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Outcalls vs. Incalls

andydude

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Looking for some input here. Ive been hobbying for a short time (first encounter was about 3 years ago in vegas). I have mainly stuck to incalls here in Toronto (too busy/tired/scared of outcalls while on business in the states) and while I love Toronto incalls (when i can get to them early afternoon before the "rush"), I have never tried an outcall (basically limited to TP and a few indy's on my TDL).

I am a bit hesitant to go the outcall route as I'm just not totally sure if the experience measures up to incalls. Are the girls as "in" to it if they are in a new environment? Any thoughts? Love to get some input.

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freestuff

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Generally outcalls are more expensive than incalls. And unless you're worried about being busted for being found in a bawdy house then I'd just stick to incalls.
 

shack

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Generally outcalls are more expensive than incalls.
By a whole $20. Less than 10%.

I only do outcalls and I think many of the ladies appreciate getting out of their assembly line place of business and being the guest instead of having to be the hostess. Being able to pamper them has gotten me (old, fat) lots of great mileage.
 

Hangman

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Being on an outcall can feel more like a date for the lady. Its also more glamorous and exciting I think, to be driven from place to place as opposed to sitting in a hotel room for the day/night.
 

MissCroft

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Being on an outcall can feel more like a date for the lady. Its also more glamorous and exciting I think, to be driven from place to place as opposed to sitting in a hotel room for the day/night.
I have to agree. I've always preferred outcalls as I feel like I'm more out 'on a date'. It's generally just more interesting for me.
 

Rockslinger

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Interesting. Are you folks talking about outcalls to a private residence or to a reputable hotel? I heard some ladies refuse to do outcalls to private residences because of the 3 guys hiding in the closet. Also, the ladies know where the icepick (Sharon Stone) is hidden at their incall but not necessarily at an outcall.
 

harryass

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I like incall, more decreet, less hassle with nosey neighbors, cleaning up my place. SPs likely more relax in their own incall place instead of a outcall with someone they have not seen.
 

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I like both, for different reasons. I like entertaining and being the host, making sure every details is perfect, and pampering my guest. But I also like being taken out on a date, meeting for drinks first, and retiring to my date's hotel room. Sex in a hotel room as a distinctive appeal to me, that little "je ne sais quoi".
 

Hangman

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I like both, for different reasons. I like entertaining and being the host, making sure every details is perfect, and pampering my guest. But I also like being taken out on a date, meeting for drinks first, and retiring to my date's hotel room. Sex in a hotel room as a distinctive appeal to me, that little "je ne sais quoi".
For my birthday you were an exquisite host, with presents all wrapped up in bows!
 

afterhours

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I only do outcalls since (in no particular order):
incalls seem to be mostly for married or greedy frugal people and I don't want to be perceived or served as such;
they are illegal;
the girls are or may be in a conveyor belt mood;
I like TOFFTing which often requires a good shot or two of scotch if the girl is not what I expected; driving home drunk is not an attractive option
I like my place and I like to entertain at my place
etc etc
 

MissCroft

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But I also like being taken out on a date, meeting for drinks first, and retiring to my date's hotel room. Sex in a hotel room as a distinctive appeal to me, that little "je ne sais quoi".
Exactly ;-) There's just something about it that seems more sensual....
 

andydude

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Ya, I just dont want to spring for a hotel when I have an apartment, but at the same time I don't want to freak the girl out or spend 25 minutes making sure she is relaxed, or go for drinks before hand (unless all i have to pay for are the drinks :) ).
 

picketfence

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I only do outcalls for a number of reasons, which can suck because some girls I would like to see only do incalls eg Lexi from Mirage.
1. I have a very nice and very unique warehouse apartment. I enjoy being in this space and the girls seam to enjoy it too.
2. I'm more relaxed here. I can take my time to get ready and just chill till she gets here-no commuting or looking for the condo and parking, which can be stressing.
3. After the session I can sit on my deck with some wine and some music and relax some more. In most cases the girl will join me for a few minutes of relaxing on the deck.

I see the whole point of seeing an sp is for relaxation. If I have to fight traffic to get back home that would kill the mood. Being able to chill and enjoy the afterglow is what it's all about for me
 

doggee_01

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outcalls to a good hotel are the only way to go ......shack's post is oh so true!!
 

afterhours

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I only do outcalls for a number of reasons, which can suck because some girls I would like to see only do incalls eg Lexi from Mirage.
1. I have a very nice and very unique warehouse apartment. I enjoy being in this space and the girls seam to enjoy it too.
2. I'm more relaxed here. I can take my time to get ready and just chill till she gets here-no commuting or looking for the condo and parking, which can be stressing.
3. After the session I can sit on my deck with some wine and some music and relax some more. In most cases the girl will join me for a few minutes of relaxing on the deck.

I see the whole point of seeing an sp is for relaxation. If I have to fight traffic to get back home that would kill the mood. Being able to chill and enjoy the afterglow is what it's all about for me
damn, man, warehouse with a deck must be awesome
on the other hand, if people with cribs like that aren't getting enough civilian pussy, there is something wrong with this society
 
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alexmst

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I've had outcalls to my house in the GTA, when I'm in the GTA.

I find the agency booking people like incalls - perhaps because it cuts down on travel time for them and the girls and makes for easier bookings of multiple people if the clients are the ones on the move.

If the girl is unreliable, outcalls are great as I don't have to worry about driving an hour each way into the city and finding out she didn't come in today after all when I appear outside the incall location. If she shows up at my house, great; if she doesn't show up, no skin off my back as I never left home, can surf Terb, have a scotch and soda, and spent nothing.

Popular girls are less likely to go for the outcall as they have to drive/be driven an hour out here, then stay for the appointment, then drive an hour to get back downtown. So they are using up three hours and getting paid for one. If at an incall they could fill the day with appointments and make more. Less popular girls don't mind the drive as it beats sitting around the unit surfing Ebay/watching TV. I find if I call for a popular girl for outcall the booker says she is booked up, but if I say OK, how about incall instead then I can get an appointment that day usually. The extra fee for outcall goes for the driver.

A lot of the girls I've seen fall into the unreliable category. I would never book an outcall to a hotel unless I happened to be in a hotel for some other reason. Why pay $250 for a top hotel room and then find out one's pre-booked apointment made two days ago is off because the girl called in to the agency to say she wasn't working today after all.

Incalls have one downside - in winter the waiting around outside the building for the agency to give one the buzz code and room number. I think a better idea is giving me the info 5-10 minutes before my appointment when I am still in my car, then I can just arrive at the building and seemlessly walk in. Standing by the curb freezing waiting for the agency to call the girl and then call me back to say I can go up is a pain. One time I had to wait outside for 10 minutes in -17C temp for the agency to call me back. Once I had to wait 35 minutes in a coffee shop. Once the booking girl told me the SP was getting the unit ready for my appointment and I saw the SP (I was a regular) walking along the sidewalk to the building to start her shift. She noticed me standing there and walked over and said 'hi - what are you doing standing here?' and I said 'I'm talking to xxx listening to her tell me how you are tidying up the condo'. So we both had a laugh at that one and went up to the empty unit together.
 

Rockslinger

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waiting around outside the building for the agency to give one the buzz code and room number. I think a better idea is giving me the info 5-10 minutes before my appointment when I am still in my car,
Agencies will never give you this info in advance because you might cross path with another client. What's worse is when you arrive at the location 5 minutes early and nobody at the agency answers the phone for 45 minutes.
 

MissCroft

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Agencies will never give you this info in advance because you might cross path with another client.
I was going to say the same thing....it's not a good idea. One time when I was having an incall at the airport a client called me a couple of hours before our date and asked me for the room number. I told him I would give it to him when he arrived but he said because he didn't have a cell phone it would be easier if I gave it to him then. So I did and he knocked on the door about 25 mins. before our appt. time. Fortunately the previous client had left but I was not at all ready. The room was a bit of a mess, I hadn't showered or fixed my makeup etc. I will not make that mistake again.

5 or 10 mins. is not unreasonable but just be sure not to knock on the SP's door before the scheduled time. We need time to prepare the room, etc. I've also given the guy the room number about 10 or 15 mins. before the scheduled time but said that I wasn't ready yet. Then they knocked on the door 5 minutes later. If you show up early you should respect the fact that the lady may still be getting ready. I mostly do outcall and if I am early I would never think of knocking on the door without first calling and asking if it's okay.
 
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