Groggy, the "russell tribunal" IS character assassination. When you pick hostile jurors and run a fake trial in an afternoon that is all scripted to reach a conclusion that you have already agreed on in advance, that is character assassination.

It's sure as hell not an investigation and it's sure as hell not a tribunal.
Here, read their results again.
They don't talk about the character of Israel, they talk about its laws and practices:
The jury heard abundant evidence of practices that constitute 'inhuman acts' perpetrated against the Palestinian people by the Israeli authorities. These include:

Widespread deprivation of Palestinian life through military operations and incursions, a formal policy of 'targeted killings', and the use of lethal force against demonstrations.
Torture and ill-treatment of Palestinians in the context of widespread deprivation of liberty through policies of arbitrary arrest and administrative detention without charge. The jury finds that such measures frequently go Beyond what is reasonably justified by security concerns and amount to a form of domination over the Palestinians as a group.
Systematic human rights violations that preclude Palestinian development and prevent the Palestinians as a group from participating in political, economic, social and cultural life. Palestinian refugees who remain displaced are also victims of apartheid by virtue of the ongoing denial of their right to return to their homes, as well as by laws that remove their property and citizenship rights. Policies of forced population transfer remain widespread, particularly in the occupied Palestinian territory.
Civil and political rights of Palestinians including rights to movement, residence, free opinion and association are severely curtailed. Palestinian socio-economic rights are also adversely affected by discriminatory Israeli policies in the spheres of education, health and housing.
Since 1948 the Israeli authorities have pursued concerted policies of colonisation and appropriation of Palestinian land. Israel has through its laws and practices divided the Israeli Jewish and Palestinian populations and allocated them different physical spaces, with varying levels and quality of infrastructure, services and access to resources. The end result is wholesale territorial fragmentation and a series of separate reserves and enclaves, with the two groups largely segregated. The Tribunal heard evidence to the effect that such a policy is formally described in Israel as hafrada, Hebrew for 'separation'.
 

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LOL, so you don't care that is a fraud, propaganda theatre, fake, etc. you're just going to keep quoting from it anyway. Just ignore all the problems with it, don't even try and defend it, just shut your eyes, clamp your hands over your ears, and sing your propaganda song.

You are a propaganda clown. Really, you are.

Fact, logic, reason--the least of your worries.
 

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LOL, so you don't care that is a fraud, propaganda theatre, fake, etc. you're just going to keep quoting from it anyway. Just ignore all the problems with it, don't even try and defend it, just shut your eyes, clamp your hands over your ears, and sing your propaganda song.

You are a propaganda clown. Really, you are.

Fact, logic, reason--the least of your worries.
I was thinking I'd edit this reply down to just the insults, but realized it comes out the same.
Just insults.

So why don't we discuss even just the first charge.
Targeted killings.
Do you support Israel's right to kill Palestinians?
Or do you support the rule of law?
 

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Groggy what did you expect? The thing was completely debunked as propaganda theatre, and rather than respond to the problems with the tribunal, rather than make any attempt to defend it, you didn't even acknowledge the issues and simply blindly and stupidly quoted from it again. Yes that causes people to question your intelligence and your honesty. Plainly.

1. No due process

2. No authority

3. Not backed by any nations

4. Hand picked jurors hostile to Israel

5. Scripted event with conclusions prepared in advance

6. An "investigation" done in one afternoon

7. No judges or jurists of any note

8. Held at a time designed to excluded Jewish participants

9. Run by people notable for their hostility to Israel

10. Widely criticized by judges and other experts as being a sham

And yet you go on and ignore all that and quote from it anyway, pretending it has some validity or merit, without responding or even acknowledging the fact that it's a fraud.
 

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If its a fraud, why don't you show me how easy it is to defend Israel from all its 'fraudulent' charges?
Just take one for a start, surely if its so fraudulent it must be easy to debate.
 

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You have been wrong on every point you've raised, Groggy, so I think not only have you been shown how easy it is to defend Israel from the fraudulent charges, I think you have been thoroughly humiliated in that regard.
 

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As a person who values laws and human rights, you should be willing then to defend Israel against these charges, not to dismiss them through character assassination. That would be unbecoming of a legal professional. Why not start with the first law they found fault with, the right of return?
Is not the right of return a racist law?
As usual you missed the point. YOu wanted to elevate a bunch of guys who got together to knock Israel into something of precedential value. That was farcical and dishonest.

Anyone could defend Israel from your accusations until they are blue in the face, but you would not change.

I have done no character assassination, just talked about facts. And to be honest, I don;t think someone who does misleading math to allege jewish conspiracies should talk about conduct unbecoming.

The right of return is a fascinating issue actually, but the Israeli law is no more racist than many other similar laws around the world which are well accepted. Normally I would be happy to discuss right of return laws in depth, but you are not intelligent or even handed enough to have an intelligent conversation with. You are too busy suggesting that Iran should get nuclear weapons.
 

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Goldstone and the futility of repentance

Mark LeVine Last Modified: 07 Nov 2011 19:03

It has not been a good two years for South African Justice Richard Goldstone. Handed the politically explosive task of heading a UN fact-finding mission into Operation Cast Lead, Israel's 2008-2009 invasion of Gaza, whatever conclusions arrived at by the eminent juror and his colleagues were sure to anger one or both parties to the conflict. And so they did.

But Hamas had far less to lose than Israel from the findings of the mission, which responded to the report by mobilising an international campaign to delegitimise not just its findings, but its main author as well. That process has continued to today, even as Goldstone has written yet another op-ed piece for a major US newspaper attempting to rehabilitate Israel's international image, and in so doing, his own standing within the Jewish community.

During the apartheid era Goldstone was not known as a firebrand activist, but he was among the country's most important mainstream liberal jurists. He played an important role in formulating the post-apartheid constitution, using his considerable legal, and - as important - diplomatic skills to create a workable political framework for the transition from racist to democratic rule.

As important from the standpoint of the UN Human Rights Council - a body whose own legitimacy has long been questioned, given the number of undemocratic countries routinely represented on it - Goldstone was not just South African, he also had led the war crimes prosecutions for Yugoslavia and Rwanda. On top of that, he also is Jewish, with strong ties to Israel, which offered some insurance against the inevitable claims of anti-Israel bias that would surely be leveled against the mission.

Deliberate attacks, and much more

And the mission's findings had left no doubt about both Israel's and Hamas' culpability in the war, although, given the scale of destruction, it was Israel that received the lion's share of the blame. Most people - although certainly not the people of Gaza - have either forgotten about or never read the report's conclusions regarding the scale and intensity of Israel's violation of international law. It is worth recounting some of the most important findings here, because they are relevant to understanding Goldstone's later "reassessment" of the war.

Among the almost 500-page report's findings about Israel's behaviour during the war, the most damning was its conclusion that Israel had engaged in a "a deliberately disproportionate attack designed to punish, humiliate, and terrorise a civilian population", which included attacking mosques, homes, schools and other clearly non-military targets.

Crucially, this list of actions did not include the deliberate attempt to murder large numbers of Palestinians, which would have been tantamount to an accusation of genocide. However, the report did further conclude that:

"Operations were in furtherance of an overall policy aimed at punishing the Gaza population for its resilience and for its apparent support for Hamas, and possibly with the intent of forcing a change in such support. The mission considers this position to be firmly based in fact, bearing in mind what it saw and heard on the ground, what it read in the accounts of soldiers who served in the campaign, and what it heard and read from current and former military officers and political leaders whom the mission considers to be representative of the thinking that informed the policy and strategy of the military operations."

Although the report doesn't mention it, using violence to force a civilian population to change its political behaviour is in fact among the most basic definitions of terrorism. What the mission concluded, then, although it couldn't say so politically, was that even if Israel could justifiably argue that it was legally justified in invading Gaza to stop attacks on its civilians, the manner in which Israel prosecuted Operation Cast Lead made it one huge act of state terrorism.

Indeed, according to the report:

"Operations were carefully planned in all their phases. Legal opinions and advice were given throughout the planning stages and at certain operational levels during the campaign. There were almost no mistakes made according to the Government of Israel."

Later, it argues that the large-scale destruction of Palestinian infrastructure during the war was:

"The result of a deliberate and systematic policy by the Israeli armed forces ... Allied to the systematic destruction of the economic capacity of the Gaza Strip, there appears also to have been an assault on the dignity of the people. This was seen not only in the use of human shields and unlawful detentions sometimes in unacceptable conditions, but also in the vandalising of houses when occupied, and the way in which people were treated when their houses were entered. The graffiti on the walls, the obscenities and often racist slogans, all constituted an overall image of humiliation and dehumanisation of the Palestinian population."

The report continues by criticising Israeli human rights violations in the West Bank, and its violation of the obligation to allow free passage of medicines, food and clothing. But paragraph 1936 of the conclusion is perhaps the most damning:

"The mission further considers that the series of acts that deprive Palestinians in the Gaza Strip of their means of subsistence, employment, housing and water, that deny their freedom of movement and their right to leave and enter their own country, that limit their rights to access a court of law and an effective remedy, could lead a competent court to find that the crime of persecution, a crime against humanity, has been committed."

And these are just the findings of the first half of the report's conclusion.

No surprise to most people

Within Israel and the international human rights community, the report's conclusion were not at all surprising. The sheer numbers killed in the assault - 773 out of 1,387 Palestinian fatalities were civilians, 252 of them children - betrayed the extreme violence it involved.

Not to mention that Israeli leaders spoke candidly and even giddily during and immediately after the conflict about "going wild" and "punishing" Palestinians. This was their way of reasserting Israel's once-vaunted but recently weakened deterrent capability - which had been won over the six decades of its existence through a specific and unapologetic policy of massive and disproportionate retaliation for any attacks against it.

Moreover, thanks to the rise of social media and "citizen journalism", the world had seen with its own eyes and in real time the destruction wraught by Operation Cast Lead. Organisations such as B'Tselem, Palestinian human rights organisations, and international NGOs such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, all offered damning reports of Israeli violations of international law during the conflict, as detailed by Ben White in his Al Jazeera column on Wednesday.

A postmodern inquisition

While certainly upsetting, almost none of the actions described by the report on the part of Israel were new. They have been standard practice for the entirety of the occupation; only their scope and scale intensified during the war. Given these factors and the lack of controversy within the human rights community about the nature, extent and rationales behind Israel's actions, it might well be that Justice Goldstone was unprepared for the unremitting vehemence of the attacks, not just on the mission, but upon him personally, after the report's release.

These attacks came not just from within Israel, but also from the Obama administration, the US congress and by the Jewish diaspora - especially South African and US Jewish communities, and their representatives in the mainstream media.

Goldstone was accused literally of creating a blood-libel by prominent figures such as Dore Gold and Alan Dershowitz, who even compared him to the Angel of Death, Josef Mengele. Numerous prominent Jews, including Elie Wiesel, declared the Goldstone Report to be "a crime against the Jewish people". For Wiesel, as for so many other supporters of Israel, "I can’t believe that Israeli soldiers murdered people or shot children. It just can’t be."

Unfortunately for the hundreds of dead Palestinian children killed in Cast Lead and the thousands of Palestinians killed during the occupation, it just can be, and is, no matter how badly Wiesel wishes it were not so. (Indeed, if a Palestinian with anything close to the prominence of Elie Wiesel claimed that "he could not believe that Hamas murdered people or killed children. It just can't be," he or she would be drummed out of polite society.)

But being "fact", as the mission declared its findings, is one thing; being accepted as such in the public sphere and especially the pro-Israel Jewish and evangelical communities, without whose support Israel could never get away with such actions, is another. And so Phase Two of Operation Cast Lead, the propaganda battle to determine the public narrative of the war, was launched. Its chief target was the integrity of Justice Goldstone.

The accusations of starting a blood libel and of engaging in a deliberate betrayal of fellow Jews are of the same type as the accusations that led to the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin. He was removed from the Board of Governors of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and became persona non grata in Israel.

Moreover, Goldstone was essentially excommunicated from his synagogue, and attempts were made to prevent him from attending his grandson's bar mitzvah.

As a prominent South African Jewish scholar explained to me: "I think international Jewish pressure was relentless and got to him and he felt a sort of community death knell." A well-known progressive Jewish leader in the US who has faced similarly vitriolic attacks from the Zionist Right seconded this view, arguing that "Judge Goldstone was assaulted harshly by the State of Israel and by the organised Jewish community, publicly repudiated by the Obama administration and Congress".

What's worse, he continued, "very few people on the peace side publicly stood up in his defence. No left-wing magazine or newspaper or website came to his defence or praised him, much less offered physical protection". The significant levels of anti-Semitism in the anti-Zionist Left prevented them from embracing him when he most needed support. Because of this, "who can blame him for feeling scared and vulnerable? His family was under constant pressure to disassociate themselves from him, and yet the progressive forces did little to stand by him". Like with any form of psychological abuse, if enough people in your community "vilify you as a traitor", eventually you will start to believe them and change your behaviour to stop the abuse.

Of course, Goldstone is not alone in feeling this incredible pressure. Former US President Jimmy Carter also suffered viscious attacks for his Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid. And, like Justice Goldstone, the pressure grew to a certain level at which he felt necessary to apologise to Jews, "asking for forgiveness" for "stigmatising Israel" - even though essentially the same argument as his was being made by mainstream politicians inside Israel, all the way up to former Prime Ministers Ehud Olmert and Ehud Barak.

Ongoing pressure

And the pressure continues to this day. Right-wing Islamophobe and Washington Post columnist Jennifer Rubin declared even after Goldstone's latest attempt to reclaim his position that he is "the man who has done more to embolden Israel’s de-legitimisers than any person on the planet".

Similarly, Jeffrey Goldberg, a writer for the Atlantic who is known for his uncritical and apologistic reporting on Israel, wrote on his Atlantic blog that Goldstone is the "author of a libelous United Nations report on the 2009 Gaza War".

It seems that even with Goldstone's latest attempt at "repentance" (as Goldberg terms it), the gatekeepers of the mainstream Jewish public sphere are keeping the screws tight, ensuring that he understands that even more will be demanded of him before he can return fully to the fold.

The cultural revolutionaries of Maoist China had nothing on these grand inquisitors of the organised Jewish community.

What actually was reconsidered

Given the level of attacks Justice Goldstone faced, it's not a surprise, although it was certainly a disappointment, when Goldstone attempted to "reconsider" the key accusations of the Commission's report, in an April 2011 Washington Post op-ed. In it, he argued that new evidence provided by the Israeli military demonstrated that while civilians were killed during the war, they were not killed deliberately.

Justice Goldstone's main argument in this piece was that investigations by Israel since the mission first published its findings "indicate that civilians were not intentionally targeted as a matter of policy". He went on to praise Israel's dedication of "significant resources to investigate over 400 allegations of operational misconduct in Gaza".

Few people in the world accept the Egyptian government's conclusion after an "internal investigation" into the murder of two dozen Coptic Christians last month that - not surprisingly - the army bore no responsibility for their deaths. And with good reason. No military or police organisation can be expected to engage in unbiased investigations of alleged crimes committed by its own forces. That's why independent commissions like Goldstone's are empowered in the first place.

But Goldstone did just that, uncritically accepting an internal Israeli investigation even thought it neither offered evidence challenging the claim that the main killings investigated by the mission were part of a deliberate policy of using disproportionate and indiscriminate force, and in fact followed a long and well-documented pattern of similar behaviour against Palestinian civilians.
 

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Indeed, in the months since the mission's report was issued, what new independent evidence and analysis was produced reinforced rather than challenged its core findings, but Goldstone mentioned none of this in his article.

Even more, Human Rights Watch produced a report, based in part on discussions with Israeli military officers, only weeks before Goldstone's article lauded Israel for its investigations, which he similarly ignored, which declared that "Israel has failed to demonstrate that it will conduct thorough and impartial investigations into alleged laws-of-war violations by its forces during last year's Gaza conflict ... An independent investigation is needed if perpetrators of abuse, including senior military and political officials who set policies that violated the laws of war, are to be held accountable".

Moreover, what was further claimed in the mission's report, and not denied by Goldstone in this article, was that "collective punishment was intentionally inflicted by the Government of Israel upon the people of the Gaza Strip", which is itself a war crime, according to Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention.

Moving away from the facts

Goldstone's half-hearted but much-publicised attempt to reassess the mission's finding are the first indication that the justice was now operating outside the bounds of objectivity and rules of evidence that guided his work in the past.

While the article might have begun the process of his rehabilitation within the organised Jewish community (it was widely reported on and celebrated in Israel and the US as a vindication of the war), it led to significant criticism by other members of the mission, who took the unprecedented step of publishing a direct rebuke of his article in the Guardian.

In an April 14, 2011 op-ed article they declared that "it is necessary to dispel any impression that subsequent developments have rendered any part of the mission's report unsubstantiated, erroneous or inaccurate. We concur in our view that there is no justification for any demand or expectation for reconsideration of the report as nothing of substance has appeared that would in any way change the context, findings or conclusions of that report".

Their argument was buttressed by reports by B'Tselem and other human rights organisations that appeared around the same time as his op-ed, which backed the original report and went even further in their condemnations of Israeli actions and went into significant detail about the "unlawful destruction" wrought by the Gaza war. They confirmed the report's findings that mass destruction, collective punishment and "humiliation and dehumanisation of the Palestinian population" are viewed in Israeli security doctrine as "a legitimate means to achieve military and political goals".

Apartheid or something else?

The Israeli invasion of Gaza and the continued and ever-growing occupation of the West Bank and Gaza has intensified comparison of Israel's policies in the occupied territories by many Palestinians and international activists to those of apartheid-era South Africa. These accusations are not new, and have in fact been levelled by Israelis against their government's policies for decades.

More infamously for Israel and its supporters, the United Nations passed the "Zionism equals Racism" resolution in 1975, which declared that "Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination" and specifically declared its origin and structure to be linked to that of the apartheid government in South Africa.

The resolution was problematic in many respects. These included its application of the term "race" to an ethno-territorial conflict, as well as its uncritical lumping together of the treatment of Palestinians on both sides of the Green Line. More broadly, the resolution singled out Israel for treatment of minority and occupied peoples that was no different from the way a host of other UN member states treated various groups under their control.

But its claim that Israel and South Africa shared a "common imperialist origin", while simplistic and inaccurate in many ways, does have some historical grounding. Both Afrikaaner and Zionist nationalisms evolved as European settler colonial movements which sought to gain control over territory while displacing and then controlling the existing inhabitants, and both had ambivalent relationships with the imperial power - in this case, the British - under whose rule they lived before achieving independence.

Moreover, as Israel's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza intensified, the territorial, economic and political matrix of control imposed by Israel upon the occupied territories (which was not yet fully in place in 1975) grew to include not just the systematic expropriation of territory and displacement of Palestinians, but the forced constriction of movement and limitations on employment, restrictions on marriages and unlawful treatment of the occupied population in a host of ways which the Gaza war merely magnified rather than taking to a whole new level.

These policies clearly resemble in myriad ways the strategies of control used by the apartheid-era South African governments.

Because of this, it's not surprising that many South African activists and politicians, including Desmund Tutu and Nelson Mandela, have harshly criticised Israel's policies as resembling and even exceeding those suffered by South African blacks under apartheid. Indeed, many South African Jews who participated in the anti-apartheid struggles have made similar claims, including activists such as Denis Goldberg and Ronnie Kasrils, who after a 2004 visit to the occupied territories declared that the occupation "makes apartheid look like a picnic".

"We never had jets attacking our townships. We never had sieges that lasted month after month. We never had tanks destroying houses. We had armoured vehicles and police using small arms to shoot people - but not on this scale."

Neither Kasrils nor Goldberg are very invested in the South African Jewish community, whose vehemence in facing down critics of Israel "rivals" its US counterpart, according to the South African scholar I quoted above. But with an organisation named the Russell Tribunal, modelled on the People's Tribunal on Vietnam established by the late philosopher Bertrand Russell, about to hold another half a dozen or so sessions on the Israeli occupation, this time in South Africa, it appears that Justice Goldstone was called upon, or felt compelled, again to step into the field of battle to defend Israel.

And so, in a November 1 op-ed in the New York Times, "Israel and the Apartheid Slander", he did just that, arguing that comparisons between Israel and apartheid-era South Africa are "pernicious", and an "unfair and inaccurate slander against Israel, calculated to retard rather than advance peace negotiations".

The language and discourse of the article reveal much about the state of the art of Israeli hasbara, or propaganda, not because Goldstone might have been advised on what points to make by Israeli spin doctors but rather precisely because the thinking is clearly his own.

To begin with, Goldstone tags his article to the weeks-old UN General Assembly vote to recognise Palestine, declaring that "the Palestinian Authority’s request for full United Nations membership has put hope for any two-state solution under increasing pressure".

Not Israel's ever-increasing settlements (even more of which were announced the day the article was published), not blanket US support for Israel, not even continued violence by Palestinian militants. Just the attempt to gain recognition as a state is for Goldstone the biggest threat to peace.

He then argues that:

"In Israel, there is no apartheid. Nothing there comes close to the definition of apartheid under the 1998 Rome Statute: 'Inhumane acts ... committed in the context of an institutionalised regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group over any other racial group or groups and committed with the intention of maintaining that regime.' Israeli Arabs - 20 per cent of Israel's population - vote, have political parties and representatives in the Knesset and occupy positions of acclaim, including on its Supreme Court. Arab patients lie alongside Jewish patients in Israeli hospitals, receiving identical treatment."

Of course, Goldstone is right about the relative status of Israel's Palestinian citizens, but no serious comparison of Israel with apartheid-era South Africa focuses on the treatment of Palestinian citizens, as undemocratic as it has been in many areas. Instead, the focus has been on the occupation. Indeed, the Bertrand Russell Tribunal describes its focus as on "the ongoing occupation of Palestinian territories by Israel". Of course, as Israel increases repression against its Palestinian citizens, the analogy begins to hold more water within Israel as well.

When he does turn to the West Bank, Goldstone argues that the situation is "more complex" than in Israel. "But here too there is no intent to maintain 'an institutionalised regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group'." For Goldstone "this is a critical distinction" - that is, that Palestinians are not a distinct racial group, and so Israel's policies cannot be compared to apartheid.

Here Goldstone's analysis is based on a very outdated notion of race, as some sort of distinct biological construct which is different in essence from ethnicity or other markers of communal separateness (even though elsewhere in the piece he uses them interchangeably). In reality, race is a political construct, one that is intimately tied to power and territory - specifically to the power of certain groups to control territory and through it control who has the right to live and work within a given territory.

To argue that Palestinians are not a "race" and therefore Israel isn't practicing apartheid-like policies is intellectually sloppy, especially coming from a jurist of Goldstone's stature.

Even more so when the Rome Statute cited by him defines crimes against humanity, of which apartheid is a component, as involving not merely persecution or violence based on race, but instead on "political, racial, national, ethnic, cultural, religious, or other grounds". If he wished to argue that Israeli policies are not technically apartheid because they are not "racially" motivated, the very definition he deploys to support his argument merely supports the argument that they fall under the broader category of crimes against humanity.

Agreeing in concept, settling in reality

Justice Goldstone's argument falls further from reality when he claims that "even if Israel acts oppressively toward Palestinians ... Israel has agreed in concept to the existence of a Palestinian state in Gaza and almost all of the West Bank, and is calling for the Palestinians to negotiate the parameters".

This argument could charitably be described as disingenuous. The phrase "agreeing in concept" is literally meaningless, as Israel has long signed onto agreements that it has then violated - this is in fact a good summary of the history of the Oslo peace process, as I and other scholars have documented. One can only imagine Justice Goldstone's response if a lawyer tried to use similar language in his courtroom.

Finally, Justice Goldstone returns to two of the most prominent themes used by Israel's defenders: Its actions are defensive and the result of Palestinian provocations, and, in case that argument isn't persuasive, that both sides are ultimately to blame for the endless cycles of violence:

"But until there is a two-state peace, or at least as long as Israel's citizens remain under threat of attacks from the West Bank and Gaza, Israel will see roadblocks and similar measures as necessary for self-defence, even as Palestinians feel oppressed. As things stand, attacks from one side are met by counterattacks from the other. And the deep disputes, claims and counterclaims are only hardened when the offensive analogy of "apartheid" is invoked."

In other words, Israel's policies of closures, roadblocks and the "security" (for much of the world, "apartheid") wall have nothing to do with gaining and cementing control over Palestinian territory, but instead are purely defensive in nature. This is blatantly inaccurate, as the geography of the matrix of control makes clear . In fact, the original report states specifically in paragraph 92 that "in the West Bank, Israel has long imposed a system of restrictions on movement", and that it could not meet with many Palestinian experts because of these ongoing restrictions.

The claim that both sides are ultimately to blame for the ongoing violence is equally problematic. Hamas can and should be called to account for its terrorist actions against Jews and a host of crimes it has committed against Palestinians. But the ultimate responsibility for the violence and decades-long systematic violations of human rights in the Occupied Territories is Israel's, both as the recognised belligerent occupier of the territories, and as the perpetrator of the vast majority of the violence on the ground.

It's important to note here that Israel could in fact have occupied the West Bank and Gaza in 1967 and continued the military occupation to this day under the justification of protecting the security of its citizens, within the framework of international law.

It could have done so, however, only if it never established a single settlement, or bypass road or seized and/or destroyed huge swaths of Palestinian property and territory - that is, if it maintained a purely military occupation that did little to disturb the daily life and natural development of the occupied population.

But the occupation has never been about security, it's been about settlement, pure and simple.

And as long as the occupation remains essentially a settlement enterprise, analogies between Israeli policies in the occupied territories and apartheid South Africa will be accurate, no matter how hard Israel's supporters, even when they are as eminent as Justice Goldstone, try to deny this reality.

Mark LeVine is a professor of history at UC Irvine and senior visiting researcher
 

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Danmand, your article ignores that Goldstone's report, whatever else you may think, was based on a fundamental logic error:

"The mission does not know why XYZ was targeted, therefore we will assume there was no good reason, and it must be a war crime".

That is literally what he argued, and why when the additional information eventually did come out, he had to retract those claims.
 

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Danmand, your article ignores that Goldstone's report, whatever else you may think, was based on a fundamental logic error:

"The mission does not know why XYZ was targeted, therefore we will assume there was no good reason, and it must be a war crime".

That is literally what he argued, and why when the additional information eventually did come out, he had to retract those claims.
No, the Goldstone Report has not been modified in any way, let alone retracted, Ernst Zundel/Fuji. In fact, a subsequent formal review by a different set of human rights scholars confirms all the charges and boldly states that the most serious charges have not been answered by Israel to this day.
 

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I agree: It's still wrong. The report has been refuted, and since it's not been modified since then, it's currently garbage.
No it has not been refuted at all. It went through a subsequent review by a different set of human rights scholars using a transparent methodology (this included an update on the actions of the warring parties) and they reached the same conclusions and upheld all the charges. So, the Goldstone Report has more legitimacy than ever.
 

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No it has not been refuted at all.
I love when you post this sort of tripe--there might still be somebody here who doesn't know how discredited you are. The report's own author has said that it is wrong. What more can I say?

You are a buffoon.
 

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I agree: It's still wrong. The report has been refuted, and since it's not been modified since then, it's currently garbage.
Hey Fuji, read this, its from the rest of the Goldstone report authors:

Goldstone report: Statement issued by members of UN mission on Gaza war
Statement issued by members of the UN fact-finding mission to Gaza, May-September 2009



Hina Jilani, Christine Chinkin and Desmond T**********s
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 14 April 2011 08.17 BST

In recent days some articles and comments appearing in the press with respect to the report of the United Nations (UN) fact-finding mission on the Gaza conflict of 2008-2009 have misrepresented facts in an attempt to delegitimise the findings of this report and to cast doubts on its credibility.

The mission that comprised four members, including Justice Richard Goldstone as its chair, came to an end when it presented its report to the UN human rights council in September 2009. The report of the mission is now an official UN document and all actions taken pursuant to its findings and recommendations fall solely within the purview of the United Nations general assembly which, along with the human rights council, reviewed and endorsed it at the end of 2009.

Aspersions cast on the findings of the report, nevertheless, cannot be left unchallenged. Members of the mission, signatories to this statement, find it necessary to dispel any impression that subsequent developments have rendered any part of the mission's report unsubstantiated, erroneous or inaccurate.

We concur in our view that there is no justification for any demand or expectation for reconsideration of the report as nothing of substance has appeared that would in any way change the context, findings or conclusions of that report with respect to any of the parties to the Gaza conflict. Indeed, there is no UN procedure or precedent to that effect.

The report of the fact-finding mission contains the conclusions made after diligent, independent and objective consideration of the information related to the events within our mandate, and careful assessment of its reliability and credibility. We firmly stand by these conclusions.

Also, it is the prerogative of the UN to take cognisance of any evidence subsequently gathered under domestic procedures that it finds credible and in accordance with international standards. Over 18 months after publication of the report, however, we are very far from reaching that point.

The mandate of the mission did not require it to conduct a judicial or even a quasi-judicial investigation. The mission and the report are part of a truth-seeking process that could lead to effective judicial processes. Like all reports of similar missions of the UN, it provided the basis for parties to conduct investigations for gathering of evidence, as required by international law, and, if so warranted, prosecution of individuals who ordered, planned or carried out international crimes.

In the case of the Gaza conflict, we believe that both parties held responsible in this respect, have yet to establish a convincing basis for any claims that contradict the findings of the mission's report.

The report recommended that proper investigations and judicial processes should ideally be carried out first of all at the domestic level, with monitoring by the UN. If these proved inadequate, it laid down a roadmap for the continuation of such processes at the international level. In line with these recommendations, the UN human rights council appointed a committee of independent experts to monitor the independence, effectiveness and genuineness of any domestic proceedings carried out to investigate crimes and violations of international law pointed out in the mission's report.

Many of those calling for the nullification of our report imply that the final report by the follow-up committee's two members, Judge Mary McGowan Davis and Judge Lennart Aspergren, presented to the human rights council in March 2011, somehow contradicts the fact-finding mission's report or invalidates it.

In the light of the observations of this committee such claims are completely misplaced, and a clear distortion of their findings. The committee's report states that, according to available information, Israel has conducted some 400 command investigations into allegations by the fact-finding mission and other organisations. Command investigations are operational, not legal, inquiries and are conducted by personnel from the same command structure as those under investigation. Out of these, the committee reports that 52 criminal investigations into allegations of wrongdoings have been opened. Of these, three have been submitted for prosecution, with two of them resulting in convictions (one for theft of a credit card, resulting in a sentence of seven months' imprisonment, and another for using a Palestinian child as a human shield, which resulted in a suspended sentence of three months). The third case, related to allegations of deliberate targeting of an individual waving a white flag, is still ongoing.

The committee has expressed serious concerns about the late start and slow pace of the proceedings, their insufficient transparency and the participation of victims and witnesses. Out of the 36 incidents relating to Gaza described in the fact-finding mission report, more than one third remain unresolved or without a clear status over two years after the conflict. The committee concluded that the slow progress could seriously impair the effectiveness of the investigations and prospects of achieving justice and accountability. Therefore, the mechanisms that are being used by the Israeli authorities to investigate the incidents are proving inadequate to genuinely ascertain the facts and any ensuing legal responsibility.

In addition, with regard to the issue of the policies guiding Operation Cast Lead, the committee states that there is "no indication that Israel has opened investigations into the actions of those who designed, planned, ordered and oversaw Operation Cast Lead". In other words, one of the most serious allegations about the conduct of Israel's military operations remains completely unaddressed.

We regret that no domestic investigations at all have been started into any of the allegations of international crimes committed by members of Palestinian armed groups in Gaza which have fired thousands of rockets into southern Israel. The committee observes the same in its report.

We consider that calls to reconsider or even retract the report, as well as attempts at misrepresenting its nature and purpose, disregard the right of victims, Palestinian and Israeli, to truth and justice. They also ignore the responsibility of the relevant parties under international law to conduct prompt, thorough, effective and independent investigations. We regret the personal attacks and the extraordinary pressure placed on members of the fact-finding mission since we began our work in May 2009. This campaign has been clearly aimed at undermining the integrity of the report and its authors. Had we given in to pressures from any quarter to sanitise our conclusions, we would be doing a serious injustice to the hundreds of innocent civilians killed during the Gaza conflict, the thousands injured, and the hundreds of thousands whose lives continue to be deeply affected by the conflict and the blockade.

The report has triggered a process that is still under way and should continue until justice is done and respect for international human rights and humanitarian law by everyone is ensured.
 

fuji

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Groggy, I've pointed out the actual flaw in the report:

1. The mission doesn't know why a police station was targeted,

2. Therefore there's no reason why,

3. Therefore it's a war crime

It was always bullshit, it was bullshit then, and it's bullshit now. The only thing that's changed since then is Goldstone has come out and acknowledge that it was bullshit, but it was bullshit with or without his acknowledgement.

As for Chinkin and Jilani you would be hard pressed to find two people who were more hostile towards Israel than those two.

You do know that Chinkin, for example, published her opinion that Cast Lead was illegal *before* she participated in the "fact finding" mission. She'd already made up her mind before even looking into it! The whole thing was a sham then and it's a sham now, and she hasn't changed her fraudulent tone since then.

Again the argument numbered above is simply false and illogical, but that is exactly what's in the report.

I went through the Goldstone report in detail when it came out and pointed out the specific flaws, would you like a link?
 
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