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No, idiot. The claim is that cheating is normal behavior, and that it is life denying to prescribe against normal behavior.

You're so dumb.
 

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Further to my post in the other FUJI thread, it's clear that almost no one supports FUJI's point. Much like Foghorn J. Leghorn, he just won't qiite and keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole, looking thew fool along the way. Of course we're 'all' idiots and fools who have no idea about life and values and he does.

The member who suggested that FUJI's wife is a blow up doll is adding himself to a few members who have suggested the same. The more he goes on the longer the list of members who think he's totally full of it grows.
 
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Blackrock the crack about my wife being a blow up doll is exactly the sort of thing you should stick to, that and potty humor. Don't try characterizing the arguments though, that requires reading comprehension that is beyond you. Try some fart jokes instead.
 

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No, idiot. The claim is that cheating is normal behavior, and that it is life denying to prescribe against normal behavior.

You're so dumb.
19-23% does not constitute normal behavior.

Also you suggestion that anything that gives you a survival advantage gives you a reproductive advantage is poppycock. There are lots of things that give women a survival advantage long past their childbearing years and thus a priori invalidate that idea.

You really don't understand evolutionary theory at all. There are many parts of evolutionary theory that have nothing to do with either survival advantage or reproductive advantage.

The amount you don't know about this topic, that you choose to pontificate on is staggering. You are clearly the biggest blowhard I have ever encountered...and I work in law!
 

blackrock13

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19-23% does not constitute normal behavior.

Also you suggestion that anything that gives you a survival advantage gives you a reproductive advantage is poppycock. There are lots of things that give women a survival advantage long past their childbearing years and thus a priori invalidate that idea.

You really don't understand evolutionary theory at all. There are many parts of evolutionary theory that have nothing to do with either survival advantage or reproductive advantage.

The amount you don't know about this topic, that you choose to pontificate on is staggering. You are clearly the biggest blowhard I have ever encountered...and I work in law!
Thanks RID, I needed that. LMAO.
 

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Rid, I totally agree. Also, I have not bothered yet to tease this out, but my speculation would be that Fuji is consistently confusing claims within certain forms of evolutionary psychology with evolutionary biology. That would partly account for his choice of examples, which are all about infidelity, jealousy, male and female differences in sexuality issues, and the constant blather about non-monogamy. And it would account for why he was obviously unable to understand the import of claims derived from primatology. A practicing evolutionary psychologist would know the primatology examples, but a clown reading Internet blogs by evolutionary psychologists would not.

Heh Fuji, do you think infidelity is a specific adaptation?
Personally I think almost all of evolutionary pyschology is built on a house of cards. Waaaaaaay too Lamarkian for me.

But Fuji doesn't even have that...
 

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You really don't understand evolutionary theory at all. There are many parts of evolutionary theory that have nothing to do with either survival advantage or reproductive advantage.
One day, Fuji will receive a first hand lesson in evolutionary theory.
One day he will try it on, with the wrong lady and her Neanderthal husband / brother will beat Fuji into the stone ages.
 

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What's really dumb is that I quoted you saying 'cheating is normal so it cannot wrong', so it just makes zero sense for you to deny that was your claim.
You still aren't grasping the difference between what you wrote and what I wrote. Go buy a dictionary. Come back when you've looked up the words "normal" and the word "happens" and understood the difference.
 

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One day, Fuji will receive a first hand lesson in evolutionary theory.
One day he will try it on, with the wrong lady and her Neanderthal husband / brother will beat Fuji into the stone ages.
The weak always pine for the downfall of the strong. Perhaps you're a religious man. Perhaps you're hoping that your afterlife will be better than my life.

But you're right! I should be prepared for weaker men. Guess I'll go hit the gym, do a few more bench presses, just in case.
 

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The weak always pine for the downfall of the strong. Perhaps you're a religious man. Perhaps you're hoping that your afterlife will be better than my life.

But you're right! I should be prepared for weaker men. Guess I'll go hit the gym, do a few more bench presses, just in case.
Do not flatter yourself (although that appears to be your purpose in life)
I am not a deeply religious person.
I have no aspirations of an afterlife.
And believe me, the only role model you will ever be is as a bad example

I am content knowing that, I treat those I care about with respect and they respect me for being trustworthy.

Its ironic that you view others as weak.
For my experience, its the people that cheat and deceive who are weak, emotionally and intellectually.
They do not have the inner strength required so they achieve short term goals via deceit

Go ahead , hit the gym, kiss the mirror and delude yourself some more.
Again from my experience, there is always someone , faster, stronger and tougher.
Lastly, life has a way of evening the score on self absorbed knobs, who treat others poorly
 

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Thing is JL, I treat everyone around me well. As I said, my ex GF, that I cheated on, would say that I was a positive influence in her life, despite the way the relationship ended.

You're guilty of the "halo effect" here, or since you view it negatively, "reverse halo effect". You think that because I engage in sexual cheating that I must also have other negative traits, that because I'm hypocritical in sexual relationships, that I must be hypocritical in non-sexual relationships, and so on. But I'm not. That's just your bias. I embrace sexual hypocrisy, yes, but I also invest myself heavily in the lives of the people around me. I treat everyone around me with a great deal of respect, I'm always someone they can count on, I'm trustworthy, responsible, reliable, a good listener, and a good friend.

I cheat, but as I've told you, I view that as a positive. You view it as a negative. That's your poverty--but in any case, you're wrong to make assumptions about my behavior elsewhere. In fact as I pointed out to you before I built up my career and got the position I have today by being somebody everybody feels they can trust. The role I have, organizing people globally, requires an ability to build trust relationships across cultural barriers. Apparently I'm quite good at it.

Note -- I don't care whether you believe me, but because you made up all kinds of ignorant and untrue things to say about me, I thought I should set the record straight, lest anyone believe your unfounded lies.
 

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There is no need. Regardless of whether you write happens or normal, in each instance you are referring to something that is, and thus regardless of whether you extrapolate from that claim to saying cheating is good, or cheating cannot be bad, or cheating is life affirming, in each instance you enunciate an ought claim. Any move from is to ought is illegitimate. Everyone but you, Fuji boy, can see the point and can see that you are just not intelligent enough to comprehend the point.
Right here you demonstrate that you are a mental cripple. There is a HUGE difference between saying "normal behavior cannot be bad" and saying "behavior that happens cannot be bad". Any fucking idiot can see that. Except you, perhaps. You appear to be so fundamentally stupid that you can't see the difference between those two statements.

But go ahead and desperately grasp at a few more straws. It looks good on you.
 

fuji

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That's lovely (not), it is still self-serving Horseshit on your part, and you know it!
I suspect quite a lot of the negativity coming my way over the cheating issue finds its roots in jealousy. I'm not the one who made this personal. If Johnny (or you) can't take it, don't dish it out.

Unless of course you love death more than I love life. Then help yourself.
 

fuji

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- If you are so embracing of your cheating, why don't you tell your wife, or your current boink-de-jour?
And you called me dumb.... boy, I bet you can figure this one out on your own, if you try really hard.

You embrace sexual hypocrisy as a way getting around any guilt you have for hurting people around you.
What's that saying about fairness in love and war? It's not a new concept.

By virtue of calling yourself a cheater, you cannot call yourself trustworthy... they are incompatible. And to be perfectly clear, you can call yourself trustworthy in most of your relationships, but you are not trustworthy to your wife and boink-de-jour.
Actually in almost every way I am completely trustworthy with both of those people.
 

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What part of 'normal/happens' is an is claim and 'cannot be bad' is an ought claim escapes your grasp? This part of the exchange is just making me shit my pants laughing at how ignorant you are of basic logic. You're so insecure you can't admit any error.
You need to go back and review my argument. I've given you, repeatdly, "A morality should not prescribe against who and what we are" as an assumption. I've offered you the opportunity to choose the life-denying alternative.

Given that assumption there is no naturalistic fallacy. Once you've established that cheating is normal behavior (and you offered that one up) just apply the assumption. The move from "is" to "ought" is contained in the assumption, not in the point that cheating is normal.

Get it yet, you blithering idiot?

I am convinced you're a mental cripple.
 
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