Yeah, right. Don't get so reliant on technology that you become complacent. It could screw up, or you could be driving a different car one day without switching mental gears.I discovered today that my loaner car has an active cruise control, i.e. it reduces speed if sensors indicate a slower car ahead, and it goes back to the programmed speed when the road is free (or even if you change lane to a free one).
I don't need to pay attention anymore
Car accident advice?
- Thread starter hapkido
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We'll remember that the next time you ask for input on some hottie with big tits who advertises an incredible BBBJTCIM. Why should we help you do something that is borderline illegal?I cannot believe that so many of you are giving advice on how to help this guy out!
You won't find many who are bigger advocates of safe driving than me, or people who believe that one should take responsibility for one's mistakes. But I also believe in giving people a chance to improve. hapkido has probably learned something, even more so since we have been helpful but firm without being harsh and judgmental. We not only gave him advice on what to do in court, we also advised him, nicely, to take greater care in future. Most of us feel good that we've been able to help, quit harshing our buzz.
1: As I understand it, outcalls at least are legal.We'll remember that the next time you ask for input on some hottie with big tits who advertises an incredible BBBJTCIM. Why should we help you do something that is borderline illegal?
2: Just because something is illegal does not make it wrong. Or perhaps who think harshly of those people who helped hide Anne Frank.
Looks like you missed the whole point of my reply.1: As I understand it, outcalls at least are legal.
2: Just because something is illegal does not make it wrong. Or perhaps who think harshly of those people who helped hide Anne Frank.
The point of his reply is that I should not go to a review board to ask for help reviewing a potential sex partner when there is so much more important things to discuss here like how to assist poor drivers on how to beat the system so that everybody else pays more for their insurance.
Hear me out. I'm not against the average Joe getting help from the board on how to handle bogus charges or if he has been victimized. But the OP admitted that he was guilty. He was just looking for help getting out of paying his dues. If I were in his shoes I would go to court and tell the truth and maybe get a lessor charge. If not, well I get what I deserve and it might make me think a bit more while I am behind the wheel.
This board is full of guys who all think they are smarter than Perry Mason. If a guy posts a question about a certain SP he usually gets mild replies. If he asks about the best stripper in town there is a short discussion about it. If a newby wants advice on which MP to visit or who to see there is often about a dozen or so posts helping him out.
But heaven forbid a guy gets nailed for driving 150kmh in a school zone, this board will light up with about 6 pages dedicated to how he can use any excuse in the book and how someone always has already beaten the rap and how he did it. It's amazing how many legal experts we have on TERB yet nobody seems to know how to help a guy get lucky. With so many lawyers on board you'd think one of them would be trying to get someone fucked over. That's what lawyers do best.
Hear me out. I'm not against the average Joe getting help from the board on how to handle bogus charges or if he has been victimized. But the OP admitted that he was guilty. He was just looking for help getting out of paying his dues. If I were in his shoes I would go to court and tell the truth and maybe get a lessor charge. If not, well I get what I deserve and it might make me think a bit more while I am behind the wheel.
This board is full of guys who all think they are smarter than Perry Mason. If a guy posts a question about a certain SP he usually gets mild replies. If he asks about the best stripper in town there is a short discussion about it. If a newby wants advice on which MP to visit or who to see there is often about a dozen or so posts helping him out.
But heaven forbid a guy gets nailed for driving 150kmh in a school zone, this board will light up with about 6 pages dedicated to how he can use any excuse in the book and how someone always has already beaten the rap and how he did it. It's amazing how many legal experts we have on TERB yet nobody seems to know how to help a guy get lucky. With so many lawyers on board you'd think one of them would be trying to get someone fucked over. That's what lawyers do best.
I get what you are saying in general Northerbear, but in this case I don't think the original poster necessarily confessed to any major misdeed when he started this thread.
He rearended someone, and as a long time claims adjuster I can tell you that while I have no statistics to back it up, my impression is that the majority of accidents that come across my desk are rearender's one way or the other (either hitting or being hit).
Was he careless? Yes (an accident did happen), and he'll probably like anyone who's been in an accident wonder about how much worse it could have been, and be thankful no one was hurt. At the end of the day though, even the best of drivers don't give one hundred percent of the attention that they should while driving all of the time, so really it could happen to anyone and that's why we have insurance.
As for the careless charge I wouldn't read too much into that; See my original thoughts on the accident, but basically in brief "Careless" is getting to be a more common charge as it serves as an easier to prove "blanket charge" that's intended to be plead down to a lesser charge.
He rearended someone, and as a long time claims adjuster I can tell you that while I have no statistics to back it up, my impression is that the majority of accidents that come across my desk are rearender's one way or the other (either hitting or being hit).
Was he careless? Yes (an accident did happen), and he'll probably like anyone who's been in an accident wonder about how much worse it could have been, and be thankful no one was hurt. At the end of the day though, even the best of drivers don't give one hundred percent of the attention that they should while driving all of the time, so really it could happen to anyone and that's why we have insurance.
As for the careless charge I wouldn't read too much into that; See my original thoughts on the accident, but basically in brief "Careless" is getting to be a more common charge as it serves as an easier to prove "blanket charge" that's intended to be plead down to a lesser charge.
I have to disagree with some of the comments above but only in a subtle way.
Cops like to lay careless charges because they are easy to plead down to a lesser included making their job easier. If you run into someone from behind must JP will prima facie find you guilty unless you can find some cool defense to run up the pole. It doesn't matter that the jerk in front of you hammered their brakes with epic force, you have a duty to drive far enough behind to prevent a collision if they do that.
If the accident has been reported to the police, your rates are already going up. They will have a look at the fault determination charts and find you 100% liable.
You don't want the careless on your record.
Go to the first appearance and request disclosure on the record. Then right for it.
It the crown has time at the first appearance to talk about a deal, do so. If not set a trial date, and show up and hope the witnesses do not. They will offer you a good deal on the trial date to keep things moving if nobody was hurt.
Cops like to lay careless charges because they are easy to plead down to a lesser included making their job easier. If you run into someone from behind must JP will prima facie find you guilty unless you can find some cool defense to run up the pole. It doesn't matter that the jerk in front of you hammered their brakes with epic force, you have a duty to drive far enough behind to prevent a collision if they do that.
If the accident has been reported to the police, your rates are already going up. They will have a look at the fault determination charts and find you 100% liable.
You don't want the careless on your record.
Go to the first appearance and request disclosure on the record. Then right for it.
It the crown has time at the first appearance to talk about a deal, do so. If not set a trial date, and show up and hope the witnesses do not. They will offer you a good deal on the trial date to keep things moving if nobody was hurt.
Only after he's convicted.If the accident has been reported to the police, your rates are already going up.
Actually, I did type that wrong. It should say if the accident has been reported to the insurer.Only after he's convicted.
Thanks for pointing that out.
no they are notActually, I did type that wrong. It should say if the accident has been reported to the insurer
I know a guy who had an accident that led to a careless charge; this careless was eventually dropped and his insurance stayed the same.
upon renewal his rates may go up due to him rear ending the other car. but if he has accident forgiveness then it wouldn't change anything.
Biut the most important thing is to get rid of that carless driving charge. even if you can get it lessened to a minor conviction that isnt Serious/Criminal
Biut the most important thing is to get rid of that carless driving charge. even if you can get it lessened to a minor conviction that isnt Serious/Criminal
If you rear end someone and the accident is reported to your insurer than the accident is ascribed 100% to you and thus your rates go up.no they are not
I know a guy who had a (one-car) accident that led to a careless charge; this careless was eventually dropped and his insurance stayed the same.
That is the situation we are dealing with here isn't it?
Or do I read Ont Reg 668/90 6(2) wrong?
Single vehicle would not be covered by Ont Reg 668/90 now would it?
if one is operating a car and gets into a single vehicle accident its the same as an at fault accident.
it actually was not a single vehicle as I now recallIf you rear end someone and the accident is reported to your insurer than the accident is ascribed 100% to you and thus your rates go up.
That is the situation we are dealing with here isn't it?
Or do I read Ont Reg 668/90 6(2) wrong?
Single vehicle would not be covered by Ont Reg 668/90 now would it?
I am aware of the reg you mention and I see your point but my buddy somehow got out of it unscathed
I'll ask him how he managed to do it and will post here
