Immigration - Canadian citizenship question

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Can a foreign national come to Canada as a landed immigrant, learn English and gain Canadian citizenship, then soon after leave the country and retain citizenship and the benefits of being Canadian?
 

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Last time I looked, Canadian citizenship has no expiration date. A citizen is a citizen, with full and equal rights. The way you are phrasing the question, I anticipate that you would propose a 2 tiered citizenship. One for "us" and one for "them." "We" would have full freedom and privilege, while "they" get to be second class citizens with inferior rights. Is this what you had in mind? While restricting their freedom of movement, would you also deny them health care or access to schools for their children?

Hey, while you're at it, let's make them work for nothing in our factories and farms for nothing for a generation or two, just to make them pay their dues? Oh, that would probably piss off those PC types though, wouldn't it? They just ruin everything.
 

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Can a foreign national come to Canada as a landed immigrant, learn English and gain Canadian citizenship, then soon after leave the country and retain citizenship and the benefits of being Canadian?
yes.
 

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Last time I looked, Canadian citizenship has no expiration date. A citizen is a citizen, with full and equal rights. The way you are phrasing the question, I anticipate that you would propose a 2 tiered citizenship. One for "us" and one for "them." "We" would have full freedom and privilege, while "they" get to be second class citizens with inferior rights. Is this what you had in mind? While restricting their freedom of movement, would you also deny them health care or access to schools for their children?

Hey, while you're at it, let's make them work for nothing in our factories and farms for nothing for a generation or two, just to make them pay their dues? Oh, that would probably piss off those PC types though, wouldn't it? They just ruin everything.
Health care is provincial, and if you are out of the country long enough, you are no longer covered.
 

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I think you have totally missed the point of what Canadian Citizenship is, while the short answer to your question is 'Yes',..........you are expected to fulfill your rights and responsibilities of being a Canadian Citizen.

http://www.rsscanadaimmigration.com/en/citizenship/rights.php

A couple of the responsibilities are "help others in the community" and "support Canada’s ideals in building the country"...........if someone is simply wanting to gain citizenship, skip the country and totally ignore these responsibilities then that person has no real business becoming a citizen at all.
 

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Can a foreign national come to Canada as a landed immigrant, learn English and gain Canadian citizenship, then soon after leave the country and retain citizenship and the benefits of being Canadian?
Can you, as a Canadian citizen, leave Canada and retain the benefits of Canadian citizenship?

Same answer.

As others have noted a variety of the benefits have residency requirements attached, for example, healthcare is delivered based on whether or not you reside in Canada, not whether you are a citizen. So a non-citizen who has been here six months is entitled to healthcare, while a citizen living overseas is not.
 

oldjones

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Yes, she can. There is just one class of Canadian Citizenship.

But you knew that already and wre just trying to stir the embers of the. "We're really citizens and they're not" fire weren't you?

Born a Canadian citizen and taken abroad by my parents in infancy where I learned neither official language, but now in my thirties and a Manx monoglot I want to come home. Am I still a citizen?
 

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Please read the original post again and do not read between the lines and make up things that are not there.

This is an actual case. It is a young girl that has come to Canada, she stayed for 3 years and did not like it here because things are not easy. Jobs are hard to come by because of the economic times. She is educated, but she can not get a job in the profession she chose because of her poor language skills in English. She is attempting to gain Canadian citizenship before she returns to her country as insurance in case she finds it hard there.
 

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Please read the original post again and do not read between the lines and make up things that are not there.

This is an actual case. It is a young girl that has come to Canada, she stayed for 3 years and did not like it here because things are not easy. Jobs are hard to come by because of the economic times. She is educated, but she can not get a job in the profession she chose because of her poor language skills in English. She is attempting to gain Canadian citizenship before she returns to her country as insurance in case she finds it hard there.
If it's just her poor language skills, then maybe she should focus on improving them. It may be more beneficial to her in the long run.
 

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She is attempting to gain Canadian citizenship before she returns to her country as insurance in case she finds it hard there.
I've known a lot of people who seem to forget why they came here and that things were better in the 'old' country. In most cases - they always come back. There is a set amount of years for a landed immigrant to stay before they can apply for Canadian citizenship. If she qualifies - go for it. As a born Canadian, I don't have a problem. We have a lot of born Canadian scumbags I wish we could get rid of.
 

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Yes, she can. There is just one class of Canadian Citizenship.

But you knew that already and wre just trying to stir the embers of the. "We're really citizens and they're not" fire weren't you?

Born a Canadian citizen and taken abroad by my parents in infancy where I learned neither official language, but now in my thirties and a Manx monoglot I want to come home. Am I still a citizen?
Asked and answered. :)
 

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Can a foreign national come to Canada as a landed immigrant, learn English and gain Canadian citizenship, then soon after leave the country and retain citizenship and the benefits of being Canadian?
you mean do a canadian citizens have the same rights wherever they were born?
 

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Please read the original post again and do not read between the lines and make up things that are not there.

This is an actual case. It is a young girl that has come to Canada, she stayed for 3 years and did not like it here because things are not easy. Jobs are hard to come by because of the economic times. She is educated, but she can not get a job in the profession she chose because of her poor language skills in English. She is attempting to gain Canadian citizenship before she returns to her country as insurance in case she finds it hard there.
She can buy one along with a driver's license and passport then apply for all the goodies.
What kind of immigration consultant are you? :)

don't forget to fuck her good because after she gets it, she's history.
 

Mencken

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Please read the original post again and do not read between the lines and make up things that are not there.

This is an actual case. It is a young girl that has come to Canada, she stayed for 3 years and did not like it here because things are not easy. Jobs are hard to come by because of the economic times. She is educated, but she can not get a job in the profession she chose because of her poor language skills in English. She is attempting to gain Canadian citizenship before she returns to her country as insurance in case she finds it hard there.
I don't see this as a huge problem. Of course if she becomes a citizen she can come back. And the benefits of being Canadian if you do not live in Canada are very minimal. If you contributed long enough to CPP you are entitled to benefit. But that's really your money anyway (more or less). Old age security....don't know the exact rules but you may be able to collect that. But that's about it. No health care, no EI, no other real benefits.
 

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Please read the original post again and do not read between the lines and make up things that are not there.

This is an actual case. It is a young girl that has come to Canada, she stayed for 3 years and did not like it here because things are not easy. Jobs are hard to come by because of the economic times. She is educated, but she can not get a job in the profession she chose because of her poor language skills in English. She is attempting to gain Canadian citizenship before she returns to her country as insurance in case she finds it hard there.
One of the requirements is a functional ability to use one of our official languages. If she can't speak well enough to hold a job would she be able to meet this requirement?

But I don't see what your issue is. So she gets her citizenship and goes back to her home country. If she stays, the fact that she's a Canadian won't cost us anything. If she finds that the old country sucks, she comes back to Canada and we get someone who won't be yammering on about how much better the old country was compared to here.
 
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Brill

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Please read the original post again and do not read between the lines and make up things that are not there.

This is an actual case. It is a young girl that has come to Canada, she stayed for 3 years and did not like it here because things are not easy. Jobs are hard to come by because of the economic times. She is educated, but she can not get a job in the profession she chose because of her poor language skills in English. She is attempting to gain Canadian citizenship before she returns to her country as insurance in case she finds it hard there.
If she gets her Canadian citizenship she gets to keep it even if she decides to leave the country. It could be good insurance if times get really tough.

There are a few countries that won't allow her to return on a full time basis, for instance if she's from Denmark they see her as renouncing their citizenship - she can't be a citizen of two countries over there. I think that's a good policy we should have here, there are no divided loyalties.
 

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Please read the original post again and do not read between the lines and make up things that are not there.

This is an actual case. It is a young girl that has come to Canada, she stayed for 3 years and did not like it here because things are not easy. Jobs are hard to come by because of the economic times. She is educated, but she can not get a job in the profession she chose because of her poor language skills in English. She is attempting to gain Canadian citizenship before she returns to her country as insurance in case she finds it hard there.
And the answer is, "yes"[see post#2]. On what grounds would you imagine what body would revoke her citizenship? Have you ever heard of such a case?

What does all that other personal info about her have to do with your honest question innocently asked? Why is it there except to invite us to opinionate on how unworthy and calculating her plan is?
 

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Wasn't there a situation a few years ago in a middle eastern country where things were getting rough and Canadians were advised to leave? It seems to me there were a number of people who were originally from that country, but had come to Canada and gained Cdn citizenship, then returned to their original country. When things got bad, they asked Canada to rescue them because they were Canadian citizens. It didn't sit too well with some people here.
 

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Please read the original post again and do not read between the lines and make up things that are not there.

This is an actual case. It is a young girl that has come to Canada, she stayed for 3 years and did not like it here because things are not easy. Jobs are hard to come by because of the economic times. She is educated, but she can not get a job in the profession she chose because of her poor language skills in English. She is attempting to gain Canadian citizenship before she returns to her country as insurance in case she finds it hard there.
Sure, if she meets all of the qualifications, passes the test, takes the oath etc.
 
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