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Israel and Apartheid Slander: Richard Goldstone

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And this:

Goldstone op-ed: Israel has "no intent to maintain 'an institutonalized regime of systematic oppression and domination by one racial group'". In Israel, "equal rights are the law".

Goldstone Report:

Israel's "systematic discrimination, both in law and in practice, against Palestinians" violates international law, and possibly amounts to a crime against humanity [324]. In the West Bank, "a two-tiered road system has been established" with the main roads are reserved for Israelis. [55] Israel's legal practice in the occupied territories has resulted in "institutionalized discrimination against Palestinians... to the benefit of Jewish settlers". Domestically Israel's legal regime is "two-tiered", granting Jews "superior rights and privileges"; meanwhile Palestinian inhabitants of occupied territories are categorised as "alien persons". [57] The Report notes the conclusions of a study by the respected Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI) that Israel's "discrimination in planning and building" and other policies in Jerusalem "are concrete expressions of an Israeli policy designed to secure a Jewish majority in Jerusalem and push Palestinian residents outside". [332]
Yup. One was written by a committee and one was written by the man. It really undercuts the value of the report now doesn't it...
 

gryfin

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Yup. One was written by a committee and one was written by the man. It really undercuts the value of the report now doesn't it...
You mean that one is a 500 page report with on-site interviews and on-site reviews of physical evidence by a group of Human Rights scholars according to a transparent methodology that included full public hearings while the other is a single page op-ed without any evidence by a man that has been abused for his views?

Yes, they are quite different.
 

blackrock13

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You mean that one is a 500 page report with on-site interviews and on-site reviews of physical evidence by a group of Human Rights scholars according to a transparent methodology that included full public hearings while the other is a single page op-ed without any evidence by a man that has been abused for his views?

Yes, they are quite different.
The Goldstone Report that the author said was flawed because information was held back?
 

toguy5252

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Yup. One was written by a committee and one was written by the man. It really undercuts the value of the report now doesn't it...
Why would the guy who chaired the committee which authored the report know anything about the accuracy of the content. LOL. The g & g clowns are at their hilarious (although always pathetic) best when they are trying to deny or explain away the obvious.
 

gryfin

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The Goldstone Report that the author said was flawed because information was held back?
Really? Send us the link to the modified Goldstone Report. You know, the one the author changed because it was wrong.

I suspect you can't find it. Why? Because the author did not change a thing.

In fact, a follow up report by another set of independent Human Rights scholars, confirmed everything in the Goldstone Report.
 

fuji

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Gryfin, you missed the news: The Goldstone report has been thoroughly discredited and serious people don't pay any heed to it.
 

blackrock13

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Really? Send us the link to the modified Goldstone Report. You know, the one the author changed because it was wrong.

I suspect you can't find it. Why? Because the author did not change a thing.

In fact, a follow up report by another set of independent Human Rights scholars, confirmed everything in the Goldstone Report.

No one claimed that the author changed the report. More of the Fringe. All I said is that he claimed the report was flawed and the reasons

It's truly amazing how badly you understand plain english.
 

fuji

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The original Goldstone report was flawed. It took the position that any missing information should be assumed to be negative towards Israel. That was horribly wrong, as I pointed out at the time.

To his credit, though, as new information came out, repudiating the assumptions in the report, Goldstone acknowledged that, and changed his position.

Some people, when the facts change, change their opinion. And then there is Gryfin, bitterly clinging to a repudiated document because his hate can't stand the idea that Israel might not have done anything wrong.
 

gryfin

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The original Goldstone report was flawed. It took the position that any missing information should be assumed to be negative towards Israel. That was horribly wrong, as I pointed out at the time.

To his credit, though, as new information came out, repudiating the assumptions in the report, Goldstone acknowledged that, and changed his position.

Some people, when the facts change, change their opinion. And then there is Gryfin, bitterly clinging to a repudiated document because his hate can't stand the idea that Israel might not have done anything wrong.

On the contrary, The Goldstone Report has not been modified in any way. None of its authors have submitted or requested a change. Furthermore, a subsequent review by another set of human rights scholars of the Goldstone Report and it's conclusions resulted in another confirmation of the report. So much for the new facts myth.
 

fuji

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That's right, gryfin, it has not been modified in any way since it was discredited, which means it is still discredited, the flaws have not been fixed, and so on.

Keep on clinging.
 

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That's right, gryfin, it has not been modified in any way since it was discredited, which means it is still discredited, the flaws have not been fixed, and so on.

Keep on clinging.
The Goldstone report stands, show us official word from the UN that they've removed it or altered it.
You're just pushing propaganda, Fuji.
 

blackrock13

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The Goldstone report stands, show us official word from the UN that they've removed it or altered it.
You're just pushing propaganda, Fuji.

G, you are truly pathetic. The rest of the Israel haters have gone silent on this and left you and sand flea buddy hang in the wind on this one.

Constantly repeating this crap, no matter how many different ways you word it, doesn't make it true
 

fuji

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The Goldstone report stands, show us official word from the UN that they've removed it or altered it.
It defies the imagination how dumb you would have to be to think that Goldstone himself refuting the report is meaningless. Defies the imagination.

You would have to be really, really, really consumed with hatred to try and ignore that little detail.
 

fuji

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Is it legally slander? I don't know that you can legally slander a nation.

In any case it would seem that Jimmy Carter is lying.
 

Brill

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Carter's Camp David Accord proves he isn't anti Israel, he isn't wrong about using the term apartheid in this case either.
 

toguy5252

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Carter's Camp David Accord proves he isn't anti Israel, he isn't wrong about using the term apartheid in this case either.
He is entitled to his opinion as are you. That does not make it so.
 

Brill

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If you say using the word apartheid is anti Israel, then is Carter anti Israel despite his legacy of the Camp David Accord?
 
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